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Posted on 03-Dec-2003 04:47 GMT by Rich Woods (Edited on 2003-12-03 08:45:21 GMT by Christian Kemp)128 comments
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ORDER CONTINUING 31 Plaintiffs' MOTION for Summary Judgment by Judge Robert S. Lasnik. Defendant's request for an extension of time to respond to plaintiff's motion is granted in part. Plaintiffs' motion is renoted for 12/12/2003. Any opposition is due no later than 4:30 p.m. on Monday, December 8, 2003. Any reply is due not later than 4:30 p.m. on Thursday, December 11, 2003. (KERR, ) (Entered: 12/02/2003)

Get the doc Here

Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 1 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 03-Dec-2003 04:06 GMT
Plaintiffs' motion is renoted for 12/12/2003. Any opposition is due no later than 4:30 p.m. on Monday, December 8, 2003. Any reply is due not later than 4:30 p.m. on Thursday, December 11, 2003. (KERR, ) (Entered: 12/02/2003) Get the doc Here.
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Well I guess December 12th WILL be the day. If billyboy does/doesn't show up in court without an attorney, or any motions are NOT filed it looks like Judge Lasnik will grant the motion for summary judgment.

He certainly has given billyboy EVERY chance in the book - there can be no appeal on this one (like Amiga could afford an attorney).

Just in time for OS 4.0!
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 2 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Ronald on 03-Dec-2003 04:17 GMT
The judge was very generous. He wasn't part of an ongoing conspiracy after all!
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 3 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 03-Dec-2003 04:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Ronald):
: Comment 2 of 2

Posted by Ronald (24.202.65.121) on 03-Dec-2003 05:17:50

The judge was very generous. He wasn't part of an ongoing conspiracy after all!
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The judge was being overly generous and cautious - he is leaving NO grounds for an appeal (like Amiga could afford one).

It is funny that billyboy said business obligations (!) prevented him from obtaining counsel! The judge must be falling all over himself after reading that.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 4 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 03-Dec-2003 04:23 GMT
/me puts on Queen - Show must go on


tralalallaalala
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 5 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 03-Dec-2003 04:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (hooligan/dcs):
Posted by hooligan/dcs (Trusted user) on 03-Dec-2003 05:23:48

/me puts on Queen - Show must go on


tralalallaalala
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I'm wondering if I'd be allowed to videotape the proceeding? (Really depends on the judge).

Would make a GREAT DVD! I'm considering it.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 6 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 03-Dec-2003 05:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Rich Woods):
How illegal would it be to smuggle a spycam inside the courtroom? ;-)
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 7 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 03-Dec-2003 05:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (hooligan/dcs):
Posted by hooligan/dcs (Trusted user) on 03-Dec-2003 06:10:58

In Reply to Comment 5:
How illegal would it be to smuggle a spycam inside the courtroom? ;-)
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It wouldn't be hard at all - but unwise.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 8 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Dec-2003 06:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Rich Woods):
Sorry to rain on your parade, but even if amiga inc implodes as you so much seem to desire, OS4 is going to be pretty much unaffected. Or have you now decided to switch your hate to hyperion? OK, AInc owe you $200, that's reason enough to want to see them all publically humiliated and to openly celebrate when their company is dissolved, but I'm curious what did Hyperion did? when are we going to see Ben Herman's marriage license online at Hyperion-entertainment.us?
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 9 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Dec-2003 06:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
OBTW, you were in such a hurry to post this that you forgot to include a topic. Hope you didn't run too many red lights on the way back from the courthouse :)
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 10 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Dec-2003 07:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Anonymous):
Hoho, I must've struck a nerve! I'm officially in your shitlist it seems, I get a "Forbidden" response when I try to access your doc. Never mind, I'll just get it from Samface.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 11 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Volmer on 03-Dec-2003 08:19 GMT
How ironic that I have a christmas party on december 12th. :-)
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 12 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 03-Dec-2003 08:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Rich Woods):
"The judge must be falling all over himself after reading that."

