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Pegasos-Italia : Comment 51 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 03:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (bbrv):
>Can you see 680x0? No?

>If not, it is not "Amiga" ...

By your decision? So my PPC accelerated Amiga 4000 that makes absolutely no use of the 68k processor is not an Amiga? You can try and twist the truth as much as you want but only your blindest followers will believe you and with them, you don't really need to do anything else than show your ass and they will kiss it.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 52 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 04:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (bbrv):
still avoiding the question. Just admit it, you have no clue.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 53 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 09:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (bbrv):
LOL! And what about all the Amigaones then? Ah...if you experience no DMA bug then you're just lucky right?

Only Itix shared his "experience" with the DMA bug lately, but he turned out to be a Pegasos owner.


Now tell me billy, do you blame the bug of checksum erros when writing large files to CD on the Articia as well? Or is it Trance this time?


And what about all the lucky AmigaOne G4 owners while you have to find a G4<-> Articia match in order to make it to work.

Oh and the AmigaOne FSB is running happily @ 133Mhz..Explain that Billy boy.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 54 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 09:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (bbrv):
> Can you see 680x0? No?

> If not, it is not "Amiga" ...

LOL! Now Bill McEwen and Fleecy got flamed by telling the community that it's not the hardware that defines the Amiga but the elegant Operating system.

Now Billy-Liar-Boy declared that it's an amiga when it's got a 680x0 CPU.
Geezs, so MAC and Atari users have been using an Amiga afterall!! Don't even mention all the embedded systems.....

There are billion Amiga's sold!!

Just another day when by and another stupid comment from Billy Boy.
Maybe you should only promite the Pegasos and shut up about thing you don't know anything about......"Amiga" for example.....
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 55 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 09:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Anonymous):
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?forum=13&topic_id=1095&post_id=22333&viewmode=thread&order=0#22333

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?forum=13&topic_id=1095&post_id=22351&viewmode=thread&order=0#22351
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 56 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 09:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (bbrv):
>Well, thought we would check back in a couple hours to check the pulse and it >is still about the same. Maybe one or two anonymous whiners thinking that >name calling is going to save the cult. Good luck!

Stop the press!!! Billy-liar-Boy is keep a Resist-O-Meter. If he does only get a couple of critical comments on a PEgasos news item then he's confident that the Amiga Community swallows YALOMT(C)*

*Yet Another Lie Or Marketing Trick

Patent number:
US5490209 Personas and method for twisting reallity and lying to the Amiga Community in order to become Amiga. This is summarized as "A concept" (1996-02-06)
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 57 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 09:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Anonymous):
>http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?forum=13&topic_id=1095&post_id=22333&viewmode=thread&order=0#22333

"
There must have been a numberous of things that went wrong. I really had problems compiling kernels and other well tested sources as well as running other hungry applications.
Previous post mentioned that I thought I fixed it. I was running 2.4.19 again at the time. It turned out that the computer still crashed, just not as easily (during big compiles). I guess I have had RAM, heat and then kernel problems. After I upgraded to 2.4.22 things became real stable. I upgraded after seeing that "-- MARK --" was the last entry in /var/log/messages (had a less watching it during crash (with a shift-f)).
I've had the system crash once (a regular system crash (X related I think) - not a freeze) and messages says ide controller is reset once in a while, but overall it looks like it runs (over 24hrs now with about 4hrs of compiles).
Anyone else seen the ide reset thing... Any suggestions?"

Most impartant sentense: "I guess I have had RAM, heat and then kernel problems."

So someone is struggling with his Linux setup...What is strange about that?
This kernel update made I huge difference

>http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?>forum=13&topic_id=1095&post_id=22351&viewmode=thread&order=0#22351

"I found that a lot of my stability problems with Linux were due to unstable versions of software. Since I installed Debian Stable off the net, things have gone quite well, although at the moment I am still running the A1 with an FSB of 100MHz."

Due to unstable programs.....Installed Debian again...Stability increased...but hasn't set the FSB to 133MHz yet....

Let me guess you read the post as "I can't run it with a FSB higher then 100MHz"
Wishfull thinking mate....;-)
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 58 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 02-Nov-2003 12:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (Anonymous):
>By your decision? So my PPC accelerated Amiga 4000 that makes absolutely no use of the 68k processor is not an Amiga?

