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[News] Pegasos II is here!ANN.lu
Posted on 16-Oct-2003 05:00 GMT by IamCleverToo (Edited on 2003-10-16 13:47:41 GMT by Christophe Decanini)188 comments
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Pegasos II is here! : Comment 1 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 16-Oct-2003 03:05 GMT
Cripes man!!!

Do you have to use a link wrapped inside Guardster???
Yikes!! Popups all over the place!
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 2 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by IamCleverToo on 16-Oct-2003 03:09 GMT
www.pegasosppc.com


I am beginning to hate these anonymous proxies. No.. I already hate them.
no more anonymous proxies for me :-)
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 3 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Lasse Bodilsen on 16-Oct-2003 04:12 GMT
http://pegasosppc.com/images/techspec/techspec_splashpic.jpg

:-D is this the April chip? (1 or 2)
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 4 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 05:11 GMT
LOL!! Look at the marking of this magnified IC: BB&RV-01 MOSR-ULZ.
http://www.pegasosppc.com/images/techspec/techspec_splashpic.jpg

How pathetic.
How professional....NOT!

Still no pictures of the PegasosII mainboard. Is this a so called paper launch?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 5 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Olegil on 16-Oct-2003 05:13 GMT
Don't you mean "is coming soon"?
Yes, I see that they have a spec and an "order here" button, but I do not see a product.

Nice pricing, though. Are these considered "beta" or "final product"? Has there been a beta period involving more than a couple of people/boards?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 6 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Sjoerd on 16-Oct-2003 05:24 GMT
Yeh, nice price, only 149 euro (exc VAT and shipping) for upgrade peg 1 to peg 2 1 GHz G4.
I am just wondering, I have ordered already my Peg 2 G4, I think I don't have to do it again, or.....
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 7 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Seehund on 16-Oct-2003 05:26 GMT
Is it "here" yet?

No photos, and the online store still says it's out of stock (presumably still referring to the Pegasos I).

Nice touch with the print on that kicked out April PLD! ;)
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 8 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Ron van Herk on 16-Oct-2003 05:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Sjoerd):
Hi,

These are final prices, except for the upgrade price. That one is incorrect and will be altered within the next few hours. The upgrade price is as announced earlier.

Cheers,
Ron
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 9 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 16-Oct-2003 05:40 GMT
AGP Slot?!

Does anybody know what speed it is?

/me ducks

:)

Seriously though that is GOOD GOOD pricing. Well done Genesi!
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 10 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 16-Oct-2003 05:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (IanS):
>Does anybody know what speed it is?

x1.

Thank you for participating, good bye.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 11 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 16-Oct-2003 05:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Anonymous):
LOL!! Look at the marking of this magnified IC: BB&RV-01 MOSR-ULZ.
http://www.pegasosppc.com/images/techspec/techspec_splashpic.jpg

How pathetic.
How professional....NOT!

-----------

Yeah easter eggs suck. We don't want people to have a smile on their face.
Besides that clip is 1-2 years old.. which makes it OLD NEWS
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 12 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 06:11 GMT
"it's here", but not even a picture of a (prototype) motherboard?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 13 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 16-Oct-2003 06:40 GMT
Does that price include taxes?

Dave.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 14 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Ron van Herk on 16-Oct-2003 06:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (DaveP):
Hi dave,

No all prices listed are excluding local VAT and import duties (if applicable)

Cheers,
Ron
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 15 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 16-Oct-2003 07:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Ron van Herk):
Thanks Ron.

:-)
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 16 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 16-Oct-2003 07:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (DaveP):
"(excluding taxes and shipping)"

See below "Sub Total".
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 17 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Janne on 16-Oct-2003 08:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (hooligan/dcs):
>Yeah easter eggs suck. We don't want people to have a smile on their face.

Yes, it was terrible that the original Amiga had easter-eggs all over it too! :-)
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 18 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 16-Oct-2003 08:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (hooligan/dcs):
>> Yeah easter eggs suck. We don't want people to have a smile on their face.

Well that's weird seeing as I just made a tongue in cheek comment about the agp port - and you didn't find that funny ;-)
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 19 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 16-Oct-2003 08:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (IanS):
I did find it funny. And I responded tonque in cheek.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 20 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 09:15 GMT
" The G4 provides performance at a reasonable cost providing users the experience they've come to expect from Genesi with it's low heat and power demands. "

LOL! What did I come to expect from Genesi? Did they release any products before?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 21 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 09:22 GMT
>http://www.pegasosppc.com/processor.php

So QuakeIII runs faster on a G4 1GHz then on an AthlonXP 1530 MHz?
Any system specifications please of the used computers please? Otherwise this means SH*T.