I doubt it. Judges see silly excuses all day every day. The likelihood of Judge Lasnick finding this case even mildly interesting is very small.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 13 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Dec-2003 08:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Don Cox):
Thendic`s lawyer seems to find it amusing with that dry sarcastic wit.

Suggested Amiga delay tactic:

"The dog ate my casework."
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 14 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rik Sweeney on 03-Dec-2003 08:57 GMT
I haven't been following this at all. Can someone please explain what's going on, in a nutshell if possible. I don't think I've got the patience to read back through the whole thing.

Thanks
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 15 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Senex on 03-Dec-2003 09:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Rik Sweeney):
@Rik

Maybe this older news-item can give you an overview:
http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2003-11-00083-EN.html
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 16 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 03-Dec-2003 09:20 GMT
Imagine if all this would appear as a electronic book for AmigaAnywhere, "Amiga Deathbed Vigil #4". It would rocket the sales at amigaanywhere shop... :)
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 17 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Atheist2 on 03-Dec-2003 09:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (priest):
> Imagine if all this would appear as a electronic book for
> AmigaAnywhere, "Amiga Deathbed Vigil #4". It would rocket the sales at
> amigaanywhere shop... :)


Lol! "Amiga Deathbed Vigil #4.0", get the whole series...

It's just like how "Final Fantasy" keeps not being the last one.

"The Grim Reaper" has his work cut out for him on this One!

Well, all will fall into SOME place soon. I wonder what the oddsmakers in Las Vegas are offering. ;-)


AInc.! We await with baited breath....
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 18 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 03-Dec-2003 10:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
Anonymous:

>Or have you now decided to switch your hate to hyperion?

You seem to be refering to text, at least I can't find in this thread...

Only "related" mention I can find, is "Just in time for OS 4.0!" And I can't see anything "bad" in that...

And in fact Amiga inc. going bankrupt before AOS4 release might actually mean _additional income_ for Hyperion (as they wouldn't have to pay A. Inc any license fees)

Hyperion has MANY times stated, that their deal on AOS4 is so good, that it would still be done, in unlikely case, that Amiga inc. went bankrupt.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 19 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 03-Dec-2003 10:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
 Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 10 of 18

Posted by Anonymous (4.33.151.136) on 03-Dec-2003 08:29:32

In Reply to Comment 9:
Hoho, I must've struck a nerve! I'm officially in your shitlist it seems, I get a "Forbidden" response when I try to access your doc. Never mind, I'll just get it from Samface.
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Yes - get it from sammyface. That way you can be sure "nothing is left out" or "altered".
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 20 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Dec-2003 10:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Jupp3):
That makes me wonder if Amiga Inc sold it's rights to AmigaOS, to Hyperion. Any other solution would be voidable by bankrupcy court. Does AmigaOS belong to Hyperion and we just don't know yet?
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 21 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 03-Dec-2003 10:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Don Cox):
Posted by Don Cox (Trusted user) on 03-Dec-2003 09:27:52

In Reply to Comment 3:
"The judge must be falling all over himself after reading that."

I doubt it. Judges see silly excuses all day every day. The likelihood of Judge Lasnick finding this case even mildly interesting is very small.
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Silly excuse? The CEO of a corporation under a Federal lawsuit comes up with I couldn't get an attorney because of business obligations? With $100 in the bank?

Judge Lasnik is giving billyboy enough rope to hang himself.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 22 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 03-Dec-2003 10:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
Posted by Anonymous (4.33.151.136) on 03-Dec-2003 07:37:33

In Reply to Comment 7:
Sorry to rain on your parade, but even if amiga inc implodes as you so much seem to desire, OS4 is going to be pretty much unaffected. Or have you now
decided to switch your hate to hyperion? OK, AInc owe you $200, that's reason
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Pretty poor tactics when you have to put words in my mouth. I sat across from Ben at the restaurant when attending Amiwest - I bear absolutely NO dislike for Hyperion.

As a matter of fact I feel quite sorry for them for the time, effort and money they spent and now having billyboy screw them up. People deserve to make money on their hard work and having an outside influence to cause substantial delays etc is not something I want to see.

