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[News] Pegasos II is here!ANN.lu
Posted on 16-Oct-2003 05:00 GMT by IamCleverToo (Edited on 2003-10-16 13:47:41 GMT by Christophe Decanini)188 comments
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Pegasos II is here! : Comment 51 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Hunt on 16-Oct-2003 11:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
>>http://www.pegasosppc.com/operating_systems.php

> Funny. Amiga points to Amiga.org didn't know they produce an Amiga
> Operating system over there......

They don't, but certainly it's a central point of information about the Amiga. One that actually gets updated anyway.

Wayne Hunt
Genesi USA
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 52 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by IamCleverToo on 16-Oct-2003 11:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (IamCleverToo):
By the way, who was it that dragged AmigaInc into this press release for the Pegasos2?

I'm sure it wasn't me. :-)
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 53 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Hunt on 16-Oct-2003 11:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (BrianK):
> Then you follow the buy link to the US seller: http://www.ultraspec.com/.
> The appearance of their site leaves more then a little to be desired.

@BrianK

Ultraspec has been a reseller of Pegasos systems for all of about 3 days. In fact, they are our newest reseller. Their Web site is being updated.

Wayne Hunt
Genesi USA
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 54 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by IamCleverToo on 16-Oct-2003 11:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (DaveP):
@DaveP (213.36.30.141)

>>> No. I am sparticus.

Et tu, Brute?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 55 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 16-Oct-2003 11:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (IamCleverToo):
I don't know. This thread should be about Pegasos, unless some idiot drags in
comparisons with other systems in which case no doubt retaliation will follow.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 56 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 16-Oct-2003 11:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (BrianK):
> BrianK :
>Is this company a bulk discounted used computer hardware vendor?

There might be a clue in the "ABOUT US" link at the VERY TOP - and in the TOP LEFT where it says "ULTRA SPEC CABLES INC" - and on the TOP RIGHT where is says "OUR 11th YEAR OF SERVING YOU WITH THE VERY FINEST CABLES MADE" - and maybe that RIGHT SIDEBAR where it says "CUSTOM CABLES ARE OUR SPECIALTY", and at the bottom of the sidebar, "CALL TODAY - 1-800-6-CABLES"

Maybe it's just me but in about .5 seconds the message was pretty much assimilated into the ol' cranium.


>I tried to search for PegasOS on their site and came up blank. Do they even sell this stuff?

This question I can take seriously.

They just came on as a reseller. Shortly they will be redoing the site to indicate this - as well as having a Canadian site that does the same.


<--greenboy---<<<<
coordinator & facilitator-at-large
Phoenix Developer Consortium [http://phinixi.com]
 
 
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 57 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Janne on 16-Oct-2003 11:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Wayne Hunt):
>> No photos, and the online store still says it's out of stock (presumably
>> still referring to the Pegasos I).
>Where do you see this? It's not at the online store for >http://www.pegasosppc.com/store.php.

http://www.pegasosppc.com/purchase.php
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 58 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by IamCleverToo on 16-Oct-2003 11:56 GMT
I am one of those people who thinks that Genesi, Pegasos and MorphOS should not be associated with 'Amiga' or AmigaInc. Any negative feelings towards AmigaInc could possibly be broadcasted onto Genesi and the Pegasos.

"AmigaInc appears to be supported by a large number of anonymous trolls."

Its true, look at all the anonymous anti-Genesi posts here by AmigaInc supporters. Then again, it could be fleecy's day job to come on here and post as several people through multiple anonymous proxies.

Sounds like a fun job, if you can get it! :-)


The ironic thing here is that the AmigaInc supporters appear to have a lot of money, paying $1000+ for an AmigaOne system. For the large amount of money they are paying to MAI, I find it difficult to see any kind of support from MAI, which is ironically headquartered in Fremont California.