Sounds like you're using MorphOS

(Well, it does need 0x0 on startup, as will AOS4, but that's not a big deal)
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 59 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 02-Nov-2003 13:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (Anonymous):
OhNo Onno! Scheffers that is!

Better stick to your motorcycles and please do not disable IDE=NoDMA from bootargs and use DMA because it won't work on your machine.

Feel free to contact onno about his malicious online behavior. He has left a trial on the internet a mile wide.

R&B
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 60 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Bodie on 02-Nov-2003 13:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 59 (bbrv):
My A1 is running fine with DMA enabled bbrv ;)
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 61 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 02-Nov-2003 13:34 GMT
Wait! Stop the Presses! Anonymous 67.75.24.49?!

Luca!

Start studying more! :-)

R&B
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 62 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 02-Nov-2003 13:41 GMT
OK, you ask for it. Here it is:

The following problem is given with the current Articia S versions:

The CPU interface fails to make all needed PCI to Memory transactions transparent to the CPU. This leads to failed (missed) snoop responses from the CPU in case of a modified cache line. The result may be a data corruption. The problem can be verified by creating a huge DMA load to the system.

1) Create a Linux partition with reiserfs using the IDE channel
2) Create a Linux partition with reiserfs using a 1394 (firewire) drive
3) Create any Linux partition (any device possible)
4) Enable DMA for IDE using 'hdparm'
5) Copy some data ~1-2GB using 1) and 2)
6) unmount 1)+2)
7) run the 'reiserfsck' tool using an endless shell script for 1)+2)
8) Start a ftp of a huge file (>memory+swap) using 3) and calculate a checksum for that file using a endless shell script

Be sure that the L2 cache of the CPU is enabled during your tests. Watch the results.

Required Resources
1 – Red Hat Linux Distribution 7.x
2 – IDE Hard Drives
1 – PCI Firewire Card
1 – 1394 Firewire Drive

Notes:
Line 1) - One IDE Drive for the O/S
Line 2) - Needs PCI Firewire Card, 1394 Firewire Card and SW Drivers for same
Line 3) - Configure partition on additional IDE Drive

Requires 2 weeks minimum full time effort (probably 3 weeks) for someone with advanced Linux configuration setup and test expertise.

Sincerely,
R&B
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 63 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by gary_c on 02-Nov-2003 14:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Bill Hoggett):
Bill Hoggett wrote:
>I can accept you don't need me. I can also see you don't need customers. Are you relying on finding enough worshipful sycophants who will buy into your "concept" without being told what you're selling them to make money for you?

I think maybe you're not seeing the forest for the trees. What is Genesi's "concept"? If you've read the various things bbrv have posted relating to potential markets, and are aware of what the Genesi products themselves offer, then I think it's apparent that there isn't necessarily "a concept" that wraps all of it up. Some customers will buy for one reason, some for another. Statements that "MorphOS is a concept" are, I think, a) calculated to push the hot buttons of certain individuals, and b) made to suggest that MorphOS symbolizes the idea of trying to push the platform forward wherever possible.

> What is damn hard to explain? It's a simple question: WHAT IS THIS CONCEPT OF YOURS?
> You're a marketing person. You have a whole army of promoters in your ranks. Can't one of you explain in plain comprehensive English what this concept of yours stands for and why it offers a revolutionary solution compared to everything else on the market?

Personally, I think it's still evolving. Like a chemical reaction, the outcome depends not only on the initial ingredients but also the environment and reactants therein.

> Should I just assume that every time I ask the question you will laugh and run away?

You seem a bit wound up about this. You know Bill Buck (or is it bbrv?) enjoys the encounter if you continue to supply him with irresistable material.

> Or do you only have time for the Blue Cheerleader brigade?

This kind of insulting characterization has long since gotten very tiresome. If you are requesting rational responses, I suggest you also communicate on a civil level.

-- gary_c
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 64 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 02-Nov-2003 17:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (bbrv):
This "so called "problem is the direct result of the Articia S's ability to handle memory access by the CPU and PCI bus.

This behavior reduces latency but is unknown in the Wintel world which is why the Linux drivers don't cater for it.

In the Wintel world either the CPU or the PCI busmaster is allowed to write to memory, not both at the same time.

MAI has been reworking the Linux drivers to cope with this and Hyperion has been aware of this feature for quite some time and has taken it into account when doing DMA capable drivers for the AmigaOne hardware.

