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[News] Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers!ANN.lu
Posted on 31-Dec-2003 03:03 GMT by Bill Panagouleas18 comments
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Chicago, Illinois -- Dec 30, 2003 -- DiscreetFX LLC Inc., Real-time Broadcast Quality Visual Effects developer for the Amiga/Video Toaster Flyer and MorphOS, releases the Amiga/Video Toaster 4000/Flyer/MorphOS version of Spontaneous Combustion. DiscreetFX Releases Spontaneous Combustion; Amiga/Video Toaster 4000/Flyer & MorphOS version. A New Real-Time Fire, Smoke & Explosion Effects Library and Digital Video Effects (DVE) collection. Information about Spontaneous Combustion:

Spontaneous Combustion is selling for $129.95 but is available for the special price of $49.95 only till the end of 2003. Thats right we are still going to honor the PreOrder price even though it is now shipping but you have to hurry if your interested since this offer is only good until midnight December 31st 2003. We are even crazy enough to include Free Shipping. As many of you know Andy Panagouleas was hurt badly in August 2003. He has been stuck home these many months recovering and unable to go back to school. Andy asked to help with the development of this version of Spontaneous Combustion since he is a big Amiga and Video Toaster owner/fan. Andy's hard work helped get the product done in time for 2003 and he receives a % of all sales.

Spontaneous Combustion: The unofficial sequel to the Amiga/Video Toaster Flyer version of Pyromania from Bill Panagouleas and Andy Panagouleas. In development for over two years Spontaneous Combustion gives you much more than just fire, explosion and smoke effects. Rendered on Silicon Graphics O2 and Octane systems @ 4000 X 4000 resolution and quadra down sampled to full overscan uncompressed D1 video (720 X 486), you won't have to sacrifice quality. More frames, more depth, more realism. Over 40 unique Real-time effects, many never before seen for any video editing system including Sexy Smoke, Ultimate Explosion, Big Shooting Star, Car Crash, Flame Columns, Streaking Comet, TNT, Detonate, Phlogiston and Apocalypse.



Amiga/Video Toaster 4000/Flyer & MorphOS version includes.

1. Forty Real-time Broadcast Quality Fire Effects in Amiga Video Toaster 4000 DVE format.



2. Forty animated Video Toaster Flyer clip files that can be used for advanced Compositing with the Video Toaster Flyer, Lightwave ToasterPaint 4.0 or Aura.



3. Forty animated Amiga Anim files that can be used as an overlay on video with any Amiga the has a Genlock. These Anim files can also be used under MorphOS or Amiga OS 3.1-4.0 with Amiga/ MorphOS animation software that supports the Anim standard like ImageFX 4.5 and others.



4. Complete 24 bit IFF image sequences of all Real-time effects included. Can be used with any Amiga/ MorphOS software that supports IFF 24.



For more information please call toll-free @ 1 (800) 852-0930 or send an e-mail to sales@discreetfx.com. Payments can also be sent via Paypal to sales@discreetfx.com

If you wish to pay by check or none Paypal credit card you can, just contact us first toll-free @ 1 (800) 852-0930 If you need our snail mail address it's @ http://www.discreetfx.com/Contactinfo.htm

Spontaneous Combustion includes a 100% Money Back Guarantee.



Please note Amiga/ Video Toaster 4000/Flyer & MorphOS version includes bonus features and unique content not found in the Windows version.



Spontaneous Combustion is the only new product released in 2003 for the Amiga Video Toaster/Flyer. MorphOS is a new platform we are supporting, please let us know when ordering if you use MorphOS. If we get enough interest and support from MorphOS customers we will continue to support this new operating system.

More information and screenshots is also available at

http://www.discreetfx.com/SpontCombustion.htm

About DiscreetFX



DiscreetFX creates Real-time transitions and effects seen on over 100 television programs including Blind Date, 5th Wheel, Shipmates, NFL, Buffy the Vapire Slayer and more! You can also see DiscreetFX software used on the following networks HBO, Showtime, Discovery Channel, PBS, Fox and many more!

Best regards



Bill Panagouleas

DiscreetFX

Founder/CEO

bill AT discreetfx DOT com

www.discreetfx.com
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 1 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by koehler on 31-Dec-2003 08:12 GMT
Well, at least Bill found a site thats more appropriate that the bunny.

http://www.flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/95149.shtml
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 2 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 31-Dec-2003 08:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (koehler):
@koehler

Why are you doing this?
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 3 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Panagouleas on 31-Dec-2003 08:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (koehler):
koehler as many people in the Amiga community know my son (not brother, don't have one) was hurt very badly on Aug 30th 2003.

http://amiga.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2710

He is still recovering and helping with Spontaneous Combustion gave him something to do since he could not go back to school and was stuck at home. He got to learn a new skill instead of having to think about his long road to recovery all the time. Your comment making fun of his injury is in very very bad taste. I hope making fun of 13 year old boys that have been burned badly is not your normal past time.
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 4 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by koehler on 31-Dec-2003 09:16 GMT
Bill, where is my comment wherein I make fun of your son?
What I make fun off is your spamming of moobunny with some lame PR release. More to the point, the fact that your post is on 12/30, with some sort of late night tv sales tactic to act by 12/31 to get your product for $49.

