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Posted on 03-Dec-2003 04:47 GMT by Rich Woods (Edited on 2003-12-03 08:45:21 GMT by Christian Kemp)128 comments
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ORDER CONTINUING 31 Plaintiffs' MOTION for Summary Judgment by Judge Robert S. Lasnik. Defendant's request for an extension of time to respond to plaintiff's motion is granted in part. Plaintiffs' motion is renoted for 12/12/2003. Any opposition is due no later than 4:30 p.m. on Monday, December 8, 2003. Any reply is due not later than 4:30 p.m. on Thursday, December 11, 2003. (KERR, ) (Entered: 12/02/2003)

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Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 51 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Dec-2003 00:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Lando):
> It would be a difficult time for the "name" followers - do they ditch
> HyperionOS and go with the new "NameOS" because it's "Official" and "Based on
> the 3.x source code" and has the "name"? Or do they stand by Hyperion?

They might go with MorphOS4 because it's "official" and has "the name", but not because it's "Based on the 3.x source code" (unless Bill does a 180 and confesses, when there's no legal danger, that they did use 3.1 sources and MOS is not "clean room")
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 52 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Bodie on 04-Dec-2003 00:45 GMT
According to my sources, amiga is being bought by Ivory Coast investors























:P
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 53 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 04-Dec-2003 00:46 GMT
WOW, that's great stuff Rich, keep up the good work, and don't let these naysayers get you down.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 54 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by MIKE on 04-Dec-2003 00:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Amon_Re):
Well, MorphOS could be renamed AmigaOS4, that should make you happy right? HyperionOS can be called HyperOS or something, and they can buy a license from Genesi to have it run on Amiga Badged Pegasos (if it passes the strict Q&A testing of course).
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 55 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by das on 04-Dec-2003 01:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Rich Woods):
huh
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 56 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by ANONYMOUSFREEDOM on 04-Dec-2003 01:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (das):
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I'm using an anonymous proxy server from poland, so now I can say whatever I want.

YESSSSSSSSS
NOW you are going to get it.
You'll hear all.

ahem.
mmmm...

hmmmm...

OK WELL FUDGE
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 57 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 04-Dec-2003 01:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Gregg):
AmigaOS had some wonderful ideas, but it is also woefully behind the times now. I think the compatibility with ancient apps is not as important anymore, even if it truly did need some in order to establish itself as the successor to the amiga legacy.

But now, we need to see innovation, while having some features that all OS's should have and the market takes for granted.

And thats hard, even irix has a port of openoffice.org. a port of Gimp. a port of imagemagicks, etc. etc.

The market has changed, and people expect to have a lot of apps as bog standard. AmigaOS or MorphOS has to have all that, just to be a boring, uninteresting also-ran.

After that, the fun begins.

But I think the good news is, that we can have all those things, and go back to innovating and being leading edge, because the Amiga community can rally around innovation and is not as beholden to old ideas.

I don't really care about the MorphOS/HyperionOS feud, because its this community that is the important thing. And if neither of those groups embrace the community, then maybe it'll just be AROS instead.

But I think to a certain extent there has been an outreach by Genesi towards the community and we can see the community starting to rally.

If my some impossible to imagine scenario, Hyperion wanted to sell their work on os4 to Genesi, and Genesi wanted to buy it, and it became the foundation for MorphOS, or was still called AmigaOS, I think that would be just great.

Both OS's...I've never seen OS 4, but they both seem to be about the same level, so I don't think it really matters. The vast majority of the work hasn't begun yet...

But I have a very real sense of optimism and hope that the work is about to begin.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 58 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Dec-2003 02:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (ANONYMOUSFREEDOM):
Uuh, yeah. Knock yourself out :)
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 59 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 04-Dec-2003 02:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (greenboy):
Posted by greenboy (Trusted user) on 04-Dec-2003 00:54:401

In Reply to Comment 17 (Atheist2):
Lol! "Amiga Deathbed Vigil #4.0", get the whole series... It's just like how "Final Fantasy" keeps not being the last one. "The Grim Reaper" has his work cut out for him on this One! Well, all will fall into SOME place soon. I wonder what the oddsmakers in Las Vegas are offering. ;-)

Hmmm, Genesi's new offices are in North Las Vegas... {hear gerbils on noisey treadmills in some minds thinking of BBRV conspiracy with Elvis and Howard Hughes to do Amiga Inc in ; }
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PLEASE don't disparage Howard.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 60 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 04-Dec-2003 02:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (MarkTime):
Posted by MarkTime (68.53.19.235) on 04-Dec-2003 01:46:061

