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Posted on 19-Dec-2003 21:47 GMT by moobunny reader87 comments
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Quoting bbrv directly here:

All the Pegasos II machines that have been ordered from Genesi have been produced and are currently being tested. They will ship next week. The user manual was finished this morning. MorphOS 1.4 for Pegasos II is being perfected.

R&B :-) Link

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Posted by JoannaK on 19-Dec-2003 21:50 GMT
Oh?
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Posted by bbrv on 19-Dec-2003 21:52 GMT
...we should say ordered and PAID for.

R&B
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Posted by opi on 19-Dec-2003 22:12 GMT
Could I have user manual before We get boards? I'd like to prepare some docs for polish users.
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Posted by JoannaK on 19-Dec-2003 22:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (bbrv):
Hmm.. So I have good chance on getting my Pegasos 2 (upgrade) around X-mas. Nice.
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Posted by bbrv on 19-Dec-2003 22:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (opi):
Opi, on the way!

R&B :-)
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Posted by opi on 19-Dec-2003 22:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (bbrv):
:-D
Thanks! ;->
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Posted by KenH on 19-Dec-2003 22:49 GMT
I must say, it's good to see any activity from any quater in these quiet times. With abit (alot?) of luck and goodwill we can get away from the courts and back to the innovating. I hope that dream hasn't ended.
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Posted by Zylesea on 19-Dec-2003 23:22 GMT
Well, no MOS 1.5??
I must confess I am a bit disappointed now. I was hopeing to get a
nice x-mas gift for my Peg.
But on the other hand: Congrats for the PegII. It will rock!
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Posted by samface on 20-Dec-2003 00:52 GMT
Hmmm... sent next week, Monday the 22nd at the earliest. That's not in time for christmas for most people, I'm afraid. But then, better late than never, right?

Anyway, still no explanation for the long over due delivery date that was initially promised?
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Posted by Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 01:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (samface):
can you stop trolling in every thread?
I wish there was an ignore feature here...
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Posted by bbrv on 20-Dec-2003 01:08 GMT
Yes, you are right. Better late than never.

R&B
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Posted by opi on 20-Dec-2003 01:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (samface):
,, Anyway, still no explanation for the long over due delivery date that was initially promised?''

Shit happends. It's quite normal, but since all problems where resolved there's nothing more to do than wait for mailman. :-)
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Posted by Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 01:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
Ok you agree to stop posting crap/trolling in OUR threads and we'll stop posing crap in your threads.

Deal?

or shall we just carry on digging the community lower?
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Posted by Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 01:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (samface):
> Anyway, still no explanation for the long over due delivery date that was initially promised?

Define "long"
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Posted by Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 01:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
About a hundred days? Remember...September (or earlier)!
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Posted by opi on 20-Dec-2003 02:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anonymous):
100 days = long? Don't be silly.
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Posted by MarkTime on 20-Dec-2003 02:13 GMT
when will boards be available to the general public through regular channels... i.e. its in stock at a retailer, you give your credit card and they ship the next day.
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Posted by Neko on 20-Dec-2003 02:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Zylesea):
MorphOS 1.4 for Pegasos II isn't just MorphOS 1.4 with Pegasos II compatibility, it has some more treats in store than a "quick port".

But we don't want to call it a full release until we have time to
make it a full release, rather than being forced at gunpoint to
get hw&sw out of the door :)

=Neko=
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Posted by Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 03:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anonymous):
> About a hundred days? Remember...September (or earlier)!

That doesn't even qualify as "short" in the Amiga-paleochrono scale.
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Posted by Chain|Q on 20-Dec-2003 03:51 GMT
Since on next week is my birthday (on dec 22) i really couldn't wish a more valuable present than the beginning of the shipping of Pegasos II... :)
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Posted by Mr. Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 05:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Neko):
"port"? We're not talking PCs and MACs. I would assume it would be an adaption. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Po-tate-o, Po-tat-o

Dude, It's called a Beta! Hmm, What's a beta of a beta? an alpha?
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Posted by Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 05:34 GMT
Ah, Another "Peg II is almost here, reall soon now" again from BB. Why not stop blowing smoke, shut your yup for a minute and surprize us by just shipping them.

Peg II just in time for Christmas (Orthidox Christmas). :)
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Posted by Mr. Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 05:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (bbrv):
You mean "PreOrdered".
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Posted by Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 05:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Mr. Anonymous):
He said "Ordered from Genesi." There are no Genesi preorders, only third party preorders.
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Posted by -D- on 20-Dec-2003 08:12 GMT
Congrats, Genesi. I look forward to getting this system set up
(will probably post a mini-review in an Amiga.org forum, if there
aren't already several by that time).

-d
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Posted by Don Cox on 20-Dec-2003 08:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (samface):
"Anyway, still no explanation for the long over due delivery date that was initially promised?"

Delays are normal in the computer industry. If it had arrived at the announced time, _then_ there would be a need for explanations.
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Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 20-Dec-2003 08:37 GMT
So..

You have produced as many boards as people have paid for? Or more?

What happens next? Is this were it starts?
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Posted by Turrican on 20-Dec-2003 09:18 GMT
It was written that new true machines would arise before the false ones.
One must not lose hope.
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Posted by amorel on 20-Dec-2003 09:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (opi):
So what were the problems which have been resolved?
Also, assuming most orders have been done using a credit card, isn`t it a bit strange to charge those before the ordered item actually is available to ship. I for sure would get rather upset to see my credit card bill and wonder why I didn`t get what I paid for. Normal practice would be to charge the credit card when the item is to be shipped. But I guess I missed something here, right?
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Posted by Gunne Steen on 20-Dec-2003 09:25 GMT
Finally I would like to say, and a very nice christmaspresent to people and to this community, and it will be very exciting to see and feel and touch these new boards for the first time ever :-), and try out different systems and everything, Im really looking forward to it.