It is nice to see Genesi finally putting their cards on the table after close to a easy of rumor mongering so their ignorance can be exposed.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 65 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 02-Nov-2003 17:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
Excuse us Ben?!

Rumor mongering? You had better clean up your own act first!

Here is a short list of problems:

1. Articia S is sensitive to RAM, known to work with Kinston ValueRam 128 MB PC 100 Reg. ECC CL2 one.
2. Articia S PCI bus to Memory transfer / CPU to Memory transfer “Master Do Loop” problem
3. Articia S infinite loop “Halt” problem (requires reset, typically halts in about 5 minutes).
4. Articia S Data Corruption Problem

You want to explain how you are going to handle them? In Linux, with OS4?

We think you just stepped into a big pile of poop.

R&B
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 66 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 02-Nov-2003 17:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
It ain't a bug it's a feature......

Now, where did I hear that line before ?
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 67 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by X-Ray a Key on 02-Nov-2003 17:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 54 (Anonymous):
STFU Ray!
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 68 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 17:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
echo "max_kb_per_request:15" > /proc/ide/hda/settings
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 69 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 02-Nov-2003 18:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 67 (X-Ray a Key):
That is Onno, not Ray. ;-)
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 70 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 02-Nov-2003 18:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Anonymous):
> Only Itix shared his "experience" with the DMA bug lately, but he turned out to be a Pegasos owner. Yup. A Pegasos owner without an April fix.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 71 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 18:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 70 (itix):
Hi mister Itix. You pretended to be an amigaONE owner. And AmigaONE != Pegasos without April.
The AmigaONE uses the latest bugfixed Articia revision while the Pegasos uses the bugged one.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 72 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 18:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (bbrv):
>Here is a short list of problems:

>1. Articia S is sensitive to RAM, known to work with Kinston ValueRam 128 MB PC 100 Reg. ECC CL2 one.

Excuse me Billy-Liar-Boy.
As the ArticiaS is a northbride for embedded systems it wasn't designed to be a northbridge able to drive several Memory modules with connectors. The "weak" busdrivers aren't up to all the capacity introduced by that many memory ICs and the DIMM connectors. Therefore some single slot, less IC, non-registered memory configurations work.
If you create more load you have to buffer the bus. That's why you need registered memory if you wan't to use a DIMM reliable or more then one DIMM. I thought that your engineers were able to tell you that.

>2. Articia S PCI bus to Memory transfer / CPU to Memory transfer “Master Do >Loop” problem
>3. Articia S infinite loop “Halt” problem (requires reset, typically halts in >about 5 minutes).
>4. Articia S Data Corruption Problem

Please read Ben's post again...but this time try to understand what he's saying.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 73 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 02-Nov-2003 18:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (gary_c):
@gary_c

I'm sorry if you feel insulted, Gary. That wasn't my intention. However, thre is no doubt that the amount of "promotional" noise coming out of the blue camp far exceeds the amount of substantive information supplied from the same quarter.

Your reply hasn't really changed anything in that respect. I'm afraid it sounded like something Fleecy's Amiga Inc Press Release Dept would be proud of. The concept is that there isn't any one concept? It means different things to different people? WTF?

How is that different from every other OS/system out there? How is it better? What does it do better? It's no good saying everyone must decide for themselves what the concept is when you start talking about people who must be persuaded to look at it in the first place. The Real World (tm) is not made up of people who will buy a Pegasos just because it has an Amiga connection or because they were given one for free. The Real World is made up people who will have to be asked to choose a Pegasos or MorphOS INSTEAD of something else. You're going to need more than sentimentality and abstract conceptualisation to get them to open their wallets for you.

I genuinely tried to get some substantive answers. Since there has been a marked absence of such I will simply have to draw the obvious conclusion.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 74 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 18:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
Doesn't sound good if you need two years to implement a hardware feature of
your own chipset in an OS that runs on your own hardware then. Seems those 30
engineers aren't worth their money.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 75 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 18:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (Anonymous):
Yet another "it's not a bug but a feature' then. I wonder how many other
features MAI implemented nobody else knows about.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 76 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 02-Nov-2003 18:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 73 (Bill Hoggett):
Hi Bill, from your perspective you are absolutely right. You have defined the problem and as such your conclusion is valid. When we are ready to deal with people like you we will make sure we are ready to answer the kind of questions you are asking. In the meanwhile, this was a thread about a Pegasos website in Italy. What is the role you are trying to play? Why do you feel what you have to say is so important that you need to comment on a thread you clearly have no interest in? Why are you wasting your time?
R&B
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 77 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 02-Nov-2003 19:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Bill Hoggett):
@Bill Hoggett

"Or do you only have time for the Blue Cheerleader brigade?"


