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Posted on 24-Nov-2003 18:37 GMT by 4pLaY31 comments
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A new status update from the AROS team is available at aros.org. Other than information about the latest happenings in the AROS development realm, you can find a couple of new screenshots showing off some of the new features. Enjoy the read!
Aros Status Update : Comment 1 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Leif on 24-Nov-2003 17:45 GMT
Screenshots link not working.
Aros Status Update : Comment 2 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Radfoo on 24-Nov-2003 17:48 GMT
Cool, looks better each time :-)

Have to download the latest ISO sometime
Aros Status Update : Comment 3 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 24-Nov-2003 17:56 GMT
I was seeing uae running and though if it could be made to run on another screen, this way it would be like having two workbenches, maybe some kind of shortkey could be made (what about alt-tab ;), so the user could cicle normally the Aros screen trough Amiga + m and another to cycle to and within uae.

0.02€
Aros Status Update : Comment 4 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 24-Nov-2003 18:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Leif):
> Screenshots link not working.

Should be fixed now. Sorry for the inconvenient.
Aros Status Update : Comment 5 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 24-Nov-2003 18:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (pixie):
Well, as for having 2 workbenchs, you can already have them, you can have 1000 workbe... err, wanderer's if you wish. As for screens being switchable with short-keys, that should already be the case. And as for UAE going full screen on a screen of its own, that will be implemented in the near future.
Aros Status Update : Comment 6 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Nov-2003 18:26 GMT
>The Installer utility now has a Zune GUI and supports localization, thanks to the work of Henning Kiel.

Is that a full and working replacement for the Commodore Installer?
Aros Status Update : Comment 7 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 24-Nov-2003 18:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Fabio Alemagna):
one native, other through emulation, on multiple screens... it would be an effective way to run trough emulation until it is integrated, like having multiple oses
Aros Status Update : Comment 8 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Leif on 24-Nov-2003 18:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Fabio Alemagna):
"should be fixed now."

Yep. Looking cool :)
Aros Status Update : Comment 9 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 24-Nov-2003 19:02 GMT
Good work so far guys. Soon I will try to download a new ISO and see if it works..last one I tried did not.
Aros Status Update : Comment 10 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 24-Nov-2003 20:09 GMT
I must say this is getting better & better all the time :)

I think i'll be clearing a partition in afew weeks to put AROS on, if that's possible? Can Lilo be used to start AROS?

Fabio, mind if i bug ya over email some day about it? :)

Cheers
Aros Status Update : Comment 11 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Trizt on 24-Nov-2003 20:34 GMT
It seems like there have joined a spammer to the AROS followers rank, noticed today that someone crossposted about how great AmigaOS is and that it could do stuff 15 years ago which haven't been introduced into any other OS, and of course a link to the aros homepage.

Maybe this kind of spamming could be for those trolls supporting the other Amiga like OS's.
Aros Status Update : Comment 12 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 24-Nov-2003 20:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Trizt):
I beg your pardon? What do you mean? Someone doing bulk emails about AOS & AROS, or someone spamming the AROS lists?

Spammers should be killed, slowly

Cheers
Aros Status Update : Comment 13 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Ronald on 24-Nov-2003 20:49 GMT
Great! I can't wait for this Amiga OS to be able to boot into it's own partition on my P4. :D
Aros Status Update : Comment 14 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by 4pLaYeR on 24-Nov-2003 20:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Ronald):
It already can and ill tell how but first BEWARE running this command will NUKE your HD!! before installing AROS onto a System: partition it makes! so try with a empty HD :) just run sys:utilities/installaros.
Aros Status Update : Comment 15 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 24-Nov-2003 21:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (4pLaYeR):
Any way to do it without killing the rest of the drive?

Surely it must be possible to drop the AROS kernel in /boot & add it to LILO?
All that remains then is setting up the partition you wish to use with it, no?

Cheers
Aros Status Update : Comment 16 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Trizt on 24-Nov-2003 21:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Amon_Re):
I mean spamming newsgroups with messages about AROS/AmiOS (classic)
Aros Status Update : Comment 17 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Repoman on 24-Nov-2003 21:17 GMT
Hi!