And BTW, I'll by OS 4.0 when it comes out for my A4000 PPC. And where do you get the idea Amiga, Inc "owes" me $200? You like to put words in other people's mouths then pass it off as "truth". Maybe being a total jerk is one reason why you can go elsewhere for your "docs" and information.




enough to want to see them all publically humiliated and to openly celebrate when their company is dissolved, but I'm curious what did Hyperion did? when

Hyperion did what?


are we going to see Ben Herman's marriage license online at Hyperion-entertainment.us?
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And why should I do that? Stop cutting yourself in pieces for troll bait.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 23 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 03-Dec-2003 10:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Anonymous):
Posted by Anonymous (4.33.151.136) on 03-Dec-2003 07:39:15

In Reply to Comment 8:
OBTW, you were in such a hurry to post this that you forgot to include a topic. Hope you didn't run too many red lights on the way back from the courthouse :)
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Funny - we'll get a slot for you on the Tonight show.

The courthouse is in Seattle, WA- I live in Phoenix, AZ. Go look at a map.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 24 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 03-Dec-2003 11:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Rich Woods):
that's one hell of alot of red lights ;)

Cheers
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 25 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Bodie on 03-Dec-2003 11:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Amon_Re):
LOL
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 26 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Dec-2003 13:12 GMT
Tick-Tock-Tick-Tock
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 27 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 03-Dec-2003 13:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
Sorry, I haven't published these latest docs yet. I've been to the dreamhack demoparty (http://www.dreamhack.org) and spent the latest couple of days catching up on sleep. They'll be online by tonight (or tomorrow, depending on where you live).
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 28 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 03-Dec-2003 13:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (samface):
You're into demoscene.. have we ever met on some swedish party not knowing it?

Do you like to hang with scene outside partyhall (preferably nearby forest or rocks) and drink a lot of alcohol?
If answer is "yes" to both questions, the probability of us having met each other is close to 95%.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 29 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Tigger on 03-Dec-2003 14:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Anonymous):
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That makes me wonder if Amiga Inc sold it's rights to AmigaOS, to Hyperion. Any other solution would be voidable by bankrupcy court. Does AmigaOS belong to Hyperion and we just don't know yet?
>>>>

Even that would be voidable by the court depending on when it occurred. There was a long thread (ok arguement) about this between Ben & I on the bunny, that came down too, even if the contract was voided by bankruptcy (as in my experience they usually are), Ben believed MAI would lend them money to buy Amiga Incs assets, and MAI was much larger then Thendic. I found that funny, because if an IP and license I needed were to go on sale, Thendic isnt the first company I would be worried about acquiring it. And frankly MAI as a publically traded company, isnt likely to give alot of money to buy Amiga Incs ashes.
-Tig
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 30 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 03-Dec-2003 15:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Rich Woods):
Deathbed Vigil II? :)
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 31 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 03-Dec-2003 15:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Tigger):
I think Ben Hermans is capable of sweet-talking Mai (or FIC or whoever it is)
into giving over the money to buy Amiga's assets. Being publically traded
isn't much of a deal here: Genesi probably will be, too, not long from now!

You're right though, Genesi are the least of the concerns of people who are
running Amiga-based companies.

The very worst Genesi could do is shut down and not renew the licenses and
contracts, and put Hyperion and Eyetech out of business in terms of selling
Amigas - not that Eyetech's product is an Amiga, and not that they weren't
going to sell it outside of the Amiga branding anyway.

To continue the speculation: Genesi, as a company, definitely would still
have "duty and honour" enough to keep the Amiga spirit going.

Why would we kill Eyetech off? HOW could we? They're a good reseller and they'r
perfectly capable of doing business without a boing badge.

Why can't we get the Hyperion guys to make some games for MorphOS? That's what
they do after all, game ports.

There's NO reason why a Genesi controlled Amiga future would be bad either
morally or financially for any party involved, apart from Amiga Inc. itself
as it stands currently!!