WOW, that's great stuff Rich, keep up the good work, and don't let these naysayers get you down.
---------------
F "em. They really don't bother me - most know nothing of what they talk about.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 61 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Dec-2003 04:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Amon_Re):
>Genesi terminating AOS4, where's my tomahawk? Why, OS4 would be obsolete. The M in MorphOS stands for aMiga spirit. ;-PThey will see there is absolutely no reason they splitted the market andmake a competing OS just to bullsh1te Genesi. MOS could have be much moreadvanced by now if they decided to work for something rather than against,the MOS was running 2 years earlier on Classic Amiga independend HW already!Yes, make MorphOS the next AmigaOS so Hyperion won't have an excuse to notbeing able to port games to this platform. Pegasos with upcoming G5 is muchcooler than AmigaOne and doesn't cost an arm and a leg so there will be moremoney available to buy software which generally benefits the market (includingHyperion!). Maybe this way the virtual-coupon holders will actually get backtheir investments, too.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 62 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Dec-2003 04:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Anonymous):
Actually, Hyperion makes very little money from the Amiga market, it's mostly Mac ports and the Teron BIOS. They support the Amiga becaue they want to, not because of any money they might make out of it. I can pretty much guarantee that if Bill Buck kills OS4, they will be so pissed off that they will drop out of the Amiga scene entirely. Who's THAT going to benefit?

(cue some Genesi toadie: "we don't need those losers! we got us the PHOENIX consortium!")
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 63 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Mr. Anonymous (Trusted User) on 04-Dec-2003 04:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Anonymous):
yes, yes, yes. and P is for Pirate. The N in Amiga, Inc is for nitwit.
Wake me up when one of them is on the level of MacOS.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 64 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 04-Dec-2003 08:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Gregg):
You raise some good points, and yes, if that scenario would come to arise, i would hope they let hyperion continue on AOS4.

After all, it wouldn't cost them anything, but binning AOS & renaming MOS to AOS would make me quite unhappy.

But then again, this is all speculation, and i don't really like to do that

Cheers
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 65 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 04-Dec-2003 08:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Lando):
I'll stand by Hyperion

Cheers
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 66 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 04-Dec-2003 08:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 54 (MIKE):
That wouldn't make me happy, that would make me buy hyperOS, like i said so many times already, i don't give a flying crap about the name or MOS.

Cheers
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 67 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 04-Dec-2003 08:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Anonymous):
Read my reply to MIKE, i DO NOT WANT MOS, it's as simple as that.

Cheers
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 68 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 04-Dec-2003 08:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (Anonymous):
That seems very likely yea

Cheers
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 69 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Atheist2 on 04-Dec-2003 08:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Lando):
Hi Lando,
=======================
> Indeed. This could be very interesting. Supposing somebody was to buy up the name, along with the rights for AmigaOS 3.x after AInc dies, they would (presumably) also get the right to further development of AmigaOS, so we could be in a position of another "Official" AmigaOS 4 being developed, in addition to Hyperion's one.

Hyperion may have to change the name of their OS (Maybe "Hyperion OS4" or something) to avoid conflicting with the new owners. It would be a difficult time for the "name" followers - do they ditch HyperionOS and go with the new "NameOS" because it's "Official" and "Based on the 3.x source code" and has the "name"? Or do they stand by Hyperion?
=======================


Yeah, let's see, Genesi buys Amiga Inc. for $5 million. They pay their bills, themselves, then pocket that nice "difference". :-DD

Then fly over to Germany and invest in the successor to AOS4.0, Hyperion Entertainment's OS, ____________ << insert name! :-DDD


AOS4+.x! Inevitable!!!! :-D
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 70 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Dec-2003 09:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 69 (Atheist2):
Yeah, let's see, [x] buys Amiga Inc. for $5 million.

you made a typo, somehow a 'million' slipped in there. otoh i spose it could be that you intended '$' to signify turkish lira...
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 71 of 128ANN.lu
Message removed by Christian Kemp for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Impersonation
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 72 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Gregg on 04-Dec-2003 12:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 67 (Amon_Re):
Not trying to pick a fight, but you seem to be pretty inconsistent here : you claim that you don't care what Amiga OS is called, but you reject MorphOS. Given that, in an alternate universe (admittedly one far, far away), MorphOS would have been AOS4, why do you reject it? Assuming you acknowledge that technically at least MorphOS is sound, the only justification I can see for making a distinction is that the underlying OS mechanisms (i.e. not being directly based on the original Exec and co.) are not "Amiga". I'm not up to an extended technical debate about the various OS merits, but this concept seems a fairly tenuous basis for your convictions.