>http://www.pegasosppc.com/operating_systems.php

Funny. Amiga points to Amiga.org didn't know they produce an Amiga Operating system over there......And isn't the boingball a registered trademark?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 22 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 16-Oct-2003 09:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Anonymous):
Good going.. I know someone will eat the bate if you lure it long enough :)
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 23 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 09:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (hooligan/dcs):
Mister Hooligan/DCS...don't you have to collect some more wares and porn movies?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 24 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 16-Oct-2003 09:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Anonymous):
"LOL! What did I come to expect from Genesi? Did they release any products before?"

LOL! What kind of comment I come to expect from anonymous user?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 25 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 16-Oct-2003 09:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Anonymous):
Who says I'm not downloading pron as typing?
Waste of money to waste bandwidth, I say.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 26 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 09:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
> Funny. Amiga points to Amiga.org didn't know they produce an Amiga Operating > system over there......

Right. Correct link for AmigaOS is www.hyperion-entertainment.com
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 27 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 09:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (IamCleverToo):
> I am beginning to hate these anonymous proxies. No.. I already hate them.
no more anonymous proxies for me :-)

That would be very nice, Bill.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 28 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by IamCleverToo on 16-Oct-2003 10:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
@Anonymous (212.206.177.79)


First of all, you are anonymous. That makes you an anonymous coward full of HATE and PREJUDICE. Have a nice day. :-)


>> http://www.pegasosppc.com/processor.php

> So QuakeIII runs faster on a G4 1GHz then on an AthlonXP 1530 MHz?
Any system specifications please of the used computers please? Otherwise this means SH*T.

Get lost you x86 lover!!! :P

I disagree. I think you should blame the more efficient PowerPC RISC design (it is big endian, compared to the little endian x86 wannabe!) and the great coders who write more efficient code for the G4!

(I could be joking around here or I could be serious! You decide!)


>> http://www.pegasosppc.com/operating_systems.php

> Funny. Amiga points to Amiga.org didn't know they produce an Amiga Operating system over there......And isn't the boingball a registered trademark?

Not Funny. Stop complaining! :P

Obviously AmigaInc don't want to be linked to, which is strange. Again they are trying to hide something. I don't know.. maybe the FACTS? :P
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 29 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 10:03 GMT
A new board is released, wouldn't there have to be a new version of MorphOS with new drivers? No pictures of the board, no OS update, wrong prices on the web site. Is that the usual Genesi mess with announcements (and everything is fixed three days later) or indeed a pre-release with the actual products still in the development pipeline?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 30 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 10:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Anonymous):
This is not a church and we do not have to cheer up & praise with every new thing.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 31 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by _._ on 16-Oct-2003 10:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Anonymous):
Is not the correct AmigaOS support site http://os.amiga.com?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 32 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by --- on 16-Oct-2003 10:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (IamCleverToo):
Hey IAmHornyToo,

Facts? The facts are that Genesi doesn't have a license to port or facilitate AmigaOS on the Pegasos. Amiga is doing just what *real* Amiga users want them to do. They protect their property against pirates looking for gold outside their own backyard.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 33 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 16-Oct-2003 10:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (IamCleverToo):
Sorry to carry on with this meta-discussion.

> First of all, you are anonymous. That makes you an anonymous coward full of
> HATE and PREJUDICE. Have a nice day. :-)

You are no more or no less anonymous to me than that Anonymous.


>> So QuakeIII runs faster on a G4 1GHz then on an AthlonXP 1530 MHz?
Any system specifications please of the used computers please? Otherwise this means SH*T.
> Get lost you x86 lover!!! :P

Why so emotional? Got something to hide? You could have answered differently, intelligently and undermined his point, instead you look silly.

And to think the other day you had me looking at my posts to see if any could have possibly offended you or been seen as attacking without reason.

Next time I will wait for someone I have respect for like Hooligan, Warface or Wilse to make a statement like that before I waste time.

>I disagree. I think you should blame the more efficient PowerPC RISC design
>(it is big endian, compared to the little endian x86 wannabe!) and the great
>coders who write more efficient code for the G4!

Similar playground stuff. Again, you could have shown his comment up in a more
elegant fashion and carried the audience with you.

>(I could be joking around here or I could be serious! You decide!)
I think you don't know how to deal with comments like his, that is how it looks
to me.


>>> http://www.pegasosppc.com/operating_systems.php

>> Funny. Amiga points to Amiga.org didn't know they produce an Amiga Operating system over there......And isn't the boingball a registered trademark?

>Not Funny. Stop complaining! :P

Why? I haven't seen a satisfactory answer that does not resolve around a contractual dispute as for why this link was originally there in the first place.

> Obviously AmigaInc don't want to be linked to, which is strange. Again they
> are trying to hide something. I don't know.. maybe the FACTS? :P

Or possibly you make it up as you go along.

I can't believe I even took you seriously before more fool me.