Even more to the point, what I distinctly find odious is not only the use of someone's injury to try and sell your product during the holidays ( you should be ashamed as a parent), but your bullshit 'excuse' that you are acting altruisticly for the benefit of Amiga users who've had no good software available for 2003.

The fact that you as the head of the company felt like jumping on various websites to announce a product at Christmas time and invoke an injured party, and then try to close some sales by 12/31, well seems very reminiscent of another Bill's tactics I've seen in the Amiga community.

If you were really so altruistic, you could have 'announced' that you were extending the $49 offer for a couple of months. But, you obviously want sales by 12/31.

And, as someone who will be a father soon, and who works with real corporate types on almost daily basis, I know none of them would ever try to make sales off of the public's pity during the holidays, nor ever.

Try if you will, to make me out as some monster who made fun of your injured son. It doesn't wash.

What does wash is your obvious scammish last minute attempt to bump some sales by 12/31 with a 12/30 PR release on various sites.
What does wash is your opportunistic ploy at the public's heartstrings with a pity ploy about someone's injuries.
What does wash is your transparent excuse that you were just trying to give back to the community, and not running a last minute sales operation.


Be a man, show us how much you really meant when you said you were doing it for the community. Extend the $49 offer for a couple of months, you're the boss.
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 5 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by the duke on 31-Dec-2003 09:22 GMT
Ill get the only true real-time version the amiga version
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 6 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Panagouleas on 31-Dec-2003 09:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (koehler):
koehler the only reason Andy was mentioned is because he helped develop the product to distract himself from all the rehabilitation and Therapy he has to go through. He really enjoys the Amiga and the Toaster so it has helped in the healing process. And Andy gets a big part of the money from each sale, which is kind of nice for a 13 year old. This is not Viagra it is Amiga software that is developed because we enjoy doing it not some get rich MLM scam which is what you seem to make it out to be. I even offered you a free review copy at first but your to busy complaining about nothing. And your off comment about Andy is in bad taste, and not appreciated, ask anyone.
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 7 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Panagouleas on 31-Dec-2003 09:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Bill Panagouleas):
koehler posted
> Be a man, show us how much you really meant when you said you were doing it for >the community. Extend the $49 offer for a couple of months, you're the boss.

Done, offer extended to Feb 2003.
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 8 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Panagouleas on 31-Dec-2003 09:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Bill Panagouleas):
Make that Feb 2004 not 2003.
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 9 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 31-Dec-2003 10:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Bill Panagouleas):
Don't mind him.. of wankers classed a to c, he ain't even an a.
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 10 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by oGALAXYo on 31-Dec-2003 10:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (koehler):
Why do you care so much ? He is allowed to do, to announce, to sell whatever he wants and he belies is right in his vision. There is no need for you to jump on - on this and play his judge or take him to the shambles. If you are not interested in his product or announcement then please skip over it and read something else. I for my own think that Bill, his company, his work and even his volunteer activities with the Amizilla project are important and a big benefit for this community. We need people with creativity and own ideas. I don't know what he may have written on MooBunny but after all it's his business and his way to articulate thing. And on earth there are more things important than computers, it's the own family, the own children. Everything else is luxus.
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 11 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 31-Dec-2003 10:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (koehler):
@ koehler

Again, why are you doing this?
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 12 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Anon on 31-Dec-2003 11:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (koehler):
DUDE, WTF?????
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 13 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Cluke on 31-Dec-2003 15:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (koehler):
I read that thread. It does not reflect well on you at all.
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 14 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 31-Dec-2003 20:05 GMT
It is up to the sites maintainers to decide what is considered as free advertisement or not, it is not up to the users.
Bill has made tremendous efforts for the platform.
I welcome any of his announcements any time here and wish him the best for him and his family for 2004.
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 15 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Fred on 31-Dec-2003 23:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (koehler):
koehler, have you lost the plot?
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 16 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Brad on 02-Jan-2004 04:35 GMT
I agree with koehler - to some extent.

I don't mind the spamming, since that is partly what this board is about. News.

However, mentioning your son in a way to sell a product is not a great thing to do IMHO. It looks really bad.
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 17 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Fred on 02-Jan-2004 08:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Brad):
The fact that koehler sent all of DiscreetFX's email addresses to several SPAM lists, which are normally sold throughout the spam underground, is simply moronic behaviour.
Just in time for 2003 for Amiga/Toaster/MorphOS lovers! : Comment 18 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by koehler on 07-Jan-2004 03:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Fred):
Yes, it would be, if I had in fact done such.
You folks must have missed my public apology over on the bunny....

In short, the OP on the bunny was a classic 'spam' type of post.
In this case however, I think it was in fact a legit post, albeit suspicious.

As mentioned on the bunny, I am sending $49 ( the price of the sepcial offer) to Bill, for his son, and as evidence of my sincere apology.
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