So all the negativity about how Genesi would be a bad thing for Amiga here,
needs to stop. This isn't a religion. We aren't on a holy war to fly planes
into Ben Hermans' office or drive car-bombs into the industrial estate where
Eyetech is based. There is no room here for spite.

I find it disappointing that people hate us so much. We don't hate as a
company, it's depressing to see so many "loyal customers" doing so as if it's a missing factor..

=Neko=
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 32 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 03-Dec-2003 16:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (hooligan/dcs):
Answer to both is no. Sorry, I don't think alcohol and composing music/drawing graphics mix very well, especially when you haven't slept in 48hrs. :-P

Are you in any demogroup or something?
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 33 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Dec-2003 16:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
And who said that Hyperion would be affected? IMHO, they will be *MUCH* better
without Amiga Inc.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 34 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by nahda on 03-Dec-2003 16:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (samface):
Uhmm.. my fair guess would be that he is in "Dual crew shining" ;)

Therefore he´s handle says "Hooligan / DCS"

He has probably also been to Boozembly.. :)
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 35 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 03-Dec-2003 16:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (nahda):
That's odd, never heard of that group before. But then, I've been rather inactive in the scene for the last couple of years. You know, I used to be in a group called "fACTOR", though I think even less people has heard of that group. :-P
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 36 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Dec-2003 16:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Neko):
> The very worst Genesi could do is shut down and not renew the licenses and
> contracts, and put Hyperion and Eyetech out of business in terms of selling
> Amigas - not that Eyetech's product is an Amiga, and not that they weren't
> going to sell it outside of the Amiga branding anyway.

Thank you Neko, for revealing Genesi's plans on what to do after the Amiga IP fire-sale. We already guessed as much, Bill doesn't want to kill Eyetech or Hyperion as such, just get them out of the picture as far as selling Amiga stuff. Amiga Inc *has* to die though, what else are they going to sell? Your boss has behaved like monopolist since day 1, I wouldn't be surprised if he had an autographed picture of Bill Gates in his office.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 37 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Piru on 03-Dec-2003 16:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (nahda):
http://www.boozembly.org/poster.jpg
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 38 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 03-Dec-2003 16:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (nahda):
I guess you are refering to Assembly, right? I regret never having been to that party... :-(
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 39 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 03-Dec-2003 17:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (samface):
Posted by samface (131.116.254.199) on 03-Dec-2003 17:41:311

In Reply to Comment 34 (nahda):
I guess you are refering to Assembly, right? I regret never having been to that party... :-(
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Why don't you start your OWN thread on your life, the demoscene and groups you're in?

You seem to love to come to other threads and totally take it off track with your posts.

This thread is about Amiga and the issues that will be dealt with on Dec 12th.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 40 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 03-Dec-2003 20:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Rich Woods):
If you wanna blame someone, blame it on me. I was the one who asked.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 41 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 03-Dec-2003 20:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (samface):
>In Reply to Comment 28 (hooligan/dcs):
>Answer to both is no. Sorry, I don't think alcohol and composing music/drawing graphics mix very well, especially when you haven't slept in 48hrs. :-P

Changes of us having met ; decreased to 0%

>Are you in any demogroup or something?

I don't keep that DCS there for nothing.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 42 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Dec-2003 20:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Rich Woods):
Rich, this is ann - thread topics here are more a suggestion than anything else. If I had a cent for every time someone goes off-topic here I'd be a very rich man by now :)
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 43 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 03-Dec-2003 21:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Neko):
Neko, if genesi were to obtain the rights to AOS, and they shut down AOS4, that would be the day i quit the community, because that would mean, for me, that Amiga is history.

I'd also be very, VERY, pissed off, maybe i'd pull a Rich on you guys & make sure every stinking detail of your operations comes out, that's how pissed i might get.

Genesi getting the Amiga trademarks? Fine fine, i don't mind, Genesi terminating AOS4, where's my tomahawk?

