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[News] RJ Michal assumes evaluation role for GenesiANN.lu
Posted on 08-Nov-2003 16:04 GMT by Nate Downes85 comments
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Genesi today announced that RJ Mical will assume an evaluation role for Genesi. RJ Mical was a co-inventor of the Atari Lynx handheld game system and the 3DO entertainment console, and was also head of software engineering at Ericsson Red Jade. Most recently, RJ has been the Chief Architect for the Fathammer mobile game engine and continues today to serve as a Director. RJ will be making a full assessment of the Pegasos and MorphOS and prepare a plan to assist Genesi to move the Pegasos into the world of mobile devices.

RJ will be meeting with Pegasos and MorphOS Developers and Users this coming week in Helsinki. He will be in Finland on Fathammer business.
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Posted by Lando on 08-Nov-2003 15:31 GMT
"RJ Mical was a co-inventor of the Atari Lynx handheld game system and the 3DO entertainment console"

Not to mention his involvement in the creation of the Amiga - Intuition!

Great to see him working with Genesi.
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Posted by ece on 08-Nov-2003 15:31 GMT
I´d like to quote Jay Miner:

"RJ Mical pretty much did it all himself. He was holed up for three weeks (!) and came out once to ask Carl Sassenrath about message ports. That's it, really! He wrote Intuition and went on to do the graphics package, Graphicraft, as no one else could do it right."

You can´t argue with that man, really you can´t.
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Posted by smithy on 08-Nov-2003 15:41 GMT
It's great news that Genesi is getting lots of the old & experienced people involved - what exactly will his "evaluation" role be?
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Posted by Nate Downes on 08-Nov-2003 15:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (smithy):
If you read the article:
"RJ will be making a full assessment of the Pegasos and MorphOS and prepare a plan to assist Genesi to move the Pegasos into the world of mobile devices."
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Posted by Darth_X on 08-Nov-2003 15:51 GMT
RJ Michal is a really cool guy! I hope I get to meet him some day.

Inventor of the Handy and the "DOH DOH DOH!!!" platform ;)
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Posted by minator on 08-Nov-2003 16:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Darth_X):
He's worked on a lot of really cool stuff.

Sounds like the perfect guy to get on board.
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Posted by tinman on 08-Nov-2003 16:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Nate Downes):
1) Get Pegasos/MOS from Genesi
2) Poke at it for a bit
3) Figure out whether it's worth porting their engine to MOS

I'd like to be less skeptical (sp?) but I am in(capable|ebriated).
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Posted by Leif on 08-Nov-2003 17:23 GMT
"Assume an evaluation role" :-)
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Posted by Eva on 08-Nov-2003 19:04 GMT
This is the right start to show to some people that the Amiga spirit is not ths AmigaTm trademark.
Rj is one of the father of the real Amiga and now is joining a team that is working to continue the Amiga spirit in a manner a bit better than AmigaInc.
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Posted by Kjetil on 08-Nov-2003 19:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Eva):
No I'm shore MOS has more of the Atari spirit? Just kidding.

The spirit of the platform has more about users
using the platform the the platform it self,
being creative having the tools and the community.

I think the close ties between the developers and the users,
is a bit unique on the AmigaOS/MoprhOS forums compared to others.
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Posted by Kjetil on 08-Nov-2003 19:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Leif):
<Assume an evaluation role>

Talking about Eva-luation, she has really changed, she stooped bashing out in public, and the commons made become more sensitive and interesting
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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Nov-2003 20:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Eva):
oh, gaud. whew. ah. Thanks for that! I was laughing so hard I almost fell out of my chair... Damn your funny... Keep up the good work.
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Posted by Leif on 08-Nov-2003 20:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Kjetil):
Yes, with fries please.
:)

Anyway, I just thought it sounded very funny.
Or put differently,

There could have some kind of thinking process,
pherhaps leaning towards the direction of judgement
regarding the level of funniness, in favour of YES.

