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Posted on 07-Dec-2003 21:14 GMT by Ryo Saeba109 comments
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Encyclopaedia Amigaca is a brand new initiative by WrongPlanet to document, record and catalogue the various species and sub-species of Amiga users. This first Edition evolved in a period of more than 12 years to the work that you can see now.

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Have fun! (I had. :)
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 1 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by 4pLaYeR on 07-Dec-2003 20:39 GMT
Hilarious :-)
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 2 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Dec-2003 21:06 GMT
It's got some good lines, however, using a picture of the Friedens to describe the "true amigans" and then going to say that "true amigans" are stupid, can't program, can't write well etc is downright insulting.

How would any of you like to be used as an example of what's wrong in the community?

Grow out of this noncence & get on with your lives, this red vs blue is downright pityfull.

Cheers
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 3 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by hesdeadjim on 07-Dec-2003 21:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Amon_Re):
Strange you picked up this as an example.
Well, rather than we get a life, you should get a sense of humour first maybe? :-)
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 4 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by smithy on 07-Dec-2003 21:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Amon_Re):
>It's got some good lines, however, using a picture of the Friedens to describe
>the "true amigans" and then going to say that "true amigans" are stupid, can't
>program, can't write well etc is downright insulting.

Don't be ridiculous!

What about the people pictured in the MorphOS species, with the article poking fun at them as well?! Do they matter less?
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 5 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by XraalE on 07-Dec-2003 21:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Amon_Re):
"then going to say that "true amigans" are stupid, can't program, can't write well etc is downright insulting."

Please go to AmigaWorld.net, and browse the forums for 30 minutes. Then come back and see if your statement still makes sense. :)
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 6 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Dec-2003 21:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (hesdeadjim):
I find it tasteless, i do have a sense of humor, a very good one even, but thinly disguised insults are still insults.

If they had used a pic of me eg, i wouldn't even have blinked, but using a picture of 2 of the best coders the amiga community still has is tasteless

Cheers
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 7 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Dec-2003 21:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (smithy):
Read the MOS part & then the AOS part, if you can't see the difference Smithy, then i'm sorry for you

Cheers
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 8 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Dec-2003 21:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (XraalE):
Like i said, anyone still involved with the community is an amigan, i don't use the term "true amigan", and if it were only aimed at AW.Net, i'd have shrugged it off, using a picture of the Friedens as an example for that kind of amigans, and then going on that they can't code, write or make logical assumptions is simply a thinly hidden insult.

But very well, 2 can play that game, if this is what you all love, i'll think of some insults for some prominent genesi people, wrap a semi humourous text arround it & post it on wrongpla.net & ann.lu, lets see how many will come & whine then.

(If you guys still don't have a clue what i'm talking about then you are sadder then i expected)

Cheers
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 9 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 07-Dec-2003 21:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Amon_Re):
@Amon_re

Agreed.

Sometimes I find wrongpla.net to be really funny, but I've got to say that a lot of it is simply insults thinly disguised as comedy.

I too found the pictures of the Friedens as pretty tasteless - I mean they don't even involve themselves in the usual mud-slinging.

Cheers, Ian
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 10 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 07-Dec-2003 21:29 GMT
Hmm. Speaking as a literate, intelligent, professional software enginner, who is looking forward to OS4, I feel a little left out that there was no listing on there for me. Oh well.
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 11 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by hesdeadjim on 07-Dec-2003 21:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Amon_Re):
Problem with a picture of you would have been, that nobody knows you.
The Friedens of the Friedens is quite appropriate at that they are a symbol for all what True Amigans follow and are about.

And then again, to remind you: WP is not about politics and it would be nice if people could stop to desperately try to drag WP into any such direction to please their agendas.
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 12 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by XraalE on 07-Dec-2003 21:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Amon_Re):
"But very well, 2 can play that game, if this is what you all love, i'll think of some insults for some prominent genesi people, wrap a semi humourous text arround it & post it on wrongpla.net & ann.lu, lets see how many will come & whine then."

Go ahead and try it, but I doubt it would be funny because there aren't many lines of criticism open towards Genesi. Pegasos 2 is late, Pegasos 1 is buggy, MorphOS is still in beta, and erm, uh, hmm... Wow, that was funny! Great satire...! Not.

But then we look at the other camps, the 'Red Side' in particular, and the opportunities for satire come thick and fast. If its not Hermans making incredibly lame excuses and attacks, its some idiot demanding 64bit x86 for the next AmigaONE or saying something equally stupid.

So unless that changes, I can't see satire being anything less than biased against the 'Red Side'. Otherwise it wouldn't be satire.
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 13 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 07-Dec-2003 21:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (hesdeadjim):
>> The Friedens of the Friedens is quite appropriate at that they are a symbol for all what True Amigans follow and are about.