And MAI is a subsidiary of FIC, one of the largest PC motherboard manufacturers in Taiwan. Now let's see that financial behemoth, who can seemly push $100 PC motherboards onto the market and make lots of profit, but can't push an AmigaOne onto the market for a fair price. Don't they want to see their PPC products become sucessful?


I think Genesi should be focusing on the fact that they have a new platform and operating created from scratch and ditch this 'we can be amiga too'.

I just wish there were more people who could stand up and also talk about this openly and honestly.

Obviously I'm not one of them. But then again, I'm just an unemployed bum with too much time on my hands. And I'm very bitter aren't I? :-)
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 59 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 16-Oct-2003 12:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Wayne Hunt):
Thanks Wayne for the useful explaination!
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 60 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 16-Oct-2003 12:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (greenboy):
See messages 53 & 59.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 61 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Hunt on 16-Oct-2003 12:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 57 (Janne):
Thank you. That was an oversight on our part and will be corrected ASAP.

Wayne Hunt
Genesi USA
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 62 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 16-Oct-2003 12:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 58 (IamCleverToo):
lol @ "fleecy's day job"
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 63 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 16-Oct-2003 12:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Wayne Hunt):
@Wayne

Carefull with the prices on website when Peg3 is launched, ok? :)
I actually went for the lower upgrade price hehee
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 64 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 16-Oct-2003 12:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 58 (IamCleverToo):
I am one of those people who thinks that Genesi, Pegasos and MorphOS should not be associated with 'Amiga' or AmigaInc. Any negative feelings towards AmigaInc could possibly be broadcasted onto Genesi and the Pegasos.
>> I'll second this purposal.

"AmigaInc appears to be supported by a large number of anonymous trolls."

Its true, look at all the anonymous anti-Genesi posts here by AmigaInc supporters. Then again, it could be fleecy's day job to come on here and post as several people through multiple anonymous proxies.
>> On an Amiga website God forbid. (That was sarcasm folks.) Just as the Mac trolls support Apple on Apple sites and AMD trolls support their systems as Linux trolls who support Slashdot. Guess the world has lots of people with lots of interests and lots of support.




The ironic thing here is that the AmigaInc supporters appear to have a lot of money, paying $1000+ for an AmigaOne system.
>> I for one am surpised to see Amiga can generate so much interest for such a high price on a system w/o an AmigaOS. I've been in the Amiga market and been bitten by the pay for us now and we'll give it to you sales pitch. It's worked sometimes and not worked sometimes. So, when Amiga comes out with a complete Amiga system I'll look and decide then if it's time to replace this A4000T. The present state of the A1 is an expensive Unix machine. I've no need for Unix and if I did the x86 market makes some good systems to run it at a fraction of the cost and with more performance. I want an AMIGA!


And MAI is a subsidiary of FIC, one of the largest PC motherboard manufacturers in Taiwan. Now let's see that financial behemoth, who can seemly push $100 PC motherboards onto the market and make lots of profit, but can't push an AmigaOne onto the market for a fair price. Don't they want to see their PPC products become sucessful?
>> I assume companies are in the business to make money so I assume they do want to see the product become successful. But, the costs to make a couple thousand versus tens or hundreds of thousands motherboards are much higher. I think they need to come down in price but I'm doubtful of a $100 PPC motherboard unless it can generate a large interest base. PegasOS is attempting to generate a large interest base by running as many OSes as possible on their system so they can sell as wide as possible. A1's focus is a much narrower market. My 2cents is they should join efforts but I think there's enough bad blood on both sides of the fence that it's doubtful that this will happen. Who knows maybe when Amiga has a PPC OS they'll look at the market and decide a PegasOS-III (or whatever # they're on by that time) port is a good idea.



I think Genesi should be focusing on the fact that they have a new platform and operating created from scratch and ditch this 'we can be amiga too'.
>> Exactly and I think from their recent actions they seem headed away from we're 'Amiga' focus that appeared to be more of their core marketing a couple of years ago.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 65 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 12:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Wayne Hunt):
> Absolutely. Pegasos I, the Superbundle, MorphOS. Take your pick.