Leif
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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Nov-2003 22:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Anonymous):
@Anonymous (130.94.107.149)
>> In Reply to Comment 9:
>> oh, gaud. whew. ah. Thanks for that! I was laughing so hard I almost
>> fell out of my chair... Damn your funny... Keep up the good work.

I'm trying to guess who this anonymous person is. Any more hints? :-)
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Posted by JoannaK on 09-Nov-2003 00:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (smithy):
Smithy: I'll have to ask this when I'll see him IRL. If things go vell it'll be next saturday.

Anyhow. It's interesting to see what he'll have to say. Even listening those old stories from A1000 making woudl be great but I'd also be interested what's he been doing on Fathammer (Finnish company) ... Not to mention this Pegasos connection.
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Posted by EyeAm on 09-Nov-2003 00:50 GMT
Walks out onto the stage, and stands behind the lone table under the spotlight.

Places three walnut shell halves onto the table--one marked Genesi, one marked Amiga, Inc., and one marked SomeOtherBrand.

Holds up a tiny Boing Ball for the audience to see. It is marked "Amiga's Future". Places tiny Boing Ball under one of the shell halves, and mixes all three halves very quickly, around and around, in and out, looping and doing the figure-8.

Lifts up the Genesi half: nothing.

Lifts up the SomeOtherBrand half: nothing.

Lifts up the Amiga, Inc. half: everything. :-)

--EyeAm
http://s87767106.onlinehome.us
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Posted by bbrv on 09-Nov-2003 01:53 GMT
...and we thought we were talking about a Checkmark!?!?!?
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Posted by EyeAm on 09-Nov-2003 02:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (bbrv):
No, more like a large red "X" (w/buzzing sound).

Try again...
"I'll take 'What's missing from this picture?' for $200, Alex."

--EyeAm
http://s87767106.onlinehome.us
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Posted by EyeAm on 09-Nov-2003 02:51 GMT
"Personally speaking, I don't plan on killing the Amiga. In fact, if they
ask me to take over system development, you'll see one killer Amiga!"
- Carl Sassenrath, Former director of Software for VISCorp.
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Posted by Anonymous on 09-Nov-2003 04:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
What? you need hints! You don't know?
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Posted by Anonymous on 09-Nov-2003 10:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (bbrv):
Well, you never did have much of a clue what this whole thing was all about ;)
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Posted by John on 09-Nov-2003 10:28 GMT
Maybe Genesi should start doing some scams, ripping of Amiga users seems to be the only way a Amiga company can get respect these days.
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Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 09-Nov-2003 11:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (EyeAm):
The future of Amiga Inc. is everything? LOL! Wanna bet?
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Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 09-Nov-2003 11:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Genesi, Hyperion, Eyetech, etc. are the ones with a future here... Forget Amiga
Inc... the only thing that could save them is a miracle...
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Posted by Ben Yoris on 09-Nov-2003 11:51 GMT
Good thing to know.

Actually I've set up a team full of old Amiga talents. The company name's Dream On Studio. We develop games on handheld devices and so far only on GBA.

The problem of the GBA : its business model. A company like mine is obliged to work with a publisher who has enough money to contract with Nintendo about the manufacturing of the VERY expensives cartridges. At the end of the day, Dream On Studio earns only a fraction of the business money and its efforts are not very well payed.
The reason ? We can't sell our products freely and must do the games of other people (the publishers) with Nintendo taking money on it.

What's a millions users market worth if developers can't have the real fruits of their efforts ?

The solution : an open mobile device, on which developers are free to develop and sell their product, with or without a
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Posted by Ben Yoris on 09-Nov-2003 12:01 GMT
Good thing to know.

Actually I've set up a team full of old Amiga talents. The company name's Dream On Studio. We develop games on handheld devices and so far only on GBA.

The problem of the GBA : its business model. A company like mine is obliged to work with a publisher who has enough money to contract with Nintendo about the manufacturing of the VERY expensives cartridges. At the end of the day, Dream On Studio earns only a fraction of the business money and its efforts are not very well payed.
The reason ? We can't sell our products freely and must do the games of other people (the publishers) with Nintendo taking money on it.