Bill Hoggett (not to be confused with Farmer Hoggett, the movie for details), what is your big issue? I thought you were some kind of former Amiga developer? If so what are you doing now?
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 78 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 02-Nov-2003 19:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 71 (Anonymous):
> Hi mister Itix. You pretended to be an amigaONE owner. Did I? > The AmigaONE uses the latest bugfixed Articia revision while the Pegasos uses the bugged one. I hope the next Linux kernel for AmigaOne solves current problems.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 79 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 02-Nov-2003 19:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (Anonymous):
Really Onno?! (Anonymous 217.120.208.92) We thought what we were discussing was the northbridge for your AmigaOne. Maybe *you* better think a little harder. And, BTW, if you ever want peace in this community just stick to your own business and avoid the personal attacks. This thread took a wrong turn from the start because another anonymous poster made a statement about this thread on this site and all things Amiga. Fortunately, the owner of the site weighed in and cleared that up, but we are still stuck with folks like you who are too cowardly to even put your name on your posts.
R&B
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 80 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 02-Nov-2003 19:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 76 (bbrv):
@bbrv

It's my time to use as I want, and I don't see a problem with asking the question in this thread. If you can use it to promote your marketing motto, why can't I use it to ask pertinent qustions?

You haven't been appointed moderator at ANN while I wasn't looking, have you?
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 81 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 02-Nov-2003 19:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 77 (Darth_X):
@Darth_X

> Bill Hoggett (not to be confused with Farmer Hoggett, the movie for details),
> what is your big issue?

Big issue? My big issues have nothing to do with this scene really. However, I'm one of those annoying people who don't think in a particular way just because someone tells us we should. I like to make my own mind up about things, and in order to do so I need information. It may come as a shock to you, but one way to get information is to ask questions, specially questions about issues which you are not given voluntary information about. When someone makes a statement which makes no sense to me, I ask questions about it. Please forgive me if you find such behaviour offensive.

I find it ironic that both blue and red camps act in the same defensive way as soon as anyone starts probing for the substance behind the glitter.

> I thought you were some kind of former Amiga developer?

Former developer, yes. Amiga, no.

> If so what are you doing now?

I'd tell you if I thought it was relevant, but it isn't. Consider me just an ordinary punter.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 82 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2003 20:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (bbrv):
Who?
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 83 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 02-Nov-2003 20:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 81 (Bill Hoggett):
Bill, you are suffering from delusions of importance. We are not obligated to answer any of your questions. Besides, you are just a old grumpy man with an axe to grind. You do not care about MorphOS or the Pegasos. You said it. So, why is it everytime we turn around you are here to poop on the party. There is no other explination. Why don't you do something constructive for the Community?

Tell you what! We will retain your services to write us the plan you are so insistent on having?! That would be a win-win situation! Come Bill, can you do it? Name your price!

R&B
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 84 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 02-Nov-2003 21:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 83 (bbrv):
@bbrv

> Bill, you are suffering from delusions of importance.

Me? No, like I said I'm just an ordinary punter. Are you suffering from delusions of intelligence?

> We are not obligated to answer any of your questions.

No, you're not. Then again, you have no right to stop me asking them. I know it will come as a shock to you, but you don't own the community (for all your attempts to buy everyone in sight) nor do you own the public forums. That's why they are PUBLIC, you know?

> Besides, you are just a old grumpy man with an axe to grind.

...and you're just some guy with a liking for the stuff in the drinks cabinet, but I won't hold that against you. Have we exchanged enough personal insults, do you think?

> You do not care about MorphOS or the Pegasos. You said it.

Care? Care?!?

What's with the sentimental cr*p? I am asking substantial questions because I'm interested. How am I supposed to know if something is worth paying attention to if nothing of note is known about it?

But care?? Why should I "care"? I don't work for you, so I don't "care" what happens to Pegasos, MorphOS, Genesi or you. I do want to know what it's all about though, and it's not your place to decide who should be paying attention to what you say in public or not.