I would love to but:

PegasosI never left Beta status and never will be -> not finished.
MorphOS is still beta ->not finished.
Superbundle is bundle with third party software and only available to betatesters....But even when that one was for sale I can't use it since they are MorphOS programs which isn't available to the public.

So no, I can't take my pick.....
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 66 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Kelly Samel on 16-Oct-2003 12:25 GMT
Nice to see you signed up a Canadiandistributor for Pegasos II. (UltraSpec Canada) :)
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 67 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Hunt on 16-Oct-2003 12:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (hooligan/dcs):
Regarding prices -- will do.

When informed of our mistake, BBRV replied that "we will honor any sales that were done under the incorrect price". So, think of it as an unofficial "early-bird" bonus. To everyone else, sorry, you missed the opportunity of a lifetime :)

Wayne Hunt
Genesi USA.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 68 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 16-Oct-2003 12:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (Anonymous):
>MorphOS is still beta ->not finished.

Tell me an OS which is?

>Superbundle is bundle with third party software and only available to betatesters....But even when that one was for sale I can't use it since they are MorphOS programs which isn't available to the public.

Get a copy from any show Pegasos is presented.. they are given for free (grab a t-shirt while you're at it :). Or register and download. Some of the software DO work on Amigas aswell.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 69 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 12:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 68 (hooligan/dcs):
>Tell me an OS which is?

At least they are out of beta stage meaning stable enough to be released and sold.

The superbundle CD itself is Genesi's product, but the software is third party, so should I be amazed of the quility of de CD itself?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 70 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Hunt on 16-Oct-2003 12:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (Anonymous):
Great attempt at trolling, but a bit inaccurate. Please, let me help you.

> PegasosI never left Beta status and never will be -> not finished.

I seem to know of a great number of people who have these boards. Interesting thought that sold systems are not finished. Mine works perfectly.

> MorphOS is still beta ->not finished.

Not exactly true, but open to interpretation. Shipping with the motherboards sold is still shipping and I see nowhere that my copy of MorphOS 1.4 says "beta". I never saw anything in AmigaOS 1.1 or 1.2 that said "beta" either.

> Superbundle is bundle with third party software and only available to
> betatesters....But even when that one was for sale I can't use it since they
> are MorphOS programs which isn't available to the public.

Absolutely 100% untrue. The Superbundle is available for download by registered Pegasos owners. It is available for purchase on CD in the online store.

I *really* don't get your "which isn't available to the public" comment except as an attempt at trolling. AmigaOS has never been "available to the public" except to run on the hardware for which it was designed. As such, how is AmigaOS (any version) ANY different than MorphOS in the context of your wannabe argument?

Wayne Hunt
Genesi USA.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 71 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 16-Oct-2003 12:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 67 (Wayne Hunt):
"When informed of our mistake, BBRV replied that "we will honor any sales that were done under the incorrect price". So, think of it as an unofficial "early-bird" bonus. To everyone else, sorry, you missed the opportunity of a lifetime :)"

I'm glad to say, that it's his (Genesi's) usual approach to problems. Very positive towards their purchasers, which is (to this extremity) is pretty rare in AmigaLand.

Nice move, again.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 72 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Hunt on 16-Oct-2003 12:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 69 (Anonymous):
> At least they are out of beta stage meaning stable enough to be released
> and sold.

By your own words, neither AmigaOS (any version), Microsoft Windows, Mac OS, Linux, nor any other Operating system has ever been out of "beta". Your comment is very vague and open to interpretation.

Wayne Hunt
Genesi USA.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 73 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Seehund on 16-Oct-2003 12:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (T_Bone):
> Amiga Inc refused to be linked to. They put up a page with some stuff I don't
> recall that was displayed when Genesi linked to them.

wget --referer=http://www.pegasosppc.com/operating_systems.php http://www.amiga.com

"Amiga-Anywhere - Invalid Referrer

Sorry, this is an invalid link. There are no contracts in place at this point
to support the Pegasos hardware platform with either AmigaOS 4.0 or AmigaDE."


