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[News] Are MorphOS users geeky enough?ANN.lu
Posted on 12-Nov-2003 22:32 GMT by tokai75 comments
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Maybe you remember the saying "The 'M' in Morphos stands for 'geek'!" ? Yes, it's true and we MorphOS users are much more geeky than the other geeks from Linux and Co. Sadly it hasn't been possible for us ubergeeks to enjoy a port of the ultimative geektool of the known universe simply because nobody of us so called ubergeeks ported the damn thing. I'm talking about MLdonkey. :)

But good news!!! A few months ago we locked CISC into a dingy cellar and told him he couldn't come out until he finished the Objective-Caml port, which was a required and important step for porting MLdonkey. We haven't heard from him for a very long time, and we couldn't be bothered to check. But all of a sudden he emerged from his dark dungeon. Fortunately (or maybe I should better say: unfortunately ;) he had finished OCaml and surprisingly also MLdonkey.

If you find CISC then thank him for this nifty port, sadly when I last saw him he was running away screaming 'THE DARKNESS CONSUMES US! WE ARE ONE WITH THE VOID!'.

Well, actually we've done this releases just for fun. The port is not finished, it still misses a GUI (hey, isn't this more geeky than the Linux version? Isn't it?). Also most of the 'Bonus' stuff was more or less been done in a very creepy and probably unusabl... i mean geeky way. We're still on the lookout for someone with some actual talent, so that we can all kick back and boss him around. So if for some insane reason you wish to volunteer in coding the MUI GUI then try to catch CISC on IRC or via eMail, else don't bother him or he will run away again.

Anyway, here you find out more.



WE ARE SO GEEKY! WHOOHOO! :)
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 51 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Graham_nli on 13-Nov-2003 13:36 GMT
geekorphos?
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 52 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 13-Nov-2003 13:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (Graham_nli):
GorphOS? :-P
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 53 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 13-Nov-2003 13:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (Anonymous):
>Yes DaveP, You might have higher Aone Sales then Pegasos Sales, if every Aone
>User just buy a second and third board ;-)))

But don't Pegasos owners have to own TWO boards in order to have FOUR functional IDE devices? ;-)
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 54 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 13-Nov-2003 13:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Darrin):
No problems here with 3... I also tried 4 at some time.
No trouble with my drives, I have had some trouble with a CRAPPY btc dvd drive.
On Linux, MorphOS didn't seem to be affected.
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 55 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-Nov-2003 13:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Darrin):
Hmmm.. I just have two IDE Devices, One Harddisk as Master on Channel 1 and a CD Rom
as Master on Channel 2.. No Problems so far.. but then, MOS has at least a working ide.device ;-))
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 56 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 13-Nov-2003 14:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 54 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
I'm just going by the rumours that the Pegasos has only one of it's 2 IDE connectors functional. As I don't own a Pegasos I have to treat these rumours as facts in the same way that Pegasos owners believe any rumours about the AmigaOne having hardware problems or OS not working on it are facts. :-)

By the way, are you still running a Betatester or are you one of the lucky Pegasos 2 owners?
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 57 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by gary_c on 13-Nov-2003 15:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Darrin):
Darrin wrote:
>> I guess the winking smiley means what you wrote is b*llsh*t, right? In which
>> case, why did you bother?
>> -- gary_c

> I obviously did it just to upset you. I would have urinated on your cornflakes > instead, but that would have taken more effort. ;-)

You thought that comment would upset me? Sorry, I used to work with "deprived" kids for a living so a) I'm used to adolescent dysfunction and b) it takes more than that kind of comment to upset me. Now, urinating on my cornflakes -- that probably would have done it. As for your comment, it just makes me wonder why people take the time to write something that's calculated to cause bad feelings; you know the smiley doesn't really wipe away the impression. It's hard to believe you once wanted to "end the flamewars". Was that really you? Anyway, I think we're feeling pretty good about how things are going, so you'll really have to come up with something more devestating (to others, not self-inflicted as is the trend so far) to put a dent in anybody's day.

-- gary_c
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 58 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Senex on 13-Nov-2003 15:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (Darrin):
@Darrin

I used on all my Pegasos boards (BT1, PegIAp1, PegIAp2) all four IDE devices: Maxtor IDE 120 GB (1st Master), Seagate IDE 3 GB (1st Slave), LiteOn CDRW 40/12/48 Smartburn (2nd Master), LiteOn DVD 16x/48x (2nd Slave).
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 59 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 13-Nov-2003 15:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Steffen Haeuser):
By Steffen Haeuser: "The M in MorphOS stands for Moron".

