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Posted on 30-Nov-2003 18:32 GMT by bbrv56 comments
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Here is a New York Times Magazine article about Apple, the iPod, marketing, product development and management. We contend that this Community can produce a Super TiVo-like device that integrates the network into the use of the content itself. The Pegasos is building block #1 to any competent computing environment and the necessary tool required by the developer support enlisted to customize the platform for consumer use. A Pegasos computer is a desktop machine. A Pegasos computer enclosed in a fan-less VCR-like size case becomes a consumer product: a black box. The Pegasos black box operates equally well with a television screen or a computer monitor. The Pegasos black box could come with its own file sharing and downloading programs -- music, movies, video games – a preference is selected, a source found, the entertainment begins. The technology would be invisible to the entertainment experience. The consumer manages the experience through an easily understood user interface with a remote control or through a web browser and a keyboard for more sophisticated users. As the hub of the Home Entertainment Center high fidelity sound/audio can now be introduced through the 24/7 broadband Internet connection to bring existing home stereo equipment back into use. Here the Pegasos black box can be positioned to be a consumer product that would do to a TV set what MP3 did to music – any show any time.
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Posted by kalmar on 01-Dec-2003 14:37 GMT
Good IPod article.

On the subject of "tivo-like" devices, I noticed an advert at the weekend, it's a Sony device which I think does most of the above, the form factor is an LCD TV with a little detachable remote keyboard. It's probably PC based (given it was VAIO branded) but maybe not.
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Posted by Targhan on 01-Dec-2003 15:36 GMT
An idea such as this is the ultimate end for the idea of the CDTV ;-) Now, the question is, how do we convince the powers that be to give us a CDTV case?!

Seriously, I think the CDTV was the first move in this sort of direction, TiVo further approached the end result, as does what several of the direct-dish solutions do as well. The concept is good, replace many componants with one componant. As long as a design is modular and can adapt to a changing market, I think such a conceptual device has potential. However, as soon as a device becomes "locked" into one set of specifications, it's end-of-life has begun.

Well, that's my take ;)
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Posted by minator on 01-Dec-2003 15:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (Trizt):
>I do belive we still will continue to have our computers, I see the MMBox more as a
>replacement of the TV/VCR/TV-game, a new generation of applictaion that the whole
>family can gather around, but things you want to do more privatly, like chat with
>your friends, write your reports and so on, you still will do with a computer,
>or a private console.

So you don't agree - except you do ?

I think I know what you mean, one thing I have been thinking is that we may end up with just one box but it can act in different ways.
This is the alternative to convergance and is I think one of the possibilities but I'm not sure about it. It could end up being "a jack of all trades but a master of none", that said get the price right and you'll sell truck loads of em.

>This gave me another idea... sooner or later most people will have a cellular with a builtin
>hand-held that may use bluethoot, what about having a bluethoot network, so when
>someone gets "home" will be linked to the MMBox, informing about mails that has come,
>maybe even telling when the kids was home last time, lets you backup data to the MMBox
>from the phone and so on. In a way the cellular could become the private console for the
>system, of course it would be a limited console, but you could easilly carry it with you.

Hmm... You're giving me ideas here :-D


>In the end we may even end with a cellular which makes everything, with a hologram projector ;)

We're well on the way already:
http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=520
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Posted by Trizt on 01-Dec-2003 16:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (minator):
Oh, damn, I read all to fast sometimes...

Yes, I do agree....


So what ideas did you get???
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Posted by minator on 02-Dec-2003 09:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 54 (Trizt):
>So what ideas did you get??

Just wondering can we do some connection betwen the Eclipsis and the Psylent (i.e. MMBox)...
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Posted by Martin Blom on 03-Dec-2003 08:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (bbrv):
I see. But I think you're going to have great difficulty getting people to actually buy such a device, for several reasons.

As others have said, I definately think the box has to do something familiar, like record brodcast TV at least to HD but preferable also to DVD or CD.

One big problem with viewing files online is the bandwidth required for decent quality video. I have a 2.5 Mb/s line and I'd say you need more. MPEG4 movies at this rate still look far worse than television broadcast. The example you gave (moviebeam or what what is?) uses TV broadcast as transmission. Unless you plan something similar, bandwidth is going to be a big problem for several years to come.

However, a box that combined perfect, full quality recording and timeshifting, MPEG4 re/encoding and CD/DVD burning in addition to half-decent (say 384x288 at 1-2 Mb/s) online movie playback could be very interesting for lots of people.
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