Cheers
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 44 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by smithy on 03-Dec-2003 21:25 GMT
Well it seems pretty obvious that Amiga Inc is going to be history before too long. I think all sides of the Amiga community will hapilly raise a glass to that! It'll be interesting to see what happens afterwards though. People here have speculated over who might buy Amiga Inc's assets. We might assume that their biggest asset would be AmigaOS, versions 1.0 - 3.1 (is 3.5 & 3.9 owned by Haage & Partner?), however, does Amiga Inc own AmigaOS any more.....? I am not so sure....
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 45 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 03-Dec-2003 21:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (smithy):
Based on some nasty rumours no.. but we all should know better than listening rumours cause they may one day become true. :-)
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 46 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Dec-2003 22:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Amon_Re):
I'm with you here. I don't really care if Bill wants to sell rebadged Pegasos 2s as "Amiga Twos", but if he decides to buy the rights to AmigaOS4 so he can bury it (pretty likely, unless he wants to royally piss off Laire and Fabio), I'm not going to be a happy camper.

BBRV, you can say what you want about wanting as many OSs as possible to run on the Peg, but I know that the hatred between you, Bill McE and BenH runs deep, and you'd probably publically cancel the OS4 project just so you could see the look on Ben's face. Let's just say I'll believe in your good faith when I see it.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 47 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Gregg on 03-Dec-2003 23:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Amon_Re):
Interesting scenario : Hypothetically speaking, were this to come about, what do _you_ think Genesi should do with AOS(4)? Please try to apply a modicum of business sense to the answer if you want to be taken seriously.

For my part, the key question is whether Genesi expends any efforts in further development of AOS4 - there's not a lot of sense in just arbitrarily binning it (if it really is "just two more weeks" away). I can see the sense in continuing to offer AOS4, but their strategic OS is MorphOS; if the trademarks fall their way and the MorphOS crew don't object, they can even rename MorphOS to some form of "AmigaOS".

However, while I can't see a clear motivation for continuing development of AOS(4) in-house, it seems reasonable to let Hyperion carry on with much the same arrangement as they currently have with AI; Genesi can give them a hand with keeping up with the Pegasos hardware, and concentrate their own efforts on MorphOS.

This leaves the question of whether Amiga API compatibility in MorphOS will continue to be a key feature; there are a lot of subjective variables affecting this, so I don't think I'll risk an opinion here.

Gregg
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 48 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 03-Dec-2003 23:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (smithy):
>We might assume that their biggest asset would be AmigaOS, versions 1.0 - 3.1
> (is 3.5 & 3.9 owned by Haage & Partner?)

Indeed. This could be very interesting. Supposing somebody was to buy up the name, along with the rights for AmigaOS 3.x after AInc dies, they would (presumably) also get the right to further development of AmigaOS, so we could be in a position of another "Official" AmigaOS 4 being developed, in addition to Hyperion's one.

Hyperion may have to change the name of their OS (Maybe "Hyperion OS4" or something) to avoid conflicting with the new owners. It would be a difficult time for the "name" followers - do they ditch HyperionOS and go with the new "NameOS" because it's "Official" and "Based on the 3.x source code" and has the "name"? Or do they stand by Hyperion?
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 49 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 03-Dec-2003 23:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Atheist2):
Lol! "Amiga Deathbed Vigil #4.0", get the whole series... It's just like how "Final Fantasy" keeps not being the last one. "The Grim Reaper" has his work cut out for him on this One! Well, all will fall into SOME place soon. I wonder what the oddsmakers in Las Vegas are offering. ;-)

Hmmm, Genesi's new offices are in North Las Vegas... {hear gerbils on noisey treadmills in some minds thinking of BBRV conspiracy with Elvis and Howard Hughes to do Amiga Inc in ; }
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 50 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Bodie on 04-Dec-2003 00:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Lando):
"It would be a difficult time for the "name" followers - do they ditch HyperionOS and go with the new "NameOS" because it's "Official" and "Based on the 3.x source code" and has the "name"? Or do they stand by Hyperion?"

Personally, I would stick with Hyperion. Don't really give a damn what the OS is called so long as I get it.
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