Ooooooooh, great JOKE there! - must have taken the playground by storm at recess ; }*

I'm sure Wrong Pla.net is emailing you as we speak. They need a correspondent who is comfortable at peewee-height drinking fountains for a "Fischer-Price Hacking" expose ; }*

I can assure you that Wrong Pla.net article pay will buy lots of Double Bubble gum ;  }*
  
  
* use of smilies indicates place to laugh for the humor-impaired. No keyboard characters were harmed in the making of this post. Coupon offers inside Double Bubble wrappers voide where prohibited by law and may not be used in conjunction with other coupons imagined or actual. Consult local authorities when disposing of gum under desks.
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 60 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 13-Nov-2003 15:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 57 (gary_c):
Sheesh, here we go again...

>You thought that comment would upset me?

No, I wasn't even paying attention to the name of the poster when I commented.

>Sorry, I used to work with "deprived" kids for a living so a) I'm used to
>adolescent dysfunction and b) it takes more than that kind of comment to
>upset me.

Get a sense of humour.

>Now, urinating on my cornflakes -- that probably would have done it.

Ah, you found one!!!

>As for your comment, it just makes me wonder why people take the time to
>write something that's calculated to cause bad feelings;

It was "calculated" to make you smile.

>you know the smiley doesn't really wipe away the impression.

Then you'd better learn to understand what the "smiley" is for and stop being so paranoid.

>It's hard to believe you once wanted to "end the flamewars".

I still do. I've fanned no flames here.

>Was that really you? Anyway,

Yes.

>I think we're feeling pretty good about how things are going,

Who are "we"? You and Rich Woods?

>so you'll really have to come up with something more devestating (to others,
>not self-inflicted as is the trend so far) to put a dent in anybody's day.

I wasn't trying to "dent anybody's day". You really need to lighten up.... before I come around and urinate on your cornflakes. ;-)
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 61 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 13-Nov-2003 15:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 58 (Senex):
@ Senex

>I used on all my Pegasos boards (BT1, PegIAp1, PegIAp2) all four IDE devices:
>Maxtor IDE 120 GB (1st Master), Seagate IDE 3 GB (1st Slave), LiteOn CDRW
>40/12/48 Smartburn (2nd Master), LiteOn DVD 16x/48x (2nd Slave).

So was this rumour totally unjust or is there a problem with certain (random) boards?
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 62 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 13-Nov-2003 15:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (Darrin):
I use an April2 Pegasos.
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 63 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 13-Nov-2003 15:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Darrin):
With certain devices, not boards.
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 64 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 13-Nov-2003 16:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Darrin):
It is a MorphOS ide driver problem that happens in some situations with some devices (that's why not all users got the problem).
It is not a board problem. Work arounds have been indicated to the users while a new driver will hopefully be released soon.
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 65 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 13-Nov-2003 16:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Christophe Decanini):
@ Alkis & Chris

Thanks for the info - that clears that up for me.

A bit like a certain problem on the AmigaOne with linux that everyone likes to bring up... it's just a driver problem... (Darrin ducks quickly)
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 66 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 13-Nov-2003 16:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Christophe Decanini):
>It is a MorphOS ide driver problem that happens in some situations with some
>devices (that's why not all users got the problem).

Just out of interest, has anyone started compiling a list of "approved" or "problematic" hardware for anyone putting a Pegasos system together? I remember seeing someting somewhere with regards to software that would (or wouldn't) run.
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 67 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 13-Nov-2003 16:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (Darrin):
"A bit like a certain problem on the AmigaOne with linux that everyone likes to bring up... it's just a driver problem... (Darrin ducks quickly)"

A little bit different, as the AmigaOne with linux bug involve data corruption.
The MorphOS ide lock could eventually lead to a file not written completely but when it happens you know it (as your device is locked) while on the Amigaone + Linux you need to check the file checksum to know what's wrong.
It was not fixed on the Amigaone sold at the Alchimie show (while some people said months ago that it was fixed), which mean the user of these machines can corrupt their data.
I hope both of these problems will be eradicated. Time will tell.
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 68 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-Nov-2003 16:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Darrin):
It's a problem in MorphOS. Linux already fixes this. Same on the AmigaOne.
Check for "IDE Reset" in the Linux logs.
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 69 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-Nov-2003 22:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Hyperion pirate):
its fortunate then, that we came up with an agreement to put backdoors into this P2P program so we can just wipe your whole sys:

;-)
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 70 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by gary_c on 14-Nov-2003 00:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 60 (Darrin):
> Sheesh, here we go again...