Or am I missing the point?

Gregg
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 73 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Jack on 04-Dec-2003 12:52 GMT
IAmiga Inc going bankrupt will be the best day in Amiga history and must be toasted, we must target Eyetech and Hyperion next and lets finish them off once and for all, or to hurt Hyperion i would suggest pirating their software to give them no money for their work.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 74 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Michael Steffan on 04-Dec-2003 12:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 73 (Jack):
When OS4 comes out i will by a second hand AmigaONE and download OS4 because i will not support those idiots from Hyperion, i hope once OS4 is out they will get hardly any funds it will destory them and they will leave the Amiga market.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 75 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 04-Dec-2003 13:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (Michael Steffan):
Give it up already...
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 76 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Virgil on 04-Dec-2003 14:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Rich Woods):
Because of workload issues it is not uncommon for Summary Judgements to be overturned on appeal. Don't bury the dog before it has died.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 77 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Dec-2003 14:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (Michael Steffan):
Onlyone who should leave Amiga is you. Would you please leave us now.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 78 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Dec-2003 14:44 GMT
One thing is tru. If Genesi and MOS fanatics manage to kill Hyperion, Eyetech and/or OS4 development, I will NEVER buy any Genesi product or nothing which has word Pegasos or MorphoS in it. NEVER.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 79 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Dec-2003 14:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (Anonymous):
I think lot's of users too will be so pissed off thet they will leave Amiga community. Who's THAT going to benefit?
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 80 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Norrin_Radd on 04-Dec-2003 15:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 73 (Jack):
It's _your_ stupid opinion...

Sometimes I really wonder why there is so much hate against Amiga Inc, Eyetech and Hyperion.
You like Pegasos/MOS? Ok, buy & support Pegasos/MOS!!
I like AmigaOne/AmigaOs, so i'm thinkin to buy & support AmigaOne/AmigaOs!

What's the problem?

P.S.:
> we must target Eyetech and Hyperion next
Relax, this is not a war....
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 81 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 04-Dec-2003 15:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (Norrin_Radd):
Ignore them.. they are fishing...
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 82 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Stephane Desrosiers on 04-Dec-2003 15:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (Norrin_Radd):
> Sometimes I really wonder why there is so much hate against Amiga Inc, Eyetech
> and Hyperion.

To be honest, not everyone is like that. :)

Figuring that the first time I actually tried and bought a Hyperion product was once I actually got my Peg+MOS system. :) I've got Hyperion's Quake II and Freespace ports. I'm debating on Heretic II at the moment.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 83 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Tigger on 04-Dec-2003 16:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 76 (Virgil):
>>>
Because of workload issues it is not uncommon for Summary Judgements to be overturned on appeal. Don't bury the dog before it has died
>>>

I dont know where you got that Virgil. None of the current Summary Judgements against Amiga Inc can be overturned, and given how this case has gone, and the likely result in 8 days, there will be no basis for overturning this Summary Judgement.
-Tig
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 84 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by minator on 04-Dec-2003 16:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 78 (Anonymous):
>One thing is tru. If Genesi and MOS fanatics manage to kill Hyperion, Eyetech
>and/or OS4 development, I will NEVER buy any Genesi product or nothing
>which has word Pegasos or MorphoS in it. NEVER.

If Genesi were to get Amiga's assets.
Thats a very big if.

But if we did I for one would want Hyperion to continue OS4, but with a few conditions:

1 Change the name
2 Pegasos support
3 A license fee (nothing excessive).
4 Probably something on compatibility with MOS

Note: That is my *personal* opinion only (and liable to change at whim).

BBRV will be the people to make any decision IF the rights were to be aquired.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 85 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Virgil on 04-Dec-2003 16:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 83 (Tigger):
Upon appeal of the "Summary Judgement" the dockets are so full so to speak that rather than deal with any further business they just overturn it period. Refer to; Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It's on the Net. If, Amiga Inc. can mount an appeal of the "Summary Judgement".. that is.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 86 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Dec-2003 17:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (minator):
> 1 Change the name
> 2 Pegasos support
> 3 A license fee (nothing excessive).
> 4 Probably something on compatibility with MOS

2 and 4 they would probably willingly do, they've already said many times the reason they're not doing it right now is that Amiga Inc and Genesi can't agree on the licensing. 3 is just plain dumb. Why would Hyperion pay for something THEY wrote? especially if they change the name, as you suggest in 1. Are genesi now going to start charging an "AmigaOS Compatible API" tax? What would this do to AROS?
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 87 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 04-Dec-2003 19:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 76 (Virgil):
Posted by Virgil (209.128.195.23) on 04-Dec-2003 15:31:021

In Reply to Comment 1 (Rich Woods):
Because of workload issues it is not uncommon for Summary Judgements to be overturned on appeal. Don't bury the dog before it has died.
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Why do you think Judge Lasnik is giving Amiga EVERY opportunity to present its case?

