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[Web] DCE: Further photos of the Pegasos II onlineANN.lu
Posted on 21-Oct-2003 12:23 GMT by Martin 'Senex' Heine (Edited on 2003-10-21 16:48:21 GMT by Christophe Decanini)63 comments
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DCE have published photos of the Pegasos II production on their website.
[Christophe - Edit to use mirror link]
The pictures have been mirrored here.
DCE: Further photos of the Pegasos II online : Comment 51 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 22-Oct-2003 07:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Anonymous):
and statisticalli 100% are satisfied with two ball and a stick. Both male and female.

You butterfly lovers should learn some marketing lessons, in particular the "power of the brand(tm)".
DCE: Further photos of the Pegasos II online : Comment 52 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 22-Oct-2003 08:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Anonymous):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Statistically, 50% are even more satisfied with two balls. It's a true fact.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

As opposed to an untrue fact? :-D
DCE: Further photos of the Pegasos II online : Comment 53 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by miksuh on 22-Oct-2003 11:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Anonymous):
Probably mostly the same 600 users
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Posted by miksuh on 22-Oct-2003 11:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (itix):
Every A1200 accelerator do not have different connector, because they all connect to A1200 CPU-slot :)
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Posted by BrianK on 22-Oct-2003 13:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (gary_c):
">NewOS -- Apple planned just like PegasOS.
I don't think so..."
*** Their webpage seems to say otherwise.
http://newos.sourceforge.net/features.php
Planned Ports
PPC based machines - G3/G4 Macs, generic PPC boards


"I haven't seen anything about an OpenBeOS port for Macs. Do you have a URL?"
***Sure check out their mainpage http://www.openbeos.org and I clipped the section again but you can look for platform.
What platform(s) is the OpenBeOS targeted to run on?
R1 will be x86 only. Compatibility with other hardware platforms mostly depends on porting the kernel and writing the drivers. Much of the rest of the OS can simply be recompiled for any new platforms.
Besides x86, Travis has NewOS running on Dreamcast (Hitachi SH-4) with planned ports for:
iMac -- G3-/G4-based Apple products.
***and some more listed such as Amiga 3000 but doesn't list generic PPC or Pegasos.


"But they are listed on the Genesi site because they are either done, in progress, or planned to begin shortly. "
*** Yup and as I stated before the list the person asked what supported OSes were there for the Apple system besides MacOSX and to make things easy I just compared the state of the Pegasos list with the current state of their availability for the Mac. The point wasn't to say they weren't in a state aas Genesi claims. The point was the person asked for Supported OSes and my belief is those OSes for the Pegasos will probably be supported in a similar fashion to their current support for the Mac platform. Which is not always similar to the way Apple supports MacOSX but is a type of support none the less.


"You're looking in the wrong places, apparently. "
***I did do a quick look on their respective websites. I'm sure a more exhaustive search, such as mailing and news groups for each OS, may turn up some more info. It's really not my place I'm trusting Genesi is getting all those OSes as marketed. Don't get me wrong ports could be going on but it appears that then not all OS groups are staying current with website updates.


Well, as a startup Genesi is hungrier that Apple...
*** Don't get me wrong I'm all for Genesi supporting multiple OSes. I just don't see a 5,000 user count enough to warrant enough head count to support the 14 different listed OSes the way Apple support MacOSX. The point of the conversation is what is "support".


***Genesi receiving AmigaOS port better then Apple may be the case. However, the way things are now it appears that Apple and MorphOS and perhaps Genesi are pretty hostile to each other. I hope Genesi do well with their Gladiateur game.
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Posted by BrianK on 22-Oct-2003 13:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Amon_Re):
AOS4 on the Mac near impossible?

How are the...NewOS, OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBeOS, and LinuxPPC getting their job done? I'm sure Amiga/Hyperion could learn in a similar fashion and/or interface with those groups for some pointers.
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Posted by BrianK on 22-Oct-2003 13:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Olegil):
Thanks for the rephrase it makes what you were trying to say clearer.

While there are other OSes available for the Mac and in production for the Mac there isn't good info on how the Apple chipsets work. However, since there are other OSes it doesn't mean it can't be done. Also, Amiga and Morphos could interface with those teams who've done a alternative OS for the Mac and I'm sure those teams would be happy to share the info. Heck the LinuxPPC sources are public so they may be useful for hints of how things had to be done.

IBM is extremely helpful towards Linux. There were rumors that IBM was going to make their own G5 boxes to push LinuxPPC. We'll see if that happens. If it does happen I'd love to see Amiga and MorphOS do ports for the IBM released G5. Even if they're only 32bit ports for the time being.
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Posted by tokai on 22-Oct-2003 15:24 GMT
look this link, was posted to IRC: http://www.bplan-gmbh.de/gfx/pegasos2.jpg

the original pegasos(0) looks a bit like an AmigaONE, or?
DCE: Further photos of the Pegasos II online : Comment 59 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 22-Oct-2003 19:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (BrianK):
Ok, it's technicly possible, sure, they could delve trough the various opensource os'es for pointers & all, but i don't think it'll happen.

Why? Those open source projects are done by people who do this for a hobby, it would make more sence then to adopt MOL to run AOS4 then actually do it natively (speaking in terms of time/cost) then a true native port.

A MOL approuch also eliminates drivers as such, just support the "MOL" hardware & MOL itself will do the rest, this is possible, but that brings up another problem, the licence, You'd need a modified MOL & a dongle for it, but since MOL is opensource, you'd have to make the modified one also opensource, leaving the dongle code to be easilly commented out, *unless* the dongle protection resides on the AOS4 side, but still, with MOL it would be easy to analyse an USB (eg) dongle's function (not that this can't be done already in other ways, but i disgress), so again, no banana.

I would love a macport of AOS4, i would get me a TiBook on the spot if it were possible, but alas, i doubt it will ever happen.

Cheers
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Posted by Banana_Republic on 22-Oct-2003 23:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 59 (Amon_Re):
Such an action may constitute the breaking of related DRM laws.
DCE: Further photos of the Pegasos II online : Comment 61 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by Banana_Republic on 22-Oct-2003 23:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 60 (Banana_Republic):
I meant DMCA*(and similar laws) not DRM.
PS; dependant on the country you live in).
DCE: Further photos of the Pegasos II online : Comment 62 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by Xisp on 23-Oct-2003 13:21 GMT
>Posted by Ferry (80.58.36.235) on 21-Oct-2003 17:37:33
>
>Please, see this image:
>
>http://pegasosppc.com/images.php?f=image&id=891
>
>There are four conectors in the right bottom corner of the board. Two of them >are IDE channels (you can see even the missing pin in the centre of each one). >One of remaining two, on the right side, is nearly sure for disk drive, but >then, what's the use of last one?
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>Posted by Hagge (213.112.194.50) on 22-Oct-2003 07:40:34
>In Reply to Comment 26:
>"what's the use of last one?"
>
>it's for connecting pc-speaker, power-led and so on.
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ehem... I have read in other forum that it is a debug connector, I don't think
it has anything to do with leds, reset button, etc...
DCE: Further photos of the Pegasos II online : Comment 63 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 23-Oct-2003 18:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (Xisp):
You're both right. The plug has debug lines included, but it is properly the front-panel connector, including the power-switch plug, reset button, LED, USB, etc.
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