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[News] Genesi reseller page updatedANN.lu
Posted on 07-Jan-2004 18:20 GMT by Ron van Herk34 comments
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Genesi has updated their resellers information page on www.pegasosppc.com. The page also includes new information on the next PegasosII production(s) and the availability of traded-in Pegasos1 boards.
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 1 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by AdmV on 07-Jan-2004 17:26 GMT
weird.

AdmV
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 2 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Ronald St-Maurice on 07-Jan-2004 17:32 GMT
Their 2 US resellers aren't even selling Pegasus right now(one is a consultation company and the other is on Pre-Order.) I thought the production was going forward?
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 3 of 34ANN.lu
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Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 4 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 07-Jan-2004 17:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Ronald St-Maurice):
First it is a PegasOs.
Then check out this link:
http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=959&forum=3

Looks like someone found a US reseller offering good services.
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 5 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Darren Eveland on 07-Jan-2004 17:43 GMT
All I can say is that this production in "batches" sucks for the end user. We have to wait minimum 1 month for any new order (most likely more than that...as you have to wait for production run, then 2-3 weeks to test/ship).

This is all reminding me of phase 5 days where you had to wait months to get any product.

Maybe they have to do it because of financial constraints or too much market risk...who knows, but for the end user or those buyers who purchase on impulse, this really sucks :)
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 6 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 07-Jan-2004 17:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Darren Eveland):
If they produce every months and produce enough so the resellers can have a little stock then there should be no problem for the end user.
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 7 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by kalmar on 07-Jan-2004 18:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Darren Eveland):
How else can they do it? Keep a production line tied up to make today's orders, what, 5 pegasos boards a day? You clearly just don't have a clue :)
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 8 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Mr. Anonymous on 07-Jan-2004 18:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (kalmar):
Yeah, wouldn't on demand production be cool. Sort of like on demand printing.
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 9 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by MIKE on 07-Jan-2004 18:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Darren Eveland):
What Amiga company doesn't produce merchandise in batches? Such small runs of such things are obviously only going to be manufactured in such a way. The difference between Genesi and other companies (Eyetech), is they are telling the truth about this, as opposed to making up stories (email server offline, Motorola problems, etc.).
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 10 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by redrumloa on 07-Jan-2004 19:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (MIKE):
> What Amiga company doesn't produce merchandise in batches?

Individual Computers.
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 11 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Kees on 07-Jan-2004 19:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Christophe Decanini):
If they produce every months and produce enough so the resellers can have a little stock then there should be no problem for the end user.

I think its more a matter of the dealers ... all remaining Amiga dealers are small shops and or mail-order companies ... they can't afford to have a great stock without knowing that they will really get rid of it in the end.

Kees
Amiga.org
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 12 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by dslcc on 07-Jan-2004 20:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Mr. Anonymous):
Jack Pegasos - We Don't Make It Until You Order It - Jack.

:)
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 13 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by dslcc on 07-Jan-2004 20:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Mr. Anonymous):
Jack Pegasos - We Don't Make It Until You Order It - Jack.

:)
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 14 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Ronald St-Maurice on 07-Jan-2004 21:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Christophe Decanini):
First it is a PegasOs.
Then check out this link:
http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=959&forum=3

Looks like someone found a US reseller offering good services.

---> They are on Pre-order status. <---
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 15 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 07-Jan-2004 22:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (redrumloa):
is Individual Computers making the C1? I haven't heard much news about that board lately
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 16 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 07-Jan-2004 23:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Kees):
Agree Kee. The market is small and the few resellers are really even small :(
Anyway as I repeated 3 months ago I hope that Peggy2 will be not a collection machine like Peggy1, but a real all users machine: let's hope :/
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 17 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by OS4-on-Peg on 08-Jan-2004 00:10 GMT
Wasn't it nice of Anton Preinsag to doante his Pegasos to Hyperion Entertainment to port OS4 to the Pegasos! :-)
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 18 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by katos1 on 08-Jan-2004 00:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Ronald St-Maurice):
The reason they are in "pre-order" status because they have sold out their stock,
If You don't believe me, call Ultra-spec and ask for Nit... and they don't charge You untill they ship!! Also I found out that they will be selling systems, that you can configure to your specs, which is pretty much what I did.
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 19 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by katos1 on 08-Jan-2004 00:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Eva):
Not all the resellers are really small, Ultra-spec is known in the Unix community and is one of the main after-market sellers of cables, kvm's, etc for Sun and Sgi users, who either can't afford sun's prices or want a better selection, of Monitor cables, etc...
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 20 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Ronald St-Maurice on 08-Jan-2004 00:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (katos1):
The reason they are in "pre-order" status because they have sold out their stock, If You don't believe me, call Ultra-spec and ask for Nit... and they don't charge You untill they ship!! Also I found out that they will be selling systems, that you can configure to your specs, which is pretty much what I did.

