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[Files] Bug in PowerIcons - warningANN.lu
Posted on 21-Oct-2003 15:11 GMT by Elena Novaretti15 comments
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A bug in PowerIcons 1.0/1.01 has been found. Nobody cames to the light perfect :) I'm working to fix it soon. Using icon.library < 45.10 causes PowerIcons to show alignment problems with default icons. That's not really a PowerIcons bug, rather a stupid code used by pre-45.10 icon.library when returning from the idenfitying hook. For now please use icon.library 45.10 (OS 3.9 BB2). I'm working to fix it, so wait for release 1.02 on Aminet. .&
Bug in PowerIcons - warning : Comment 1 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Pentrite on 21-Oct-2003 13:31 GMT
That's what I call a good developer :-)
Bug in PowerIcons - warning : Comment 2 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 21-Oct-2003 13:47 GMT
I admit it; I spotted this bug, but I didn't get around to reporting it because i'm lazy... HOWEVER, I mostly use the CLI, so it doesn't bother me too much at the moment. Looking forward to the fix, though!
Bug in PowerIcons - warning : Comment 3 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-Oct-2003 13:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Peter Gordon):
Thats what I call a bad user :-P

(only kidding!)
Bug in PowerIcons - warning : Comment 4 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by bbrockie on 21-Oct-2003 14:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
<Humor>
Thats what I call a bad comment :-P
</Humor>
Bug in PowerIcons - warning : Comment 5 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by IamCleverToo on 21-Oct-2003 15:00 GMT
SIGH... Elena is such a sweetie. I must admit to having a massive crush on her. SIGH....
Bug in PowerIcons - warning : Comment 6 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by another one on 21-Oct-2003 16:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (IamCleverToo):
You're not alone *sigh*
Bug in PowerIcons - warning : Comment 7 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Felix on 21-Oct-2003 19:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Pentrite):
Ohh, in that case, you know that program i created in 1996 and the other one in 1998 and that other one in 2001, it all has many bugs, i will fix it asap :))) heheh

The one saying this is a bad developper, you suck!

Bye,
Felix.
Bug in PowerIcons - warning : Comment 8 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Me Too on 21-Oct-2003 22:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (another one):
Elena, elena, where for art thou.....
Bug in PowerIcons - warning : Comment 9 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by miksuh on 22-Oct-2003 10:18 GMT
I hope that some changes are made to PowerIcons:

1) That icondrag arrow should not be shown when you just click/doubleclick the icon. Now you can see it when you click the icons and that's irritating.

2) There really should be other ways to show active icon. Changing colors to eg. lighter bluish looks really ugly with many icons. it really does not look good. Darkening the icon would be much better. Best would be if there would be optional glow in the active icons. Similar to Glowicons, but in 24bit. Eg. blue 24bit glow would like good. Even better would be if there could be 2 frames in thge icon, one for inactive and one for active icon. if icon format does not support alternative frame, then change the icon format.

3) It would be good if Powericons would generate icon with less colors when you try to drag the icon. If you can't drag the 24bit icon then you could use that generated icon. With current powericons it shows just an arrow which is't under the mouse pointer. There is nothing undr the mouse pointer, and that looks and feels weird.
Bug in PowerIcons - warning : Comment 10 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by miksuh on 22-Oct-2003 10:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (miksuh):
"Eg. blue 24bit glow would like good." == "Eg. blue 24bit glow would look good."
Bug in PowerIcons - warning : Comment 11 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 22-Oct-2003 13:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (miksuh):
@miksuh

> 2) There really should be other ways to show active icon. Changing colors
> to eg. lighter bluish looks really ugly with many icons. it really does not
> look good. Darkening the icon would be much better. Best would be if there
> would be optional glow in the active icons. Similar to Glowicons, but in
> 24bit. Eg. blue 24bit glow would like good. Even better would be if there
> could be 2 frames in thge icon, one for inactive and one for active icon. if
> icon format does not support alternative frame, then change the icon format.

Argh, no! That would make any number of icon sets unusable without modification.

The "selected icon" image could be user selectable through a prefs program. It could be lightened or darkened according to preference (some icons and backgrounds would look better with lightened icons, some with darkened ones). If glow is to be added the best way to do so would be to render it directly to screen, perhaps allowing the parameters and colour of the glow to be selectable through the prefs program again.

The last thing anyone needs is another custom icon format no one else uses.

> 3) It would be good if Powericons would generate icon with less colors when
> you try to drag the icon. If you can't drag the 24bit icon then you could use
> that generated icon. With current powericons it shows just an arrow which is't
> under the mouse pointer. There is nothing undr the mouse pointer, and that
> looks and feels weird.

Well, I suspect this is done to conserve CPU load. Perhaps a transparent oulined icon could replace the original while being moved? Failing that, a two or four colour substiture would do the job. Again, perhaps this would be selectable from the prefs according to the CPU power available.

Still, PowerIcons is a considerable improvement on anything that AmigaOS has available before it.
Bug in PowerIcons - warning : Comment 12 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by StAn on 22-Oct-2003 15:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Bill Hoggett):
Reducing a picture from 24 bits to 256 or less colours is not a really trivial task. It could probably be done easily though, if the reduction is of bad quality, by simply using a 3-3-2 bits pixel format to create a 256 colours paletted picture.
Bug in PowerIcons - warning : Comment 13 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 22-Oct-2003 16:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (StAn):
1. unchanged palette
find the best color whit out changing the palette, dither the images!

2. stupid
Well no I done this, the quality becomes extremely bad whit your suggestion, a better way is to analyze the picture to find the most color component whit the biggest delta values,

3. simple
sum the delta red + delta green + delta blue, and calculate the number of bits per color component, this method makes it some what better, now dither the image.

4. complex
the best way is to collect colors from the image in table, if the number of color becomes grater then the number of colors you can use, the try again whit less accuracy

red & FE, green & 0xFE, blue & 0xFE
>256 than try again
red & FC, green & 0xFC, blue & 0xFC
>256 than try again
red & F8, green & 0xF8, blue & 0xF8

now you have a new palette, try render the image, by finding the closes colors you can find, and dither the image.

number 1,2 and 3 reacquires the GUI, background and icons to be refreshed whit a minimum of 3 seconds intervals when changes are made, strange color flashes may happen from time to time, unless you double buffer the desktop
Bug in PowerIcons - warning : Comment 14 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 22-Oct-2003 22:09 GMT
Personally I don't see what's wrong with OS3.5-style glowicons, do you really need 24-bit colour for an icon!!? They are slow enough in 256 colours on my system, I would hate to think how slow they would be in 24-bit...
Bug in PowerIcons - warning : Comment 15 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 22-Oct-2003 23:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
> Personally I don't see what's wrong with OS3.5-style glowicons,

Well, some people like the default AmigaOS 3.1 look, but that doesn't make it any less ugly.

> do you really need 24-bit colour for an icon!!?

You do if you're bothered about the aesthetics of your desktop. It also makes promoting the OS when showing off screenshots a bit more effective.

> They are slow enough in 256 colours on my system, I would hate to think how
> slow they would be in 24-bit...

That does indicate you have a slow system. Time to upgrade?
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