What's a millions users market worth if developers can't have the real fruits of their efforts ?

The solution : an open mobile device, on which developers are free to develop and sell their product, with or without a medium to encapsule software (soft can be sold via the internet with reasonnable solutions to avoid pirating).

A handheld device with the efficency an elegance potential of AmigaOS/Morphos would be something great. Have a look on TapWare new device called Zodiac. Definitely way to go...

Dream On Studio in its form or another will be ready for suh an opportunity with an "Amiga" connection (I already forgot about the DE...)

Have a nice sunday !
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Posted by Kjetil on 09-Nov-2003 12:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Ben Yoris):
I think AROS is more realistic as PDA I might be wrong.
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Posted by Ben Yoris on 09-Nov-2003 12:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Kjetil):
Maybe ! Anything elegant and fast would be great.
THE Amiga spirit could survive into these handheld devices.
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Posted by Kjetil on 09-Nov-2003 12:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Ben Yoris):
It where unlike that AmigaOS4.0 will run on anything other then PPC, mostly due to x number of lines of optimized PPC assembler code i the new exec kernel, so to make AmigaOS an PDA system, we need to find a PPC CPU that can be used for PDA's,

So I started snooping around the net and found this link:

<http://news.com.com/2100-1001-274324.html?tag=nl>

The IBM PowerPC 405LP, some thing like that might help it, the problem whit PDA is small displays running Amiga OS as it will not be dabble, mostly due to the size of gadgets and window frames, AmigaOS is about 12mb so you put in on flash-disk whit no problem, the biggest challenge for AmigaOS4.0 as PDA system is the memory usage, mostly due to the JIT.

I might expect some similar problems for MOS,

the biggest problem about AmigaDE is that it has zero Amiga recognition,

If we look at WindowsCE we find that there is not one WindowsCE it one for PowerPC, Alfa, HP etc. So in other words the target market becomes where small, It's not where realistic.
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Posted by Kronos on 09-Nov-2003 13:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Kjetil):
Screen-space can be safed by using specialy adapted MUI-skins, and a slighly
modified Ambient. MorphOS can run without any 68k-emu, aslong as you don't
plan to use old 3rd-party SW.

Not sure if and how that could be reached with OS4 in the near future.
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Posted by itix on 09-Nov-2003 13:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Kjetil):
If JIT is eating too much RAM why not disable it? 68k software run pretty well without JIT.
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Posted by EyeAm on 09-Nov-2003 14:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
>In Reply to Comment 17:
>Well, you never did have much of a clue what this whole thing was all
>about ;)

I've had more than a clue. :-)

R.J. Mical on board the competition to Amiga. That one is a riot. I'm still laughing. :D Good luck to you guys, but I prefer Amiga. I don't even care if Carl Sassenrath joins up with Genesi, or the others do. I know that in the end, the 'name' is required, and certain people over there are going to begrudgingly know it before long. Now, if my prognostication here makes them rebel and not want the name, GREAT! :D Good riddance. But I know where the path is for Amiga, and it's with AMIGA.

If Genesi have success with MorphOS and Pegasos and other products and OSes, good. That's what Amiga was about. I know well about it not being about a name, insofar as the passion and dedication and creativity go. That was never lost on me. In fact, I do exactly that with my own operating system efforts. But there are some who prefer Amiga (like I do) and know its path (like I do), that just don't care about Genesi/MorphOS, no matter what 'names' they attach :)

Those 'names' should be working with Amiga, Inc. But hey, R.J. Mical working with Genesi? No different from 3D0 or the other companies he's worked at. See what I mean?

You're close. Now just get them all under the Amiga, Inc. umbrella.

If you think Amiga, Inc. is dead, I'll remind you of the phoenix who rose from ASHES. ;-P

I'll also remind you of deception/lies (if not fraud) perpetrated in the past which ultimately resulted in the AMIGA OS and AMIGA machines.