I believe you on that. But weren't the problems done with and better availability of the Pegasos?
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 21 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Mr. Anonymous on 08-Jan-2004 01:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Ronald St-Maurice):
What the buck?
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 22 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Mr. Anonymous on 08-Jan-2004 01:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (OS4-on-Peg):
Was that a PI or a PII?
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 23 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Mr. Anonymous on 08-Jan-2004 01:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (katos1):
Unlike Genesi!
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 24 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jan-2004 13:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (katos1):
No I don't belive you.
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 25 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Anton P. on 08-Jan-2004 14:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (OS4-on-Peg):
??? This is pure nonsens. I respect Hyperion, but I didn´t sent them any Pegasos-Board. This isn´t MY job, is it?;)
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 26 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 09-Jan-2004 08:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (OS4-on-Peg):
After all Ben Hermann bad words on Genesi and Bplan, it would be adsurd to support Hyperion in any way.
Until Aos will be managed by these ppl (BillyBoy Mcewan, BenHermann and some wise guyz at Eyetech), well, they will be only able to relabell a Taiwanes MainBoard "Amiga" and call new Amigan OS ... Linux (waiting in the meantime Aos4, that will be released in an unknow date and in an unknow state ... if it will be released ...).

Anyway this tread is about Pegasos new production AosOnPeg ... we should talk about the fact that for some reasons (money, risks, lowprofile) Genesi (can't) don't want produce REALLy these mobos. We're looking again to a "production" of a new collection machine :(
With this numbers on the street (1000 peg2 so far) few developers can start new projects for MoS-Pegasos. Here I have 3-4 friends that will buy Peggy2 tomorrow if they could buy it without PREPAYNG 2 months before (with no assurance that in 2 months they will obtain it...)
I hope in a good future for Genesi, Bplan And Mos Team (Mos1.4 on Peg2 is fantastic) but with these numbers ... we reached the absurd position where there are people that want to spend money ... but cannot.
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 27 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jan-2004 10:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Eva):
>After all Ben Hermann bad words on Genesi and Bplan, it would be adsurd to support Hyperion in any way.
If that is so, how come BB claimed that they would get AOS4 running on the Pegasos one way or another? Wouldn't it be easier to support Hyperion in that case?

>Until Aos will be managed by these ppl (BillyBoy Mcewan, BenHermann and some wise guyz at Eyetech), well, they will be only able to relabell a Taiwanes

My A1 board is not a relabeled Taiwanese mainboard. Get your facts straight before you open your mouth. (Hint: http://www.mai.com/contact/index.html)

> (Mos1.4 on Peg2 is fantastic)
What world are you living in? Fantasic is a pretty strong word for an unfinished OS...
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 28 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 09-Jan-2004 11:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Anonymous):
Hey, for ONCE she was right so cut it off. It indeed is fantastic.
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 29 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 09-Jan-2004 12:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Anonymous):
> (Mos1.4 on Peg2 is fantastic)
What world are you living in? Fantasic is a pretty strong word for an unfinished OS...

If Mos 1.4 was unfinished ... Aos4 is? A vapour OS ?
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 30 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jan-2004 14:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Eva):
>If Mos 1.4 was unfinished ... Aos4 is? A vapour OS ?

Seriously, who cares??? Who compared Mos with Aos4??? Get a clue!!!

I'd say that AOS4 works great for me, but I still use XP at work.
I would never say AOS4 is fantastic nor would I say XP is fantstic but
I use and enjoy them both for the different purposes.
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 31 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Alan LM Buxey on 09-Jan-2004 15:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Eva):
>waiting in the meantime Aos4, that will be released in an unknow date and in an >unknow state ... if it will be released ...

oh, it will be released all right. and its coming. your worries shouldnt be
concerned with trifling details like that, but on how good it is..and that
it is AmigaOS. let these things worry you.
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 32 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 09-Jan-2004 20:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Alan LM Buxey):
iMHO Comparing these 2 OS:s at this point is quite useless.
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 33 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 09-Jan-2004 22:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Alan LM Buxey):
LOL ALAN I will be worried in 2005 :D
Genesi reseller page updated : Comment 34 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 11-Jan-2004 12:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Eva):
EVA, you shouldn't be worried at all, why worry about something you don't want? Unless you are afraid Genesi can't stand competition offcourse.
Let both of them (Eyetech/Hyperion and Genesi/bplan) be in peace.

Cheers
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