21-Oct-2019 05:24 GMT.
UNDER CONSTRUCTION
Anonymous, there are 9 items in your selection
[Web] TV-Computer convergence (or lack thereof)ANN.lu
Posted on 10-Dec-2003 10:26 GMT by minator9 comments
View flat
View list
I've written an article on the convergence of computing and TVs (or SetTopBoxes) Here.

How ironic though - The Amiga's custom hardware would have made it perfect for this purpose, yet some STBs still can't match it even today.

TV-Computer convergence (or lack thereof) : Comment 1 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 10-Dec-2003 10:01 GMT
"How ironic though - The Amiga's custom hardware would have made it perfect for this purpose, yet some STBs still can't match it even today."

The Amiga custom chips are limited to the old PAL and NTSC resolutions, which are way below what is needed for a convergence device that is to display HDTV and the web.

IMO the main problem for convergence devices is the heat output from CPUs and GPUs, with the resulting fan noise.
TV-Computer convergence (or lack thereof) : Comment 2 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by Crumb // AAT on 10-Dec-2003 10:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Don Cox):
Ey Don! you are forgetting 31Khz modes...
TV-Computer convergence (or lack thereof) : Comment 3 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 10-Dec-2003 10:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Crumb // AAT):
Most good TVs nowadays have built in scan doublers.
TV-Computer convergence (or lack thereof) : Comment 4 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 10-Dec-2003 14:00 GMT
Well Yes, how ever you canít run good quality divx films on an old Amiga500 or Amiga1200 on your TV,
TV-Computer convergence (or lack thereof) : Comment 5 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by Olegil on 10-Dec-2003 14:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Crumb // AAT):
HDTV isn't about higher scanrates, it's about higher resolutions.

It's still the same old 48/50/60 KHz (NTSC-FILM,PAL, NTSC) interlaced being used, just with a lot more pixels/lines. Ok, so that's not entirely true. You get progressive as well :-)

What 99% of the people here (seems to) fail to realize is that with 2$ worth of electronics, the output of any PCI/AGP graphics card can be fed to an analog HDTV display, given the right driver software. XFree86 and P96 are defined as "the right software" here.

Don't tell me AGA is better than V3, Radeon or MGA when it comes to producing high quality output.

Imagine Workbench on a 1080p HDTV device ;-) (that's 1920x1080 non-interlaced). 148.5MHz dot-clock, quite reachable on even my A1200 with a V3.

There's nothing that says the same output couldn't drive PAL and NTSC equally well as an Amiga either.
TV-Computer convergence (or lack thereof) : Comment 6 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by Olegil on 10-Dec-2003 14:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Olegil):
Hz, not kHz

BADA boom :-)
TV-Computer convergence (or lack thereof) : Comment 7 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by minator on 10-Dec-2003 14:57 GMT
Erm, some folks are getting the wrong end of the stick...

What I meant was some STBs - and by this I mean low end boxes - which now number in the millions - don't have accelerated 2D graphics. I'm not comparing them to HDTV STBs which are still pretty rare.

>Imagine Workbench on a 1080p HDTV device ;-) (that's 1920x1080 non-interlaced).
>148.5MHz dot-clock, quite reachable on even my A1200 with a V3.

I seen a TV which can actually handle that resolution at CES, the only one at the time.
Amazing quality, nothing in Europe even comes close :-(
TV-Computer convergence (or lack thereof) : Comment 8 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 10-Dec-2003 16:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Don Cox):
Don wrote - 'IMO the main problem for convergence devices is the heat output from CPUs and GPUs, with the resulting fan noise.
'

Technologies such as liquid cooling or heat pipes could be used to cool CPUs/GPU's w/o the need for fans. Making for a cool system. See http://www.voodoopc.com/systems/f50.aspx where they have a Radeon 9800XT video card and AMD64 3200+ plus cooled by heatpipes creating a silent system.
TV-Computer convergence (or lack thereof) : Comment 9 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 10-Dec-2003 16:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (minator):
Minator wrote, referring to 1080p, - 'I seen a TV which can actually handle that resolution at CES, the only one at the time'..

You are correct. Most HDTV's display 720p or 1080i. DLP and LCD tend to be 720p output while CRT tend to be 1080i output (less quality).

My Samsung HLN5065W has a VGA input so when the AmigaOne with AOS4 isready to roll I'm ready for it. The WinXP/ Nvidia 4200 card looks very nice on that HDTV set.
Anonymous, there are 9 items in your selection
Back to Top