I'll stay on the side of the AMIGA name. I'm against Genesi. The products, who knows...maybe they would make a nice addition to the AMIGA family of products.

--EyeAm (not an Amigan, since April 2001)
http://s87767106.onlinehome.us
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Posted by EyeAm on 09-Nov-2003 14:18 GMT
Oh yeah, forgot this:

Good to see that all of my suggestions that I made on Amiga.org (for Amiga) are being used (by Genesi) :-) How *ever* could I go against that, eh? (waves to Wayne)

--EyeAm
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Posted by greenboy on 09-Nov-2003 14:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (EyeAm):
>"Personally speaking, I don't plan on killing the Amiga. In fact, if they
ask me to take over system development, you'll see one killer Amiga!"
- Carl Sassenrath, Former director of Software for VISCorp.

REBOL for MorphOS - http://www.morphos-news.de/index.php?lg=en&nid=541&si=1

We are also talking with Carl about extending the REBOL addition to the MorphOS SDK mentioned in the article, to a cross-OS package for all the operating systems that are or will be running on the Pegasos, and supporting this with another Developer Connection site under the Phoenix umbrella.

But perhaps this is another news item, working with Carl Sassenrath ;  }
 
  
<--greenboy---<<<<
coordinator & facilitator-at-large
Phoenix Developer Consortium [http://phinixi.com]
 
 
 
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Posted by Doctor on 09-Nov-2003 14:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (EyeAm):
Can you tell us what kind of dope or pills you take so we all know what to
avoid to not end as a total nutcase like you ?
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Posted by Eva on 09-Nov-2003 15:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (EyeAm):
This answer shows clearly who are AmigaInc and company supporters.
Snobbing the fathers of the AmigaOs is really something absurd ... but ... after all we have in Mos team a some new skilled consultans and we can only be happy!
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Posted by Kjetil on 09-Nov-2003 15:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (EyeAm):
sound like allot of contradiction to me, can you clean up the comment so we can understand, really confusing part is about the name thing.
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Posted by Kronos on 09-Nov-2003 15:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Kjetil):
Somehow I thought that YOU would be the only one who
could make some sense out of that mess ......
;)
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Posted by EyeAm on 09-Nov-2003 15:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Eva):
No, no "snobbing" at all. :)

We'll see what they produce. It'll be interesting. I'm sure they will create something MARVELOUS--far exceeding that which they ridiculed and didn't help out over the years, eh? Maybe they will create an elite OS that has no bugs and errors and NONE of the problems they griped at Amiga, Inc. for having. ;-) (grin)

Bring on the perfect OS. (but I don't want it)

--EyeAm
http://s87767106.onlinehome.us
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Posted by Kjetil on 09-Nov-2003 15:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Eva):
Whats the use of having the craters of Atari when your trying to target the Amiga market, I can't Se the relieves in that or way it should even trigger an reaction from the AmigaOS camp.
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Posted by EyeAm on 09-Nov-2003 15:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (greenboy):
>In Reply to Comment 19:
>REBOL for MorphOS - http://www.morphos-news.de/index.php?lg=en&nid=541&si=1

Amiga has REBOL, too.

>We are also talking with Carl about extending the REBOL addition to the
>MorphOS SDK mentioned in the article, to a cross-OS package for all the
>operating systems that are or will be running on the Pegasos, and
>supporting this with another Developer Connection site under the
>Phoenix umbrella.

Great.

>But perhaps this is another news item, working with Carl Sassenrath ; }

Perhaps another spam item, yes. :) Blanket the AMIGA-related message forums and utilizing AMIGA-notables to promote the...oh wait, it's not AMIGA OS.

--EyeAm
"Only AMIGA Makes It Possible" ;-P
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Posted by greenboy on 09-Nov-2003 16:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (EyeAm):
>>REBOL for MorphOS - http://www.morphos-news.de/index.php?lg=en&nid=541&si=1

>Amiga has REBOL, too.

We are not talking of "having" an old version of REBOL. We are talking of making it more central to our work, putting it in the hands of MorphOS and other alternative-OS developers. This in turn gives REBOL Technologies a reason to be involved as a PARTNER, to increase the scope of REBOL development, dovetailing it in with products and projects.