Yeah, why do you create these problems?

>> You thought that comment would upset me?
> No, I wasn't even paying attention to the name of the poster when I commented.

Odd, usually "you" means the person who wrote the post you're replying to, but whatever....

>> Sorry, I used to work with "deprived" kids for a living so a) I'm used to
>> adolescent dysfunction and b) it takes more than that kind of comment to
>> upset me.
> Get a sense of humour.

Get a clue about when it isn't funny to troll under the guise of sarcasm. Ian said it already in a previous post. When the topic is a p2p app for MorphOS and you make a "joke" about MOS users wanting to pirate AOS (at some point in the future, apparently), you should know this "humor" is not going to be appreciated and that a smiley doesn't automatically get you off the hook. Geez. Consider the context here, the climate, and decide if you really do want to be part of the problem or part of the solution. In other words, when you start being "funny" about Amiga, Inc. and its partners, etc. as often as you are Genesi, then I'll start thinking maybe you really are into humor and not trolling.

>> Now, urinating on my cornflakes -- that probably would have done it.
> Ah, you found one!!!

No, you said something that wasn't a partisan pot shot.

>> As for your comment, it just makes me wonder why people take the time to
>> write something that's calculated to cause bad feelings;
> It was "calculated" to make you smile.

Now, this time, before I misunderstand you, who do you mean by "you"?

>> you know the smiley doesn't really wipe away the impression.
> Then you'd better learn to understand what the "smiley" is for and stop being > so paranoid.

No, you'd better learn what a smiley is *not* for. People know where you're coming from, Darrin.

>> It's hard to believe you once wanted to "end the flamewars".
> I still do. I've fanned no flames here.

Uh huh. Right.

>> Was that really you? Anyway,
> Yes.

Well, it was a good idea while it lasted. (About six posts into the thread as I recall; you couldn't even get through the thread without reverting to exactly the behavior you were persuading people to leave behind.)

>> I think we're feeling pretty good about how things are going,
> Who are "we"? You and Rich Woods?

Not necessarily. People into the Pegasos platform is what I meant.

>> so you'll really have to come up with something more devestating (to others,
>> not self-inflicted as is the trend so far) to put a dent in anybody's day.
> I wasn't trying to "dent anybody's day". You really need to lighten up.... before I come around and urinate on your cornflakes. ;-)

Sorry but that line's too lame to use twice in one thread. At least you could have used a variant like ... before I wizz on your waffles .... I suggest if you want things lightened up, you should stick to comments that don't need a smiley attached to show people it's "a joke", and you avoid comments that, without the smiley, would be obvious trolling.

-- gary_c
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 71 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 14-Nov-2003 00:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 70 (gary_c):
Poor Gary,

After wading through your bout of verbal diarrhea, I have concluded that you are bigger waste of space than I thought you were. You have my pity, you sand, lonely man.

PS. I have no reason to be creative and original when replying to you as you're not worth the effort and your pathetic stance at simply opposing everything I type is both predictable and tiresome. I've passed all my exams, so I'd get back to studying for yours if I was you.

Now it's your turn to repeat your usual, pathetic monologue. I can't wait for yet another helping of Gary's sharp, rapier-like wit...
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 72 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by gary_c on 14-Nov-2003 01:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 71 (Darrin):
> Poor Gary,
> After wading through your bout of verbal diarrhea, I have concluded that you are bigger waste of space than I thought you were. You have my pity, you sand, lonely man.

They say personal insults are the last resort for somebody with no viable points to make. I guess you just proved that.

> PS. I have no reason to be creative and original when replying to you as you're not worth the effort and your pathetic stance at simply opposing everything I type is both predictable and tiresome.

If you think I'm simply opposing everything you type, you're obviously not catching the drift of what I'm saying. But your attitude makes it hard for me to want to explain things again so I'll just let it go. As for your being original and creative, I think I've read enough of your posts in the past to know what I'd be in for anyway, so I don't feel too deprived that you're not going to treat me this time.

>I've passed all my exams, so I'd get back to studying for yours if I was you.

Passed your exams, eh? Well, now I *am* impressed. Seriously, that's great; it's good to know you shine somewhere even if you tend to come up short here.

> Now it's your turn to repeat your usual, pathetic monologue. I can't wait for yet another helping of Gary's sharp, rapier-like wit...

