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[Files] Version 4.22 of the MorphOS native CygnusED (CED) is now availableANN.lu
Posted on 15-Dec-2003 07:06 GMT by CED rules 4ever (Edited on 2003-12-15 15:00:09 GMT by Christian Kemp)28 comments
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Version 4.22 of the MorphOS native CygnusED (CED) is now available. Changes since initial release:

Requesting AMIGAGuideĀ© Help by pressing the HELP key caused a crash.
Current directory is now correct if launched from WB.
The -keepio and -sticky arguments now work properly.
Printing shouldn't crash anymore.

Changes since last update:

Ported MetaMac and RecoverCEDFiles.
Fixed printing, it was still broken.
Fixed macro loading/saving.

CygnusED Professional 4.22 PPC
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 15-Dec-2003 06:09 GMT
The best just got better.
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Posted by Jope on 15-Dec-2003 06:21 GMT
But do I need to have the original CED package in order to be able to use this?
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Posted by Rich Woods on 15-Dec-2003 06:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (hooligan/dcs):
Yep - the default "word processing" program I use for almost everything.

Classics never die....
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Posted by xaffod on 15-Dec-2003 11:14 GMT
Will there be an OS4 version of CygnusED?

Or will I have to port my favorite WordStar-clone?
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 15-Dec-2003 11:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (xaffod):
MOS native port probably means they have the sourcecode.. so unless it's released for free of use, I'd guess they have exclusive.

Could someone who knows about it come forward?
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Posted by Ray A. Akey on 15-Dec-2003 12:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (hooligan/dcs):
Olaf Barthel is the "maintainer" of CED. It's very possible he was contracted to do a port if this particular release is "MOS-only." As for exclusive, that would be rather silly of Olaf as a coder, IMO, and to be honest doesn't sound like something he'd do.

But then, maybe someone more "in the know" can give us the "skinny" on this. :)
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 15-Dec-2003 12:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Ray A. Akey):
Yeah I was just speculating.. thinking out loud :)
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Posted by Nicolas Sallin on 15-Dec-2003 12:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Ray A. Akey):
The first MorphOS version of CygnusEd was released more than 3 years
ago.
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Posted by itix on 15-Dec-2003 13:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Ray A. Akey):
Hmm.. aren't Olaf's Roadshow exclusive for Hyperion? :)
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Posted by Kronos on 15-Dec-2003 13:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (itix):
Not AFAIK ...

He isn't allowed to release an 68k-version before OS4 appears (thats
what I heard).
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Posted by Anonymous on 15-Dec-2003 14:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Ray A. Akey):
As silly as the exclusive PPC version of Roadshow. Olaf is really silly as you say.
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Posted by Shaft on 15-Dec-2003 15:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Ray A. Akey):
As for exclusive, that would be rather silly of Olaf as a coder, IMO, and to be honest doesn't sound like something he'd do.

Excuse me?! Are you always this nice and polite to people who are devoted to AmigaOS? Do you even know how much time, effort and energy Olaf 'Olsen' Barthel has given the AmigaOS platform? I suggest you get your facts right before insulting people like this! I find comments like your highly offensive!
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Posted by Anonymous on 15-Dec-2003 17:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (hooligan/dcs):
> MOS native port probably means they have the sourcecode..

I always thought CED was written in assembler and not in C?
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 15-Dec-2003 17:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Anonymous):
Yeah, in -87 :)
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Posted by Olegil on 15-Dec-2003 18:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Shaft):
I can't really see your point.
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Posted by Ray A. Akey on 15-Dec-2003 20:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Shaft):
" Excuse me?! Are you always this nice and polite to people who are devoted to AmigaOS? Do you even know how much time, effort and energy Olaf 'Olsen' Barthel has given the AmigaOS platform? I suggest you get your facts right before insulting people like this! I find comments like your highly offensive!"

Olaf and I have no problem with each other. We have dialoged as Amiga employees/contractors on more than one occasion. If you find my opinion insulting, then you shouldn't be reading ANN as 99% of the comments here are *far* more "insulting" than mine, which I don't consider insulting whatsoever.