>>But perhaps this is another news item, working with Carl Sassenrath ; }

>Perhaps another spam item, yes. :) Blanket the AMIGA-related message forums and utilizing AMIGA-notables to promote the...oh wait, it's not AMIGA OS.

Dig it: Carl and RJ just don't CARE about the name of the Amiga. They don't care about working with companies that can't afford T-shirts. They care about seeing their ideas go out into the world. They care about financial prospects. They are willig to RISK (that's what they have always done) - but they know that those who risk always do better when they choose partners who can afford to assemble talent, ideas, with some of those partners making products.

These are not Amiga notables promoting something - these are Amiga notables who are interested in BUILDING something, just as they have always been. That takes some realistic weighing of the odds, and some complementary assets when selecting partners and sharing business plans.

...I might also repeat what just about any moderator of any site I've ever posted on in the old neighborhood has said, about their sites supporting AROS, MorphOS, etc news and discussion. But I won't. Even most of the dullest minds realize what these moderators and site owners have said. I'll note however that they haven't yet discouraged people from mentioning non-existent not-even-started 64-bit OSes, though their relevance is perhaps illusory at best ;  }
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Posted by EyeAm on 09-Nov-2003 16:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Kjetil):
Well, it is true that there is something to be said about the 'forefathers' of Amiga working again on an OS or computer hardware--especially, when working together with one another, once again.

It's kind of like a band...say, The Eagles, or The Beatles, or whatever your favorite happens to be which created a lot of landmark songs in their career. They break up, get new members, maybe even all of the members get replaced, and original members go off on their own to do things. Those who go off to create things elsewhere, may really create good songs by themselves, or with others. And, the law of probabilities must include the instances where the individuals wind up creating something BETTER than what was created with the original members. But, even so, it still won't be the original, or have the same flavor.

Regarding Amiga, it's a sad thing Jay Miner passed away. The original team can now *never* be collected together again. All you've got is the legacy he left, if that can be remembered. At the same time, a few other things have changed--and I believe Miner was more hardware than software. The realitiy with the hardware itself has changed over the years...to where HE probably wouldn't even approach things the same way (but who can say but him).

Also in the mix: "Amiga, Inc.", before the incarnation of December 1999 / January 2000, never pursued the path for long, before coming under the care of Commodore, and becoming "Commodore-Amiga". So, in truth, and so far, about the only thing we know of the original entity is monetary problems and a very unique dream (one that manifested through parent companies--nearly all of which declared bankruptcy). It sounds tragic, but if those monetary problems are faced and defeated, then what? :) I mean, for the original entity, reborn in January 2000.

Refresher, http://s87767106.onlinehome.us/fox/EpicPoems/prelude.html

Maybe there is some sleight of hand going on, maybe there isn't. I tend to think Genesi and Amiga will merge somehow. Maybe goes like this: Genesi obtains the venture capital, the past Amiga luminaries, builds up a decent business plan and gets things out the door and then picks up the Amiga name, morphing into a company that couldn't have gotten that same venture capital due to either reputation or distrust or whatever. OR, maybe like this: Genesi gets sued to oblivion and those once supporting it have to gravitate back to Amiga. OR, perhaps it 1983 joysticks all over again ;-)

They can't really want Amiga dead, now can they? After all, they're using Amiga. The products are catering to Amigans. The products work with Amiga OS and software. It's Amiga this and Amiga that, and if Amiga died (again), well...how would they sell their stuff? "Well, that company is gone now, and while our products can aid you in so many new ways, we can also let you run your old Amiga programs."??

Cutting through the B.S., there are just some things that are unresolved and need resolution between those with the gripes and Amiga, Inc. Whatever it is, some people are not getting what they want, or are not happy with the way things are. Some of it may be vindictive, some of it may be a 'no choice' matter, some of it may be the 'better idea' or 'better way' position; or combination. BUT...it's definitely still alive and kicking, and far from over. :) Birth pangs. Evolution.