> So, why is it everytime we turn around you are here to poop on the party.
> There is no other explination. Why don't you do something constructive
> for the Community?

No explanation for wanting substantive answers? You're seriously delusional if you think anyone asking questions is just trying to "poop on your party". This isn't YOUR party anyway, so anyone has total rights to question anything you say in public. If you don't like it, take a leaf out of the Frieden's book and take your toys home.

> Tell you what! We will retain your services to write us the plan you are
> so insistent on having?! That would be a win-win situation! Come Bill,
> can you do it? Name your price!

No, I can't do it. Do you know why? Because I have no idea what your concept is about! There is no material to work with. If you haven't got a clue what your products stand for, and why any of them should have any worth beyond a tiny minority of hobbyists, how the heck should I know?

You're the professional, as you keep reminding us. So, since I'm just a punter, your challenge is simple: you persuade me that I want a Pegasos or MorphOS.

So you're baiting me. Fine, I can live with that and your insults. However, there are others reading your posts here who are not necessarily decided whether to buy into your vision or not. I'll let you work out what they will be making of your replies.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 85 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 02-Nov-2003 22:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (Bill Hoggett):
@Bill Hogget:

In your hurry to knock down bbrv's gracious (yet, sarcastic) offer of
employment, you missed one very simple point: you don't have to know what our
concept is about to accept the offer! We would be essentially (sarcastically) hiring you to rewrite our goals into something you'd personally buy.

Then, of course, you buy a Pegasos, which will bring our total combined world
sales to 1 for the forseeable future, when it turns out nobody in the "Real
World" likes your idea. We will then spiral into bankruptcy in a flurry of
lawsuits, with only a handful of rabid ex-customers and employees to back us
up, just like other "companies" who did the same tactic ;)

The Genesi concept is this: we're gonna sell to real people as soon as we
got something to sell to real people. At that time, we will be able to tell
real people why they would want one. Until then, what's the point of expending
all our time convincing real people when all they'd say is "great, so where
do I buy one?"

At the moment, only a bunch of rabid Amigans, Linux geeks, and the rare band
of dedicated followers of Ralph, would actually want one, because they are the
only people who will piss their pants with excitement at a bunch of numbers on
a screen.

(You'll find out in a couple of weeks exactly what we're selling and making
and who we're selling and making them with. Maybe our plan won't stink so much
then, in your opinion? :))

As and when we are selling, and they can walk away with a physical product
perhaps even from a real shop store with windows and shelves, instead of just
a shipping note then it is time to put it out to "Real People", and not just
the overexcited pale-skin brigade. And I don't mean Wicca and Slipknot fans.

Or maybe you'll just continue to stick your oar in on issues that you freely
admit don't concern you, or shit on the things we do that don't even matter to
you?

Your choice, I guess. Happy Post-Post-Halloween!

=Neko=
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 86 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by porneL on 02-Nov-2003 22:27 GMT
That thread is horrible. Bunch of old, well known flames and insults, insults... on both "sides"! Stop that!

"Insult" each other by having way better hardware and operating systems :P
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 87 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Nov-2003 02:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Neko):
>you don't have to know what our concept is about to accept the offer!

Not if you're a brainwashed troll. If I want a short term job I might not care about the concept but if I have to invest myself into a career I better know everything about the company before I sign any contract. Then again I'm not a brainwashed troll...
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 88 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Nov-2003 07:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (bbrv):
> We thought what we were discussing was the northbridge for your AmigaOne. Maybe *you* better think a little harder.

Erm.....That IS the northbridge...you know...the northbridge had these things called output buffers....Every data and address and controll line has one....If they are not strong enough they cannot cope with the capacitive load and thus messing up your signal. What's more obvious then that?

Your comment shows that you should stick with the commercial site of your "concept". Because you don't know anything about hardware but the name and cost of the ICs.
I'n a little disappointed that you didn't even consult your engineers....And if you did.....good luck with your PegasosII you're gonna need it.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 89 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Nov-2003 07:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (Bill Hoggett):
Bill,
BB just read another management book and it said that you need a lot of one liners and slogans for people to remember your product. Wether they hold the truth is irrelevant.
What about these ones:

"There's is no Mai without April".
"Terrasoft will crash and burn".
and so on...

and the latest:
"Morph is more than an OS -- it is a concept"


No one knows what the concept is. GEnesi employee's and blue cheerleaders say that it obvious and if you had payed attention, you should know it already. But nobody wants to repeate it to us, "ignorant" people.
So this game of avoiding the quetion could be a two way strategy: Hope that this question will (again) blead to death, or they are buying time in order to come up with a nice "concept" and publish it on ANN and other forums.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 90 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 03-Nov-2003 08:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (Anonymous):
"That IS the northbridge...you know...the northbridge had these things called output buffers....Every data and address and controll line has one....If they are not strong enough they cannot cope with the capacitive load and thus messing up your signal. What's more obvious then that?"