Try looking up how many cases Judge Lasnik has had overturned on appeal.

BTW - how can Amiga appeal if they have no lawyers? And it IS uncommon to have a judgement overturned - a very small percentage of the amount of cases.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 88 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 04-Dec-2003 19:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 76 (Virgil):
Posted by Virgil (209.128.195.23) on 04-Dec-2003 15:31:021

In Reply to Comment 1 (Rich Woods):
Because of workload issues it is not uncommon for Summary Judgements to be overturned on appeal. Don't bury the dog before it has died.
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Another thing - at this point in time what grounds do you see that Amiga has for mounting an appeal?

LEGAL grounds - not some baseless I think that or whatever. Appeals are granted on the EVIDENCE ALREADY PRESENTED (like the very docs that are available) - not on new evidence.

But since you seem to have such a grasp on the law - you already know that.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 89 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Alpha on 04-Dec-2003 20:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (Michael Steffan):
> When OS4 comes out i will by a second hand AmigaONE and download OS4

Why would you need to download it? Why wouldn't the secondhand A1 already come with OS4?
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 90 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Atheist2 on 04-Dec-2003 23:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 89 (Alpha):
Insert dagger; twist handle?!!!
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 91 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Atheist2 on 04-Dec-2003 23:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (minator):
Hi minator,

==================
> If Genesi were to get Amiga's assets.
> Thats a very big if.
>
> But if we did I for one would want Hyperion to continue OS4, but with a few > conditions:
>
> 3 A license fee (nothing excessive).
>
> Note: That is my *personal* opinion only (and liable to change at whim).
==================

At the risk of changing your opinion, I'll give you $4.50 for a copy of AOS4.0, then.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 92 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Virgil on 05-Dec-2003 15:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (Rich Woods):
Judge Lasnik's predication is to our speculation and Thendic's and is speculative on Thendics part obviously. My argument is; Don't bury the dog until it's dead.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 93 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Tigger on 05-Dec-2003 16:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 92 (Virgil):
>>>>
Judge Lasnik's predication is to our speculation and Thendic's and is speculative on Thendics part obviously. My argument is; Don't bury the dog until it's dead.
>>>>
Man, I need my Virgilese to English dictionary for that one. The issue is that none of the current summary judgements against them are reversible because neither Amiga Inc nor its representatives (Lawyers) showed up for the case. You cant not show up for a court case and then decide to appeal the verdict later. There isnt a way for Bill to get a reversal on those cases, and given McEwen doesnt have a lawyer yet, if that isnt changed by the 12th, Lasnik will find for Thendic and Amiga Inc will not be able to appeal it.
-Tig
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 94 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Virgil on 05-Dec-2003 17:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 93 (Tigger):
The relevant word here is " if ". Until the 12th., the dog is still alive.
Judge Lansky could suffer a heart attack etc., etc.

To what extent is there a risk that the determination of the preliminary issue could lead to an application for the Pleadings being ammended so as to avoid the consquences of the determination? It would be very hard to deprive a party of the opportunity to amend when that amendment would keep the claim alive. This form of judgement leaves itself open to challange under the Human Rights Act 2000 and the principles of what is just and fair must be carefully considered. .. Mr. Justice Neuberger.. Steele vs Steele.

Chances are however, slim to none, the dog is seriously ill. But, so is the future of the Amiga computer and operating system. The baby is being thrown out with the bath water.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 95 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 05-Dec-2003 19:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 92 (Virgil):
Posted by Virgil (209.128.195.1) on 05-Dec-2003 16:15:16

In Reply to Comment 88 (Rich Woods):
Judge Lasnik's predication is to our speculation and Thendic's and is speculative on Thendics part obviously. My argument is; Don't bury the dog until it's dead.
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And again you have NO IDEA OF THE LAW and how it applies.