Now that that's out of the way, my comments stand. To wit:

It would be "silly" because I'm sure Olaf wants to keep open the possibility of as many revenue streams as possible for his hard work. As a software developer myself, I would keep that door open.
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Posted by Olaf Barthel on 16-Dec-2003 07:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Ray A. Akey):
I didn't do the MorphOS port (Ralph Schmidt and Frank Mariak took care of that)
and CygnusEd is not exclusively licensed to run on MorphOS. The code in its current
form is still owned by Bruce Dawson, with the subsequent changes following the 3.5+
release being mine. That CygnusEd was ported to MorphOS can be attributed to the
fact that Ralph, Frank and me have known each other for a long time and because I
didn't see much of a reason to deny Ralph's request to work on a port. Let me remind
you that the original MorphOS port is more than two years old, when the relationship
between Amiga and the budding MorphOS project was still very different. It's just
that the development over time has led all of us to this strange situation in which
just about everybody seems to feel like reaching for a knife whenever meeting a
supporter of the respective other camp. Do I consider that silly? You bet.

As for OS4 support in CygnusEd: well, why not? It's just that the spare time available
to me at the moment hasn't allowed me to put any work into it. Add to that that the
commercial availability of the current CygnusEd version is zip. I'd have to find a
new distributor before I could make an OS4 port available.
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Posted by Olaf Barthel on 16-Dec-2003 07:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Anonymous):
>> MOS native port probably means they have the sourcecode..
>
> I always thought CED was written in assembler and not in C?

Large parts used to be written in assembly language, such as the code which
formats the text buffer contents for display on screen. Same goes for the
fast scrolling code and the hand-tuned topaz/8 text printing routines. I
had my share of troubles getting these rewritten in 'C'. At the same time I
also switched compilers for the project (CygnusEd used to be built with
Manx Aztec 'C' 5.0a). The editor and its supporting tools are fairly portable
today, as long as the operating system is AmigaOS-like.
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Posted by Olaf Barthel on 16-Dec-2003 07:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Kronos):
>> Hmm.. aren't Olaf's Roadshow exclusive for Hyperion? :)
>
> He isn't allowed to release an 68k-version before OS4 appears (thats
> what I heard).

There is no such restriction. It's just that getting the product published
is a far slower process than I had expected. I already had the first publisher
jump the project in mid stream. Now I'm dealing with another publisher who
has put more work into the product than the first one, yet we're still not
particularly close to a release date. I'm disappointed, but what can I do?
It just goes to show that the Amiga market is not particularly sound any
more.
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Posted by Anonymous on 16-Dec-2003 14:20 GMT
I have never liked CED, I like BlacksEditor and GoldED much more.
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Posted by yawn on 16-Dec-2003 14:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Anonymous):
Well, I never liked AmigaOS, it just made me feel so superior. Btw, does GoldED support tabs in the meantime?
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Posted by Anonymous on 16-Dec-2003 17:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (yawn):
If you don't like AmigaOS then why you are here at all? MOS and AROS are also AmigaOS clones :)
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Posted by Kjetil on 16-Dec-2003 18:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Anonymous):
If you read every thing you know it ironic or sarcastic,

if it is sarcastic then your comment is valid,

If it where meant ironic then he is saying:
<I like AmigaOS, And he do not feel superior, ironi and sarcasam is tricky biz.>

If ir where meant as sarcasm then he is saying:
<AmigaOS users have an aditude equals "feeling superior" >

If where meant in a sarcasm way then I not offended at all,
after all I should feel like I'm superior having the superior platform,
and I believe AmigaOS is the superior platform.
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Posted by Anonymous on 16-Dec-2003 19:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (yawn):
>Well, I never liked AmigaOS, it just made me feel so superior. Btw, does GoldED support tabs in the meantime?

Are you kidding? Every Golded I tried in the last five years had tabs. But does your PC editor have folding and everything-configurable and plug-ins and rexx and REAL filetypes like GoldED Aix, not just a major and minor mode? PC editors suck. They are good with IDE things but lousy editors.
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Posted by StAn on 17-Dec-2003 11:42 GMT
Actually, APS still sells CygnusEd Pro.
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Posted by Olaf Barthel on 17-Dec-2003 14:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (StAn):
> Actually, APS still sells CygnusEd Pro.

I suppose they are merely selling off old stock. No new CDs were made
after "Stefan Ossowski's Schatztruhe" was acquired by GTI and sales
were already declining when that had happened.
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Posted by Anonymous on 17-Dec-2003 19:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Olaf Barthel):
What about ditributing CED through iospirit? Felix has a good web site and I believe he is looking for more software.
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 17-Dec-2003 19:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Anonymous):
That aint a bad idea at all.
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