I wonder if MAI have any plans to make a version with heavier duty output drivers.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 91 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 03-Nov-2003 09:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Neko):
So you want Bill Hoggett to tell you what your value proposition is?

Who would want to work for an employer that makes a "gracious but sarcastic" offer?

Get a sense of proportion man.

Hey Bill H, you'd better accept his offer, it being so gracious and all and with the rest of us merely being beggars and knaves.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 92 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 03-Nov-2003 09:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 91 (DaveP):
Oh and Bill, before you accept the job offer, find out whether you are going to get paid in real money, with full employer requirements ( for the UK ) and employment conditions met ( and of course corporation tax paid ) or in motherboards and profit-share promises.

I am amazed that there is a job description that actually is paying that is called "Director of giving a straight answer to a straight question".
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 93 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymouse cowretard on 03-Nov-2003 09:57 GMT
[Back on track]
Hmmmm... this site is obviously in first position to win the LAMEST-SITE-IN-THE-WORLD award[tm]...
This dumb fscker just took the pages on pegasosppc.com as his silly browser displayed it (originally they were even written in php!), translated them and put a sh*tty .htm extension at the end!!
L-A-M-E-R !! There are no other words to define this stoopid cunt0r!!
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 94 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Nov-2003 09:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 92 (DaveP):
are you talking of amiga inc here?
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 95 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Nov-2003 10:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 92 (DaveP):
Ehm, every single person employeed by Genesi is paid normally, as any other employee of any other company so far... Unlike some other company...
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 96 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 03-Nov-2003 11:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 94 (Anonymous):
chortle, guffaw etc.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 97 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 03-Nov-2003 11:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (bbrv):
Well, this is getting intresting.

Cheers
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 98 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 03-Nov-2003 11:26 GMT
" I agree, MorphOS is a very nice Amiga-like, OS 3.x Amiga-compatible operating system, but I would disagree that it is the "natural" upgrade path. "

Yes agree.

Anyway, very nice job Miky060, impressive webdesign.
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 99 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 03-Nov-2003 11:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 83 (bbrv):
BBRV, you've been quite jumpy lately here on ANN, quite frankly, it seems asif you want to bully some peple out of the community, but you know, you can't predict how people will react to some of your posts.

Your reaction to Ben Herman's post eg, it sounded like a kid having a temper tandrum.

Or saying that Bill Hogget is having delusions of "grandeur", or questioning my background, and so on & on & on...

you won't shut any of us up by acting like that, and in fact, you drag the fine team of people that work for you through the mud with you every time you go off on another flaming spree.

Would I ever want to work for or with someone like you? hell no.

having said that, your description of the ArticiaS "problem" was welcome, and i'm sure it's being tested at this very moment by members of the community, but as Ben Hermans said, Mai is aware of these issue's and they are solving them.

I've not visited michelle's site, wich is actually the topic of the thread, i don't need to visit it, but i do wish him the best of luck with his bussinness.

My advice to you BBRV, would be to think twice before clicking "add comment", before you blow a bloodvessel.

Now, that being said, when can we expect a review of the Pegasos II? It's November now, surely we should be seeing a review soon now?

Oh, and another question, how are the talks between you, those resellers & that licence coming along? It's funny, but it's awfully silent about those things lately.

Well then, that's it from me, i'll gladly await your awnsers, but i won't hold my breath

Cheers
Pegasos-Italia : Comment 100 of 181ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 03-Nov-2003 11:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 99 (Amon_Re):
When I get told to get lost, I tend to stick around more. ;-) In fact, the flamebait that Targhan posted at the top "THE ( notice emphasis ) natural upgrade for Amiga...", the trademark dilution tactics etc just basically get right up my nose and make me want to contribute to a topic that I would have otherwise thought "interesting, but not relevant to me time to read something else".

So "fine team" think before you post.
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