Hmm, this contradicts your view above that I'm a waste of time, but then when was logical consistency important? You're actually more fun to spar with than some people, who only insult and don't offer even bad reasoning to work with. But my point in this thread wasn't to spar, but to work with ideas, so if you've no interest in illuminating or being illuminated but only in lamely trying to insult me, it seems my job is done here.

-- gary_c
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 73 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 14-Nov-2003 03:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 60 (Darrin):
The M in MorphOS stands for MorphOS, its a recursive acronym, like the G in GNU stands for Gnu's Not Unix.

Now, the second letter of Morphos, O, thats interesting. You probably wouldn't guess, but the O is also recursive and it stands for OrphOS.

SLAMITY DING DONG DANG....it's late. OK< goodnight.
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 74 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 14-Nov-2003 11:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (gary_c):
Poor Gary_cantSee is still desperately trying to save face...

They say personal insults are the last resort for somebody with no viable points to make. I guess you just proved that.

I made all my points ages ago, I'm simply responding to your crud. Do try and pay attention to what's going on. I know this is hard for someone of your limited inteligence, but please do try.

>If you think I'm simply opposing everything you type, you're obviously not
>catching the drift of what I'm saying.

There has to be a "drift" in order to catch one.

>But your attitude makes it hard for me to want to explain things again so I'll
>just let it go.

I wish you would let go, because the only person with an attitude problem here is you and it's not so much and "attitude problem" as more of a "mental problem" where you seem to be attempting to notch up brownie points for no apparent reason.

>As for your being original and creative, I think I've read enough of your
>posts in the past to know what I'd be in for anyway, so I don't feel too
>deprived that you're not going to treat me this time.

It's nice to know that you actually read my posts. It's a real shame that you cant understand them.

>Passed your exams, eh? Well, now I *am* impressed. Seriously, that's great;
>it's good to know you shine somewhere even if you tend to come up short here.

ROTFLMAO. Now that really is desperate. I'm "coming up short"? This from the man who hasn't posted one constructive thing on ANN since he discovered the "add comment" button.

>Hmm, this contradicts your view above that I'm a waste of time, but then when
>was logical consistency important?

You're failing to grasp the reasons for my comments agiain. I'm not trying to win any awards for literature here... and you couldn't if you tried. And as for logic, where's the logic in your obsessive posts in reply to my remarks?

>You're actually more fun to spar with than some people, who only insult and
>don't offer even bad reasoning to work with.

I'm glad you're having fun, however I'm starting to think "fun" is an understatement and that you're actually "getting off" on this. Also, a reason is not "bad" simply because you cannot grasp the logic behind it. Still, one day you'll enjoy the benefits of an education, but as you obviously paid (pay?) as little attention to your teachers as you do to me then I doubt you have little ability to learn anything new.

>But my point in this thread wasn't to spar,

It wasn't? You have a funny way of showing it.

>but to work with ideas,

Ideas? Wonderfull. I love ideas!!! I'll send you a couple by email so that you can have some too!!!

>so if you've no interest in illuminating or being illuminated but only in
>lamely trying to insult me, it seems my job is done here.

Please read back over the thread. You started the insults (as per usual) and I simply rose to the bait (I'm at work and bored).

If you REALLY want to engage me in a civilized debate or discuss points of interest in order to share your opinion or discover mine then I think you'll find that I'm more than capable of doing so in a polite and friendly manner. However, I don't believe this is part of your agenda. Rather, it looks like you're one more sock puppet who's mission is to attack anyone that comes from the "red camp". We see it all the time here on ANN. It's amazing that someone like "DaveP", "Ray", "Samface", "MikeyC", etc only have to post the words "I agree" in order to be set apon by a legion of frenzied zombies accusing them of being "trolls".

Anyway, we're way off topic here, so why not continue this in private. Off course, if you are part of the mission to publicly attack the "red camp" then you'll no doubt want to keep airing the dirty washing in public...

Darrin
Are MorphOS users geeky enough? : Comment 75 of 75ANN.lu
Posted by gary_c on 15-Nov-2003 02:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (Darrin):
> Anyway, we're way off topic here, so why not continue this in private. Off course, if you are part of the mission to publicly attack the "red camp" then you'll no doubt want to keep airing the dirty washing in public...

Continue in private? After listening to your insults (it's pretty funny how little you know about me) and your delusionary drivel? I can't think of anything that would be a bigger waste of my time.

-- gary_c
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