So effectively, you are actually saying that the friedens ARE stupid and can't code?!

Or didn't you mean that... ;-)

Ian
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 14 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 07-Dec-2003 21:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (XraalE):
>> But then we look at the other camps, the 'Red Side' in particular, and the opportunities for satire come thick and fast. If its not Hermans making incredibly lame excuses and attacks, <SNIP>

Okay, now change "Red" for "Blue" and "Hermans" for "Bill Buck"...

Cheers,
Ian
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 15 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 07-Dec-2003 21:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Amon_Re):
Stop whining and laugh!
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 16 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by hesdeadjim on 07-Dec-2003 21:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (IanS):
No, it wasn't meant to mean that. It says "what True Amigans follow", it does not say that the Friedens are True Amigans (as in the term created by WP).
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 17 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by XraalE on 07-Dec-2003 21:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (IanS):
"Okay, now change "Red" for "Blue" and "Hermans" for "Bill Buck"..."

No, because that's not funny.
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 18 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 07-Dec-2003 21:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (XraalE):
And your statement was?

Cheers,
Ian
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 19 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 07-Dec-2003 21:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (hesdeadjim):
So why not a picture of a "true amigan" instead, like on all the other descriptions...

Either you're saying the friends are "True Amigans" or their picture shouldn't be on there! (But just call me a pedant :-D)

Good work on the rest of the article though, pretty funny by the usual standards! :)

Cheers,
Ian
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 20 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 07-Dec-2003 21:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (IanS):
His statement was funny.
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 21 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 07-Dec-2003 21:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Kolbjørn Barmen):
Okay, if you say so...

Cheers,
Ian
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 22 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by smithy on 07-Dec-2003 22:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Amon_Re):
>If they had used a pic of me eg, i wouldn't even have blinked, but using a
>picture of 2 of the best coders the amiga community still has is tasteless

2 of the best coders????? What have they released so far? Have they written anything aside from OS4?
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 23 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Dec-2003 22:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (XraalE):
I got no problem with satire, hell, i love brittish humor alot, but the picture of the Friedens was *inappropriate*, that's *all* that i'm saying.

Besides, i don't even need to use the things you mentioned to be insulting towards some groups inhere, just sling some durt in the direction of the person i'm targetting & rap it up in a way that's almost funny.

Cheers
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 24 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Dec-2003 22:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (itix):
Tell a good joke then :)

Cheers
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 25 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Dec-2003 22:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (hesdeadjim):
Are you SamuraiJack? Dunno, but to me it looks like it's implying that the Friedens are also "true amigans" to use that term, and as such the text would apply to them.

Cheers
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 26 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Dec-2003 22:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (smithy):
Someone smack smithy over the head for me please? You have *got* to be kidding me right?

Cheers
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 27 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 07-Dec-2003 22:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (smithy):
Oh get a clue smithy, please.
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 28 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by rainbow on 07-Dec-2003 22:34 GMT
What is cracking me up totally is "red side"'s reaction on that frieden photo and comments.
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 29 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by the man in the shadows on 07-Dec-2003 23:15 GMT
While I will admit it was a damn good attempt at humor... but it was rather lacking and one-sided to say the very least. Good all the same, but not something to write home about.
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 30 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by SlimJim on 07-Dec-2003 23:17 GMT
I thought it was funny, some of it was even bordering on witty.

It's a massive bias in the jokes concerning the "two sides" though. Red trolls
the 'scum of the earth', the blue trolls an 'elite group', huh? I don't consider
myself part of either group, but to claim "Wrong Planet is not about politics"
is kinda funny all in itself.

I didn't see any picture of the Friedens though. The monkey with a boing ball
was probably much funnier a picture. Replacing the MOS-picture with a bunch of
naked loons chasing butterflies on a meadow would give some more class and
balance to the satire, I'd say.
.
SlimJim
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 31 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 07-Dec-2003 23:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (SlimJim):
LOL!

That monkey picture IS funny! :D
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 32 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Dec-2003 23:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (SlimJim):
The picture is replaced, and it's much better this way, now i can rest easilly now :)

Cheers
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 33 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Dec-2003 23:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (rainbow):
Well sorry for sticking my neck out for my friends then

Cheers
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 34 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Seehund on 07-Dec-2003 23:57 GMT
"Connection refused."
Dang. I'll have to make do with that other funny site, if I can remember its URL now that the link is gone. ;)
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 35 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 08-Dec-2003 00:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Seehund):
Wow, you mean they had a link to:

Amigaworld.net here before?!