"Invalid link"? Cute. :) Regarding AmigaDE + Amiga trademarks, I think it's still up to the court to decide on that.


@Wayne,
Sorry, comment #7 didn't come out quite right. I see that Janne has unscrewed my screwup now.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 74 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 16-Oct-2003 12:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Anonymous):
"A new board is released, wouldn't there have to be a new version of MorphOS with new drivers?"

No, the BIOS in the on-board ROM takes care of that.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 75 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 12:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (Wayne Hunt):
>By your own words, neither AmigaOS (any version), Microsoft Windows, Mac OS, >Linux, nor any other Operating system has ever been out of "beta". Your >comment is very vague and open to interpretation.

So you, as an Genesi employee say that MorphOS is not beta anymore?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 76 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 16-Oct-2003 12:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 69 (Anonymous):
>At least they are out of beta stage meaning stable enough to be released and sold.

My friend, have you ever used Windows ME ?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 77 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by IamCleverToo on 16-Oct-2003 12:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 67 (Wayne Hunt):
@Wayne Hunt

>>> When informed of our mistake, BBRV replied that "we will honor any sales that were done under the incorrect price". So, think of it as an unofficial "early-bird" bonus. To everyone else, sorry, you missed the opportunity of a lifetime :)

How about no 'sorry'?

How would you like it if that error in price came out of your next pay cheque? Consider yourself lucky that Bill Buck & Raquel are nice people, I'm not so forgiving. I'd deduct that mistake from the web teams next paycheques!

I'm such a meanie aren't I? :-)
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 78 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 16-Oct-2003 12:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (Don Cox):
>>"A new board is released, wouldn't there have to be a new version of MorphOS with new drivers?"

>No, the BIOS in the on-board ROM takes care of that.


Well the new NorthBridge must be supported somehow, so yes, it requires changes. And what about the new 1gb ethernet, it needs drivers aswell I think?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 79 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 16-Oct-2003 12:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 77 (IamCleverToo):
In the UK there is consumer law that sayes goods have to be sold at the price they
are advertised for, even if it was mispriced.

There was an instance of dvd players being bought for 1pound like this until the site realised its mistake. There was a whole stink about them honouring it until someone pointed out consumer law and I think they made good.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 80 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 13:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 70 (Wayne Hunt):
>Great attempt at trolling, but a bit inaccurate. Please, let me help you.
We'll see about that.

>> PegasosI never left Beta status and never will be -> not finished.
>I seem to know of a great number of people who have these boards. Interesting >thought that sold systems are not finished. Mine works perfectly.

Yeah? So your FSB is running at 133Mhz then? Does Firewire work? What about unregistered SDRAM? How does it handle 2 CPU's? How does it handle a G4 in general?
BB keeps telling that the PegasosI is a BETA tester board, and that people who buy that board know that. So either he's lying about the status, or he's wrong that all buyers know that.

>> MorphOS is still beta ->not finished.
>Not exactly true, but open to interpretation. Shipping with the motherboards >sold is still shipping and I see nowhere that my copy of MorphOS 1.4 >says "beta". I never saw anything in AmigaOS 1.1 or 1.2 that said "beta" >either.

So you're saying that MorphOS isn't beta? Does Ralph Schmidt agree with you?

I won't comment "I never saw anything in AmigaOS 1.1 or 1.2 that said "beta" either." I asume you forgot a smiley.

>Absolutely 100% untrue. The Superbundle is available for download by >registered Pegasos owners. It is available for purchase on CD in the online >store.

Oh so that users can buy MorphOS native genesi sponsored third party and already commercially available software on their Amiga? What's the point of that?

>I *really* don't get your "which isn't available to the public" comment except >as an attempt at trolling. AmigaOS has never been "available to the public" >except to run on the hardware for which it was designed. As such, how is >AmigaOS (any version) ANY different than MorphOS in the context of your >wannabe argument?