This is one time I say: just let the chips fly, and the wind whip up into a very strong gale. Whatever is left standing is meant to be.

I wonder...Is Genesi going to pursue x86/64, or stick with PPC?
How would things change if Amiga, Inc. announced a brand new OS effort, which has nothing to do with what Hyperion is doing for them?

--EyeAm
http://s87767106.onlinehome.us
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Posted by samface on 09-Nov-2003 17:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (greenboy):
I don't mind people spreading propaganda about their prefered alternative and I don't mind people criticizing alternatives they don't prefer. However, when it comes to patronizing comments that are nowhere near constructive, keep them to yourself or your private club of like minded people. I mean, we all know by now what you are going to achieve by stating it in here, now don't we?
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Posted by EyeAm on 09-Nov-2003 17:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (greenboy):
>I'll note however that they haven't yet discouraged people from mentioning
>non-existent not-even-started 64-bit OSes, though their relevance is
>perhaps illusory at best ; }

And they even let fired hotel employees from Montana post, I bet.

It's clear you were regarding my operating system there, but only with the most fallacious remarks conceived from vapid ignorance. :-P But mine is merely a hobby os. It exists, and was started in 2001. Relevant? Only insofar as ANN is obviously supportive of multiple OSes. Amiga compatible? I've actually talked with Amiga, Inc. about it already. But you should read the FAQ to satiate any unlikely and doubtful, piqued curiosities that you might have.

:) You're one of the reasons I don't support your side. (Neko and Wayne are two more).

--EyeAm
http://s87767106.onlinehome.us
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Posted by samface on 09-Nov-2003 17:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (EyeAm):
>It's clear you were regarding my operating system there,

...or AmigaOS5.
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Posted by bbrv on 09-Nov-2003 17:22 GMT
(EyeAm) Self Description:

Me: I consider myself to be kind, respectful, conservative (in my own way), courteous, thoughtful, practical, prophetic, artistic, talented (though not as skilled as I should/could and want to be), spiritual, honest, tell-it-like-it-is (though sometimes smart enough to know when to not do so, so I don't hurt people's feelings).

You better think (more), before you are really "I am."

R&B
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Posted by greenboy on 09-Nov-2003 17:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (EyeAm):
This isn't a band, and it is not a reunion. It's business. If we came from Amiga backgrounds, it does not mean that we have some overwhelming nostalgia to recreate the old team with a few ringers thrown in where necessary, to do a Faded Past Glories roadshow tour.

Amiga Inc itself is not interesting as a parnter. It is not able to pay wages, has a bad track record of not acknowledging realities like the abscence of phone lines, offices, addresses, has not paid taxes, has cancelled insurance and benefits packages cancelled without notification, has not fulfilled contracts, and has often lied about the situations until they are so exposed that even most duller minds will finally acknowledge that pizza can not be delivered there.

What kind of a partner is THAT? I'd hardly call that "alive and kicking" - it's hiding and dissembling AT BEST, for quite some time now.

There might be some assets in having the name itself (though I personally consider them rather slight). If the company cannot run an honest promotion with partners agreeing at the time to honor a coupon, or actually get PAID for DE licences as per contract, $4.50 per, why would anyone want to merge with them, or partner with them? More likely, someone would wait for a firesale, hoping maybe even that all the debt burden is paid beforehand.
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Posted by Ben Yoris on 09-Nov-2003 17:25 GMT
To EyeAm : the name Amiga means nothing else than old, crap, vaporware, repeatly taken over, and so on.

Look what Infogrames made out of the brand Atari : that's something again, even if it's only video games.

Of course, some nostalgic people may be interested in an hypothetic return of the name Amiga on the front scene, but Amiga Inc screwed everything up and now there are only ashes around the name "Amiga".
RJ Michal assumes evaluation role for Genesi : Comment 50 of 85ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 09-Nov-2003 17:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (bbrv):
You don't like when people get personal with you, then don't get personal with others.
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