Aw come on it was a joke ;-)

Cheers,
Ian
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 36 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Dec-2003 00:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (IanS):
cool, dood! hey ian, let's post hidden goatse.cx links too... i mean this is just a trash site we can abuse all we want, especially when it's about evil dissidents like seahund, and then run crying to mommy@aincsword.nut complaining about all the evil trolls out there...

the rest of you - don't click ian's link if you're at work or something...
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 37 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Seehund on 08-Dec-2003 00:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (IanS):
I wouldn't forget the URL to my own site! :)

(At-work-warning: Despite initial similarities, you'll discover that the site Ian linked to is not actually aw.net) :P
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 38 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 08-Dec-2003 03:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Anonymous):
you too have goatse.cx as a startpage?
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 39 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Ronald St-Maurice on 08-Dec-2003 04:06 GMT
It's very hilarious. And some of you people even fit those profiles... ;)
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 40 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 08-Dec-2003 09:03 GMT
it's clear thie article is favourable to MOS users... As a MOS user, I don't mind because I think it's quite true :p
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 41 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Daniel Miller on 08-Dec-2003 09:53 GMT
This stuff is really funny! I would say to Amon_Re and IanS that they should get a sense of humour and not be so thin-skinned! Face it guys, the reason "True Amigans" feel skewered by this humour is not because it's inaccurate!

There were 7 or 8 pages too, all funny, why you want to go off and ham it up with being so offended by a joke. We should be happy this community has some talented satirists!

Great job WrongPla.net crew!
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 42 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 08-Dec-2003 09:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Seehund):
@Moderators, Seehund and Anonymous

Sorry, it was meant as a joke. Apologies if it caused anyone any undue embarassment ;-)

Cheers,
Ian
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 43 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 08-Dec-2003 10:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Daniel Miller):
@Daniel Miller

Nah, you've got me all wrong! I did think it was funny, i just didn't think it was a great idea to use the Friedens as examples of "True Amigans", no matter how veiled the insults!

Anyway the picture's changed now so no harm done, and I've got to say this article is pretty good. :-)

Cheers,
Ian
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 44 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 08-Dec-2003 10:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Daniel Miller):
Read my comments again, i'm not thin skinned, i took offence at the picture of the Friedens being used, wich was replaced afterwards,

The article as it is now is quite funny, yes

Cheers
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 45 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 08-Dec-2003 10:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Amon_Re):
You could/should have handled this in private... rather than drawing attention to it though.
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 46 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Trizt on 08-Dec-2003 10:47 GMT
IMHO it was a really good one, and it was nice to see that everyone was kikced in the ass. I don't think that was far from how outsiders to the Amiga community thinks about ous, there is a bad war going and it won't give anything possitive.
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 47 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 08-Dec-2003 10:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (Trizt):
The Amiga War... the Amiga Holy War, is just like the Holy War of the Cats in Red Dwarf....

I await the return of Cloister...
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 48 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 08-Dec-2003 11:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Matt Parsons):
Perhaps that would've been better, perhaps not, anyway, it's in the past already.

Cheers
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 49 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Alan LM Buxey on 08-Dec-2003 13:23 GMT
FANTASTIC NEWS!

In some recent file studies, several counts of Original Amigans (Amigum Sapiens Sapiens) have been found!

This species was thought to be extinct! indeed, a recent article highlighting
the large diverse Amigan species [Wrong Planet] had this sub-species closed.

The population density is very very low. indeed, we estimate that there are perhaps only a few in the UK isles and only a dozen on mainland Europe.
Isolated individuals may be isolated on the other world continents.

Unfortunately their density may be too low to allow for any continuation of
this species, even if they are using the internet to communicate to each other.
Their main method of direct contact used to be annual Amiga shows and monthly printed magazines. The other sub-species can use internet to communicate
far more successfully

Alan
Encyclopaedia Amigaca published : Comment 50 of 109ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Dec-2003 14:30 GMT
Stop the PRESS!!

Amigum Elitis Morphus Superior, also known as Bill Buck, has found out, after many hours of IP tracing and IRC'ing who's behind wrongpla.net.

In a very civil and informative exchange of emails, the webmasters were convinced of the suprimacy of the Amigum Elitis Morphus Superior race and were offered a job and given a Pegasos for free. After feeling very flattered by this offer, they decided to adopt Amigum Elitis Morphus Superior's very known self-idolatry resulting in a bias towards that race while discrimination is strictly illegal.

"This is utterly nonsense", said their spokesman, "We remain totally neutral and unbiased just like Amiga.org, ANN.lu and MorphOS-news.de and morphzone.org."

Sceptics count the days until the first censorship of Amigum Scatologica Fanatica will be a fact.
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