And there is NO Judge Lasnik "prediction" - his court order is VERY clear - to everyone except you it seems.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 96 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 05-Dec-2003 19:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 93 (Tigger):
Posted by Tigger (143.116.116.200) on 05-Dec-2003 17:15:56

In Reply to Comment 92 (Virgil):
>>>>
Judge Lasnik's predication is to our speculation and Thendic's and is speculative on Thendics part obviously. My argument is; Don't bury the dog until it's dead.
>>>>
Man, I need my Virgilese to English dictionary for that one. The issue is that none of the current summary judgements against them are reversible because neither Amiga Inc nor its representatives (Lawyers) showed up for the case. You cant not show up for a court case and then decide to appeal the verdict later. There isnt a way for Bill to get a reversal on those cases, and given McEwen doesnt have a lawyer yet, if that isnt changed by the 12th, Lasnik will find for Thendic and Amiga Inc will not be able to appeal it.
-Tig
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That's it in a nutshell.
plainly put - no lawyer and motions filed by the 11th - they're FUCKED!
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 97 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 05-Dec-2003 19:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 93 (Tigger):
Posted by Tigger (143.116.116.200) on 05-Dec-2003 17:15:56

In Reply to Comment 92 (Virgil):
>>>>
Judge Lasnik's predication is to our speculation and Thendic's and is speculative on Thendics part obviously. My argument is; Don't bury the dog until it's dead.
>>>>
Man, I need my Virgilese to English dictionary for that one. The issue is that none of the current summary judgements against them are reversible because neither Amiga Inc nor its representatives (Lawyers) showed up for the case. You cant not show up for a court case and then decide to appeal the verdict later. There isnt a way for Bill to get a reversal on those cases, and given McEwen doesnt have a lawyer yet, if that isnt changed by the 12th, Lasnik will find for Thendic and Amiga Inc will not be able to appeal it.
-Tig
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A slight correction - there is NO summary judgement yet - that most likely will be ruled on and a court order given o the 12th of Dec.
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 98 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 05-Dec-2003 19:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 94 (Virgil):
Posted by Virgil (209.128.195.4) on 05-Dec-2003 18:32:10

In Reply to Comment 93 (Tigger):
The relevant word here is " if ". Until the 12th., the dog is still alive.
Judge Lansky could suffer a heart attack etc., etc.
------------------
Most likely billyboy will suffer a heart attack! "The funding is STILL around the corner!"

Man you are ONE BIG TROLL! It's over - accept it - the shit has hit the fan, the wall, and everything and everybody involved.
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To what extent is there a risk that the determination of the preliminary issue could lead to an application for the Pleadings being ammended so as to avoid the consquences of the determination? It would be very hard to deprive a party

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Nice try axxhole - there is NO lawyer for Amiga! Dec 12th the cae will be adjucated and decided and closed. This riiculous crap you post only shows how little you kNOW about law and the Federal court system.

BTW - this crap you post has ABSOLUTELY no standing in the current court case.
But you already knew that. If I am incorrect you better get in touch with Amiga's lawyers right now - opps - forgot - there is NO LAWYER of offical court record.

Well maybe get in touch with billyboy? Want his phone number and mailing adress? Home and PO Box address?

Shit or get off the pot!
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of the opportunity to amend when that amendment would keep the claim alive. This form of judgement leaves itself open to challange under the Human Rights Act 2000 and the principles of what is just and fair must be carefully considered. .. Mr. Justice Neuberger.. Steele vs Steele.
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Chances are however, slim to none, the dog is seriously ill. But, so is the future of the Amiga computer and operating system. The baby is being thrown out with the bath water.
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You're "legal analysis is so comforting! NOT!
Sheesh - what a fcking axxhole!
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 99 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 05-Dec-2003 19:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 94 (Virgil):
Posted by Virgil (209.128.195.4) on 05-Dec-2003 18:32:10

In Reply to Comment 93 (Tigger):
The relevant word here is " if ". Until the 12th., the dog is still alive.
Judge Lansky could suffer a heart attack etc., etc.
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Oh BTW - it is Judge Lasnik - NOT Lansky - nice proof you have NO IDEA what you are talking about.

yYu don't even know the Judge's correct NAME!
Thendic-Amiga Court Docs - 12/12/2003 - Last Day? : Comment 100 of 128ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 05-Dec-2003 19:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 94 (Virgil):
@virgil

So you are posting from sac1.calweb.com - is this Harv Laser using another account?

Is this someone from SAUG posting anonymously?

Tell us oh Virgil!
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