Can I buy a finished PegasosI which is NOT beta, so ready to be called a product? nope...so where do I run Not-beta-anymore-MorphOS on? And where do I use the Superbundle with?

This "wannabe" argument shows you yet another marketing ly. But hey aren't you the guy making the GEnesi's website? Ah so it's partially your ly....well, then I understand the context of your reply.
Genesi USA.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 81 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Hunt on 16-Oct-2003 13:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (Anonymous):
I, as a Genesi employee do not address anything regarding releases of MorphOS. It's not my department. I'm simply -- as an individual -- addressing the obvious attempts to troll here.

Wayne Hunt
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 82 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Hunt on 16-Oct-2003 13:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 77 (IamCleverToo):
That would have been entirely his right to do so, but the Web team was not directly responsible for the error in question. We asked to verify the prices and received information that was simply misinterpreted by everyone involved.

In any event, the error has been fixed.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 83 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 13:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 81 (Wayne Hunt):
>I, as a Genesi employee do not address anything regarding releases of MorphOS. >It's not my department. I'm simply -- as an individual -- addressing the >obvious attempts to troll here.

So it was your personall opinion as an Genesi employee?? LOL!

I, wayne hunt, declare MorphOS not beta anymore, so when it crashes at a public demo, noone can use the excuse that it's beta anymore. But sincew I don't actually know sh*t about the status, I, Wayne Hunt, can't confirm that MorphOS is not Beta anymore rendering all my previous comments that MorphOS is not beta anymore completely useless. Therefore that comment was pure trolling at a very legitime argument that MorphOS isn't a product yet, because it's still in beta.

LOL!
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 84 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 13:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Wayne Hunt):
>No. Images of the Pegasos II were not available to the Web team at the time of the Web site update. Not a real issue.

If you launch a product, I would say that is a very real issue (or you land your ass in a world of publicly voiced doubts).
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 85 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 13:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (Anonymous):
Compagnies mostly use paperlaunches when they have not met yet another deadline.
Now september became end of sembtember became 15th october became 16th october...But still no pics.....Funny! Especially when the followers of this very same compagny tends to make fun of other people who don't meet deadlines....
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 86 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 13:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (Anonymous):
> What about unregistered SDRAM? Pegasos I is the only Articia based board that can take registered SDRAM.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 87 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 13:17 GMT
Why Amiga Inc. employees are trashing this thread? If you dont like Pegasos dont buy it. Simple.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 88 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 16-Oct-2003 13:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (Anonymous):
>So your FSB is running at 133Mhz then?

No.

>Does Firewire work?

Yes.

>What about unregistered SDRAM?

Works here with a 128MB module.

>How does it handle a G4 in general?

Benchmarks have already been published. You could also test the G4 at various
shows.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 89 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 16-Oct-2003 13:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 87 (Anonymous):
If you'd like to note the only Amiga Inc. employee is HMetal and he was invoked
by IamCleverToo's spellcasting.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 90 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Hunt on 16-Oct-2003 13:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 83 (Anonymous):
It's at this point where I wield the ubiquitous phrase "have a nice day." then leave you to your own random mumbling. I don't speak troll, sorry.

Wayne Hunt
Genesi USA
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 91 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by tarbos on 16-Oct-2003 13:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (Anonymous):
>Does Firewire work? They showed a working firewire two months ago on GIGA TV. The grab of the show is online. >What about unregistered SDRAM? Works fine here.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 92 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 16-Oct-2003 13:32 GMT
Uhm. MorphOS releases, like any other releases, have beta cycles. I've
got a beta release here of MOS1.4 for example. And a public release.
When MorphOS 1.5 comes out, I'm sure it will be beta tested first,
too.