Congratulations to Genesi, bplan and all people behind.

However I do keep my fingers crossed until I have a board in my hand.

And merry christmas to all, and a happy new year !

Gunne
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Posted by Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 10:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (amorel):
>Normal practice would be to charge the credit card when the item is to be shipped.You say this is not the case here? Did you order one?
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Posted by opi on 20-Dec-2003 10:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Chain|Q):
Hey! Im Dec22 too! :-))
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Posted by opi on 20-Dec-2003 10:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (amorel):
Well, I dunno if someone was charged. Ask someone who order online. TheHool or JoannaK did, iirc. About resolved problems, again I don't know details (except rumors) but if boards will be shiped soon I think they have to be resolved, right?
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Posted by amorel on 20-Dec-2003 10:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (opi):
It was more of a question in general, not to you in particular :-) And I figure that "if" they ship the major obstacles preventing shipping/production, have been taken obviously. But most interesting is what those "obstacles" were.
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Posted by amorel on 20-Dec-2003 10:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Anonymous):
I was just speculating, assuming and likely missing something. I would say that was rather obvious.
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Posted by Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 10:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (samface):
"still no explanation for the long over due delivery date that was initially promised"

Can you say "On schedule and rockin'", Spamface?

Can you say "The first release of AmigaOS4 is targeted for Summer (in the Northern Hemisphere)" whilst referring to 2001, Spamface?

Can you say "November 2001", Spamface?

Now, you want to talk about delays, huh Spamface the Troll?
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Posted by opi on 20-Dec-2003 10:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (amorel):
,,It was more of a question in general, not to you in particular :-)''

Ok! :-) Lets get beer and relax ;-))
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Posted by Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 11:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (amorel):
> So what were the problems which have been resolved?

Since they have been resolved, that's a rather academic and uninteresting question.
Design problems, manufacturing problems, shipping problems, "someone" ordering the entire first production batch... The end result is the same; an extremely short (in computer industry terms) delay. And now that problem is not here anymore (knock on wood). So?

> Also, assuming most orders have been done using a credit card, isn`t it a bit
> strange to charge those before the ordered item actually is available to ship.

Yes. But I wonder what product and company you're talking about, because such a hypothetical scenario has nothing to do with this thread.

> Normal practice would be to charge the credit card when the item is to be
> shipped.

So we have a case of normal practice here. Intriguing! Not.

> But I guess I missed something here, right?

Quite.
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Posted by smithy on 20-Dec-2003 11:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Anders Kjeldsen):
>So..
>
>You have produced as many boards as people have paid for? Or more?
>
>What happens next? Is this were it starts?

Excellent question.

Is Genesi going to build more Peg 2s?
Are they going to be built only to order, or built to ensure that they are always available so that people can order them and get them straight away?
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 20-Dec-2003 11:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (smithy):
Well I'd hope so.. there are still people with Pegasos1 wanting to upgrade to Pegasos2.
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Posted by Trizt on 20-Dec-2003 11:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Neko):
With other words, it's MorphOS 1.4.1 :P
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Posted by IamCleverToo on 20-Dec-2003 12:10 GMT
Hello BBRV, is there a programmers guide (in printed form) for MorphOS being developed?
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Posted by Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 12:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (opi):
Yes it is long
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Posted by Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 12:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (opi):
It's interesting that same guys would be shouting that it's months late if we would be now talking about AmigaOne, now people say 100 days is nothing. Wery interestuing.

But i aggree with other guy. We all should stop trolling and just be happy with new hardware and software.
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Posted by Emeric SH on 20-Dec-2003 12:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Anonymous):
"Ok you agree to stop posting crap/trolling in OUR threads and we'll stop posing crap in your threads.

Deal?

or shall we just carry on digging the community lower?"

What else than making up artificial and imaginary camps can make this community sink lower?
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Posted by Lennart Fridén on 20-Dec-2003 13:36 GMT
Nice to see some movement in non-Mac PPC-land. Must agree that it's a bit silly to speak of long delays (~6 months) when you still can't obtain an AmigaOne + OS 4.
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Posted by pixie on 20-Dec-2003 13:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Anonymous):
This always was about 'my dick is biggers then yours' thing, now what people are saying is just:'after all you also got a problem with yours'. Is that hard to understand?

Blue side always jump like if they could pretend it could never happen to them, but then these posts, these threads, the actual happenings just prove it can! So live with it! Lif isn't alwyas as we want it to be...
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Posted by Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 13:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (samface):
Spamface stop trolling. AmigaOS4 has got to be one of the latest OS releases ever. There's been missed deadlines along the way and set backs. Unfortunately, it's the state of HW and SW today. Many companies don't even give an estimated release date until the actual software is at the printers and actual hardware is in production.
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Posted by Anonymous on 20-Dec-2003 14:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Anonymous):
> It's interesting that same guys would be shouting that it's months late if we would be now talking about AmigaOne, now people say 100 days is nothing

Well, obviously there is a small difference between three months late with the second model and one or two years late with the cornerstone, the OS. Most people who really want a Pegasos + PPC OS already own it (for many months). For those people a Pegasos 2 is a nice upgrade but not a presssing issue.
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Posted by dslcc on 20-Dec-2003 15:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Anonymous):
>For those people a Pegasos 2 is a nice upgrade but not a presssing issue.

Weighing the upgrade benefit against not having any Peg during the upgrade process. May just have to buy a PegII at full price and end up with two of them. They made the Peggy too good! :) I don't want to part with it even for a moment!

David
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