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[Rant] Whither Sendo?ANN.lu
Posted on 22-Oct-2003 05:48 GMT by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz15 comments
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Again from The Register, Sendo's unveiled the Symbian-based Sendo X. Looks better than the ill-fated Z100. No word on partnerships of interest, but Symbian comes with its own Java environment.
Whither Sendo? : Comment 1 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Anon on 22-Oct-2003 03:51 GMT
Does Amiga Inc have any customers selling DE-ready and included hardware?
Whither Sendo? : Comment 2 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 22-Oct-2003 05:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anon):
No.
Whither Sendo? : Comment 3 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Anon on 22-Oct-2003 05:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Lando):
None, at all? So if I develop software for DE, who can use it other than party pack developers? I was looking in to this as a project, but theres not much incentive to get involved. :(

Are there any planned devices in the works that might be DE-enabled out of the box?
Whither Sendo? : Comment 4 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Anon on 22-Oct-2003 06:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anon):
What about Intent-2? Would I be better off looking into Intent-2?
Whither Sendo? : Comment 5 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 22-Oct-2003 06:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anon):
As far as I know, if you develop DE software then it can run on Windows or Linux if the user first pays for and downloads the player software from amiga-anywhere.com (although amiga-anywhere.com isn't working at the moment so I can't check on the price).

And, I believe, you can ask Amiga Inc to publish and distribute (through their Microsoft partnership) the software, and they will put it on a gamepak so that Windows CE handhelds can run it.

If you do decide to develop for AmigaDE, then you should be aware that competition is stiff - "Amiga has over 3,000 developers creating applications for the new AmigaDE." according to AmigaInc. This is probably 10 developers for each user.
Whither Sendo? : Comment 6 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Anon on 22-Oct-2003 06:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Lando):
Does Amiga Inc provide statistics as to how many end users have the ability to run DE software? ie: how many DE player sales have there been?

Is there somewhere I could look for this info? Amiga's site is a little sparse on info. I can find Intent-2 info all over the place.
Whither Sendo? : Comment 7 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 22-Oct-2003 07:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Anon):
I don't think they make that information public. I would suggest emailing Gary Peake (Amiga Developer Support) at gpeake@amiga.com with your questions, I'm sure he'll be able to help.
Whither Sendo? : Comment 8 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 22-Oct-2003 10:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anon):
yes. Microsoft.
Whither Sendo? : Comment 9 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 22-Oct-2003 10:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (priest):
+ I mean that the currently shipping pocketPC PDA's are capable of running AmigaAnywhere and it's games. (available for example on M$ online shops)
Whither Sendo? : Comment 10 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 22-Oct-2003 11:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anon):
If you're interested in developing on smaller platforms (cell phone, handheld) then you could do a lot worse than looking at Java. You may already own a device that you can run finished software on (a warm glowing feeling is the result) or if you don't you can pick one up cheaply. There are thriving indy communities for this stuff, and lots of people out there ready to say "Wow, this is great" to people who make cool toys or useful apps.
Whither Sendo? : Comment 11 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 22-Oct-2003 12:22 GMT
leave it to ANN moderators to post a news item (even if not Amiga related) as a rant
Whither Sendo? : Comment 12 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 22-Oct-2003 18:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Anonymous):
> leave it to ANN moderators to post a news item (even if not Amiga related)
> as a rant

Heh, I just noticed that. Anyhow, it wasn't my intention... I still think the DE concept has a lot of technical promise, but this shows its toehold being loosened by yet another "good enough" solution.

More specifically, AInc. can still negotiate with the carriers to come along as "added value" (in an even more perfect world, everyone's smartphone would just take software downloaded from conventional websites; some do, some don't), which was part of the plan, but that's a heck of a lot more work and takes a heck of a lot more resources than just landing on a device from the get-go. Assuming DE work is ongoing, the final release /really/ has to be as compelling as, say, Netscape or OpenGL was if consumers have to make a conscious choice to install it, an even more uphill battle now that open standards and sources reign.

Ironically, this is also a case where they've been sucker-punched to some degree by Microsoft's screwing around. They never set themselves up to be /really/ dependent there, but when Sendo gave up that road, their Plan B removed the need for third-party Java, one of the main niches in the near-term for Intent/DE.

At least Sony's found a use/benefit from Tao's stuff in their own internal development. (That "CoCoon" series of high-end entertainment gear; if there have been newer design wins lately, I've missed 'em.)
Whither Sendo? : Comment 13 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by strobe on 23-Oct-2003 02:18 GMT
I still don't know why Amiga users even care about this stuff.
Whither Sendo? : Comment 14 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 23-Oct-2003 04:14 GMT
Couldn't they have come up with a better name than the "X"?

Why does every damned product name these days have to begin with X or Z? :)

=Neko=
Whither Sendo? : Comment 15 of 15ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 26-Oct-2003 09:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Neko):
It's eXtra c00l ;-)
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