Software is never "ready". If MorphOS has the features you need, it's
ready for you. If you absolutely need something it hasn't (firewire,
3d drivers or something) then it's not ready for you. It's ready for
me.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 93 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by IamCleverToo on 16-Oct-2003 13:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 89 (DaveP):
@DaveP

" If you'd like to note the only Amiga Inc. employee is HMetal and he was invoked
by IamCleverToo's spellcasting. "

But HMetal isn't exactly an employee of AmigaInc, he is only a subcontracted webmaster.

"To be honoured by the presence of the CTO of Amiga?!?!? yes? no? maybe?"

Its nice to know that Fleecy is viewing these posts to the message boards, even if it is as an anonymous bystander. (shhh.. don't tell anyone this, but also as an anonymous poster as well! )

'Invoked by IamCleverToo's spellcasting'

You're giving me a Harry Potter complex :-) I'm so thrilled!
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 94 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 13:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (Anonymous):
> PegasosI never left Beta status and never will be -> not finished. MorphOS is still beta ->not finished

For not being finished, it's still the best Amiga product developed in the last five years. Besides, software is never finished until it's dead. The relevant question is not if the OS is finished but how good it is. Having used MorphOS for quite some time now, my advice is: Get it, try it, you won't look bad. It's the best Amigaish thing that one can buy for money right now. If you like to gamble and wait for AOS4, fine with me, but let's maintain a friendly tone here, ok?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 95 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 16-Oct-2003 13:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 90 (Wayne Hunt):
Wayne, don't feed the trolls!
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 96 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 13:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (DaveP):
>In the UK there is consumer law that sayes goods have to be sold at the price they are advertised for, even if it was mispriced.

That does not apply to online sales and not to goods advertised in flyers (it does apply to prices on goods in shops). By the way, it's an EU law, not a UK law. There were several law suits by people trying to enforce the price they saw in a web shop and all were denied. Officially, online prices are a non-binding offer, even if you click "buy", until confirmed.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 97 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 13:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (DaveP):
"In the UK there is consumer law that sayes goods have to be sold at the price they are advertised for, even if it was mispriced. "

That is pure 100% bullshit Dave.

If they advertise at a price, you place an order, then they realise they made a nmistake, they are NOT obliged to honour the price.

They can decide to honour the price from a good-will point of view, or they can inform you of the mistake and offer you the opportunity to either buy aqt the new price or cancel your order. What they can't do is force you to pay the higher price.

Of course, once they ship the goods, then they are deemed to have agreed to the contract which includes the price, so THEN and only then woudl they be obliged to honour the price.

But if they catch the error before they ship the goods, they can quite legally refuse to honour the mistake (ESPECIALLY so if it is an obvious error).

This, my dear chap, is the fact of the matter - research our laws if you refuse to believe, but that is the position - I know, it's my JOB to know.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 98 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 14:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 86 (Anonymous):
Uh??? both ways are wrong.
1) It's not the only ArticiaS based mobo that can take registered ram.
2) It's, and we're not talking about it might work on your board only, not the only one that can take unregistered SDRAM.

So wether it's a typo or not, you're wrong.
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 99 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 14:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 87 (Anonymous):
What AmigaInc employee's?
Pegasos II is here! : Comment 100 of 188ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 14:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (David Scheibler):
>>So your FSB is running at 133Mhz then?
>No.

Right, so it's not finished yet, bewcause the ArticiaS is able to run at 133Mhz. But let's continue.

>>Does Firewire work?
>Yes.

Of course, but only with the super secret Beta tester 1 only driver that noone except the core developers knew it would exist drivers right? I heard that there we're some DMA problems with it, that was of course blamed at the ArticiaS

>>What about unregistered SDRAM?
>Works here with a 128MB module.

Yes, it works for you, but the very same DIMM doesn't nessesary work on another Pegasos1.

>>How does it handle a G4 in general?
>Benchmarks have already been published. You could also test the G4 at various
>shows.

You know what I mean David. In general it doesn't work. You need to find a G4 CPU card that works with YOUR Pegasos. This very same card, doesn't nessesary work with another Pegasos. So here's another flaw.
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