Dave.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 34 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by No-PR on 16-Oct-2003 10:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (---):
Where is the joint IBM PR?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 35 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 16-Oct-2003 10:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
>So QuakeIII runs faster on a G4 1GHz then on an AthlonXP 1530 MHz?
Any system specifications please of the used computers please? Otherwise this means SH*T.


I'd imagine the results are from Mac version of Q3 (obviously) .. but well.. benchmarks are always benchmarks and not telling the whole truth.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 36 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by krize on 16-Oct-2003 10:31 GMT
yes !! Saving all possible money for this baby !!!
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 37 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by IamCleverToo on 16-Oct-2003 10:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Anonymous):
@Anonymous (80.133.132.26)

>> I am beginning to hate these anonymous proxies. No.. I already hate them.
no more anonymous proxies for me :-)

> That would be very nice, Bill.

That's McBill to you! :P

I am getting the impression that Fleecy Moss, DaveP, HMetal and Barry Lynden, and several of the anonymous posters are all the same person. Anyone agree?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 38 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 10:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (_._):
> Is not the correct AmigaOS support site http://os.amiga.com? Amiga.org is AmigaOS support site too.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 39 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 16-Oct-2003 11:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (_._):
> Is not the correct AmigaOS support site http://os.amiga.com?

Amiga Inc refused to be linked to. They put up a page with some stuff I don't recall that was displayed when Genesi linked to them.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 40 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 16-Oct-2003 11:09 GMT
Followed the link PegasOS-II's page looks professional.

Then you follow the buy link to the US seller: http://www.ultraspec.com/.
The appearance of their site leaves more then a little to be desired. Is this company a bulk discounted used computer hardware vendor? Blech! I tried to search for PegasOS on their site and came up blank. Do they even sell this stuff?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 41 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Ray A. Akey on 16-Oct-2003 11:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (IamCleverToo):
@IAmCleverToo:

If I was going to make a comment, I would do it as myself. So, stuff that HMetal anonymous nonsense where it belongs.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 42 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 16-Oct-2003 11:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (IamCleverToo):
Have you been drinking?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 43 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Hunt on 16-Oct-2003 11:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Anonymous):
> Still no pictures of the PegasosII mainboard. Is this a so called
> paper launch?

No. Images of the Pegasos II were not available to the Web team at the time of the Web site update. Not a real issue.

Wayne Hunt
Genesi USA
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 44 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by IamCleverToo on 16-Oct-2003 11:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (---):
@Hey IAmHornyToo,

Somewhow I think you are refering to me, correct? :-)

>> Facts? The facts are that Genesi doesn't have a license to port or facilitate AmigaOS on the Pegasos.

OS4 is based on the open source u-boot. Which is ironic, all Genesi have to do is to take the u-boot 'open source' code and compile it, basically. Maybe make a BOX that emulates the u-boot system.

Then OS4 will just boot up on that. And don't tell me that won't work, because MOL (Mac on Linux) works.

>> Amiga is doing just what *real* Amiga users want them to do. They protect their property against pirates looking for gold outside their own backyard.

?

I don't recall the current AmigaInc corp doing what *I* wanted as an Amiga developer and a potential *investor* (still waiting for the AmigaInc IPO).

(Lying, cheating, and selling out to Microsoft, and other things of that nature.)

You can't protect your IP against pirates by making everyone your enemy. Can you?

And you don't deserve to be in business if you can't deliver a few hundred t-shirts to your most loyal fans. And no, I don't want a free Pegasos t-shirt. :P I think t-shirts are a lame idea. :P

Genesi have have sent out thousands of t-shirts, shame about the ugly design :P

I'd prefer to see Genesi do other things than give out free t-shirts. Sorry. :(
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 45 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Hunt on 16-Oct-2003 11:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Seehund):
> No photos, and the online store still says it's out of stock (presumably
> still referring to the Pegasos I).

Where do you see this? It's not at the online store for http://www.pegasosppc.com/store.php.

Wayne Hunt
Genesi USA
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 46 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Hunt on 16-Oct-2003 11:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (DaveP):
Price excluding VAT and shipping
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 47 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 16-Oct-2003 11:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (IamCleverToo):
...and MorphOS is based on the open source Open Firmware, which MacOnLinux just
happens to handle so MorphOS should just boot up on that ..... right.....?

;-)

Dave "No I'm sparticus!" P
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 48 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Hunt on 16-Oct-2003 11:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Anonymous):
> Did they release any products before?

Absolutely. Pegasos I, the Superbundle, MorphOS. Take your pick.

Wayne Hunt
Genesi USA
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 49 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by IamCleverToo on 16-Oct-2003 11:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (DaveP):
@DaveP

I thought my post there was hillarious. Unfortunately, you took my post at face value and did not read the whole thing through to note the sarcasm.

For a moment there, I thought you were Fleecy. But you are someone else, aren't you? :-)
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 50 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 16-Oct-2003 11:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (IamCleverToo):
No. I am sparticus.
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