Very cool! :-)

I`ve got a question: There aren`t all nightly builds available on the download page. What happened?

See ya
Aros Status Update : Comment 18 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 24-Nov-2003 21:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Trizt):
> I mean spamming newsgroups with messages about AROS/AmiOS (classic)

Where? Which NGs?
Aros Status Update : Comment 19 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 24-Nov-2003 21:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Repoman):
> There aren`t all nightly builds available on the download page. What happened?

When you don't see nightly builds, don't worry, it just means something got broken in the build. This is of course the case at hand :-) Next build (tonight's one) should be ok.
Aros Status Update : Comment 20 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by 4pLaYeR on 24-Nov-2003 21:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Amon_Re):
Anything is possible :) feel free to toy around yourself and see what happens but dont blame us if you wreck something :) a better installer will come when someone wants to work on it.
Aros Status Update : Comment 21 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Repoman on 24-Nov-2003 21:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Fabio Alemagna):
Hi Fabio!

Ok great! Thx!

See ya
Aros Status Update : Comment 22 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 24-Nov-2003 22:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (4pLaYeR):
What would you need in an Installer? Would it be based on CMB's installer?
(AKA, same scripting language?)

Tell you what, i'll try & get AROS on my system, and i'll see what i can do, it's been ages since i last wrote an installer, but i'm willing to give it a go.

Wich reminds me that i have to get my old A1200 back up & running too... so much to do, so little time *sigh*

Cheers
Aros Status Update : Comment 23 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 24-Nov-2003 22:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Amon_Re):
/replace CMB > CMB

Cheers
Aros Status Update : Comment 24 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Nov-2003 23:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Amon_Re):
>What would you need in an Installer? Would it be based on CMB's installer?
(AKA, same scripting language?)

Hardly, it would be an x86 program that installs AROS on a partition, not an Amiga program (hard to rtun that outside AmigaOS on a PC). Unless I completely misunderstood something. Anywy, I don't like the requirement for a dedicated drive, too. Does the appetite for its own drive extend to the AROS version hosted under Linux?
Aros Status Update : Comment 25 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 25-Nov-2003 00:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Anonymous):
> Does the appetite for its own drive extend to the AROS version hosted under
> Linux?

Of course not. AROS hosted can be launched as a normal application (the "kernel" is the application) and all AROS programs live in the host filesystem.

AROS' native "appetite", to use your term, for its own partition is there just because the program used to install AROS is pretty primitive and doesn't fiddle that much with the harddrives and partitions. You can always attempt an istallation by hand, via HDToolBox, format64 and copy.
Aros Status Update : Comment 26 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Nov-2003 00:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Fabio Alemagna):
>Of course not. AROS hosted can be launched as a normal application (the "kernel" is the application) and all AROS programs live in the host filesystem.

How do hosted version and the standalone version compare in terms of performance and stability (computing, file system, graphics)? Is there a good reason to go one route or another?
Aros Status Update : Comment 27 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 25-Nov-2003 00:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Anonymous):
> How do hosted version and the standalone version compare in terms of performance
> and stability (computing, file system, graphics)? Is there a good reason to go
> one route or another?

Native is faster in terms of task switching latencies, gfx operations (although *some* gfx operations can be faster under X11, due to HW acceleration) and overall responsiveness and feeling, but hosted has faster filesystem access, it allows you to share files with the outher world easily, and is best suited - and suggested - for AROS development, both of AROS applications and AROS itself, because then you can take advantage of the host OS to do debugging in a way that has never been possible on any AOS version.
Aros Status Update : Comment 28 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Nov-2003 04:14 GMT
maybe this one will work.
Aros Status Update : Comment 29 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 25-Nov-2003 07:12 GMT
AROS is starting to look good... damn, I think I have to set up a x86 box for that...
Aros Status Update : Comment 30 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Trizt on 25-Nov-2003 08:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Fabio Alemagna):
Now I don't remeber really all, was a nice list of newsgroups but alt.os.linux alt.linux and then there was groups for windows and beos too.
Aros Status Update : Comment 31 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 25-Nov-2003 22:30 GMT
congrats to the aros team, you all really have the right stuff.
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