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Posted on 11-Jan-2004 14:28 GMT by Lukas Stehlik356 comments
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The best Amiga ever - Pegasos II G4 1GHz!
See the benchmark results on AmiGOD2 benchmark page.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 251 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 13-Jan-2004 11:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 248 (Olegil):
Well.. sort of its not. It runs only one of the OS's the Pegasos can :)
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 252 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 13-Jan-2004 11:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 235 (samface):
Nope, not without an emulator and/or AmigaOS4.
--

Make that: "Nope, not without an emulator."
AmigaOS4 would not run a single AmigaOS 3.1 application without a 68k emulator... That's the only emulator MorphOS contains as well...
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 253 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 13-Jan-2004 11:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 248 (Olegil):
As I said, it's subjective, if it would please him to call it a Pegasos, fine!
On the other hand, knowing Hans-Jörg, I SERIOUSLY doubt that he would like to
call it as such:-)
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 254 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 13-Jan-2004 11:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 248 (Olegil):
Well, Hans-Joerg has a 1.13GHz G4 AmigaOne, his one would of course be the fastest Pegasos then :-) I would not mind if he says his A1 is the fastest Pegasos. And I think it is valid, especially if he is using software developed on/for MorphOS :) (compile 68k binary on MorphOS and dont use any MOS-only features)
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 255 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 13-Jan-2004 11:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 235 (samface):
>>AmigaOne could be successfully argued to be compatible with software intended to interoperate with the original AmigaOS,

Samface wrote: Nope, not without an emulator and/or AmigaOS4.

Well, luckily the motherboard ships with an emulator!


>> it's still not compatible with Amiga hardware,

Samface wrote: Of course not. It's an entirely new processor architecture, no custom chipset design, etc.

That's the point! You claimed that an Amiga had to be compatible with Amiga hardware. Yet, the AmigaOne isn't compatible with the Amiga3000 hardware. The Amiga3000 isn't compatible with all Amiga500 hardware. The Amiga1000 can't run the Commodore Amiga A3640 accelerator. You need to lose your hardware point on your definition. Things are NOT compatible.


>> nor is the AmigaOne capable of running any Amiga branded software (ie AmigaOS) natively.

Samface wrote : Not released on the market yet != not existing.

Glad you agree to that. AmigaOS4 is 'coming' as it has been for the past many years. Until it's a product then the AmigaOne is a PPC WinUAE runner just as a x86 runs WinUAE. Yet, people call their AmigaOne an Amiga. It's neither software compatible nor hardware compatible thus by your definition it's not an Amiga. I simply applied the same test to the AmigaOne you're applying to the PegasOS.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 256 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 13-Jan-2004 12:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 244 (Jupp3):
>So, PowerUP boards _MUST_ be called Amiga, or it's illegal to run AmigaOS 4 on
>them.

So, if I would give you a license to publish a painting that I've made for a specific Amiga magazine, *I* would not be able to publish *my* picture anywhere else but that specific Amiga magazine?

Again, Amiga Inc. nor Hyperion are restricted by their own licensing terms and may add hardware support for whatever hardware they like on their own initiative. The licensing terms are for hardware manufacturers/distributors applying for this specific license and will then of course have to comply with the terms for the license. There is no sane reasoning that would explain why Amiga Inc. and Hyperion would be restricted by their own licensing terms since they are the license holders. That is the very reason for why Amiga Inc. and Hyperion is able to make support for the PowerUP boards despite that noone has applied for a license nor is able to comply with the licensing terms.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 257 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Steve on 13-Jan-2004 12:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 250 (Steve):
"Such a brain like yours can see that what really define a thing is far more than just its brand."

This should be read: Such a brain like yours CAN'T see that what really define a thing is far more than just its brand.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 258 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 13-Jan-2004 12:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 250 (Steve):
>So yes your brain is defective because he doesn't know what is objective and
>that's why it doesn't understand things correctly and can't realise/understand
>why the Pegasos IS an Amiga even with the huge amount of facts and objective
>reasonning in this thread to prove that.

Of course I would never dispute a fact since facts are per definition indisputable. However, where is the facts? I've seen alot of opinions and subjective standpoints in the matter, but actual facts and objective reasoning for why the Pegasos would be an Amiga is nowhere to be seen. Since my brain is defective, could you please help me point out these so-called facts for me?
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 259 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 13-Jan-2004 12:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 255 (BrianK):
Let's quote the very same post as you replied to since you obviously didn't read all of it:

What I explained was not the reasons for why the Pegasos is not an Amiga, it was the reasons for why the Pegasos is not an Amiga compatible. I really don't think I should have to state why the Pegasos is not an Amiga again, so please don't ask me to.

In other words, I never claimed that the AmigaOne would be an Amiga because of it's compatibility with the classic generation of Amiga computers and software. Compatibility is not even relevant when talking about what product is a brand X or a brand Y product. You see, despite the fact that the IMac nor MacOSX is compatible with the old 68k generation of Macintosh computers, they are both still very much Mac products. It's an indisputable fact regardless if it complies with your personal conception of the brand.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 260 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 13-Jan-2004 12:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 256 (samface):
>That is the very reason for why Amiga Inc. and Hyperion is able to make support for the PowerUP boards despite that noone has applied for a license nor is able to comply with the licensing terms.

Okay okay, I GIVE UP, YOU WIN

My "A1200" computer, that I sometimes use to run both Workbench 3.9 and MorphOS isn't an "Amiga" but "PowerUP" becouse I've got BPPC card installed in it.
(And I sure will *NOT* remove it to be able to call my machine "Amiga")

So, happy now? Community has lost yet another "Amiga" user.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 261 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 13-Jan-2004 12:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 259 (samface):
>despite the fact that the IMac nor MacOSX is compatible with the old
>68k generation of Macintosh computers,

Correction:

despite the fact that the IMac nor MacOSX is NOT compatible with the old 68k generation of Macintosh computers...
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 262 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 13-Jan-2004 12:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 260 (Jupp3):
Sorry to see you go :(((

good luck! and remember to be carefull.. its a dangerous world out there..
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 263 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 13-Jan-2004 12:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 260 (Jupp3):
Wow! Hold your horses there, my friend. Your Amiga is and always will be an Amiga, never did I claim otherwise. Here's the deal; your Amiga is an Amiga, your PowerUP board is a PowerUP board. If you use both, you are of course both an Amiga user AND a PowerUP board user. One thing doesn't neccessarily have to exclude the other and things are really not as complicated as it may seem. See?
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 264 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 13-Jan-2004 12:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 263 (samface):
Well, YOU make it simply so hard to be "Amiga user" that I rather not be one anymore...
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 265 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 13-Jan-2004 12:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 262 (hooligan/dcs):
Oh for christ sake, drop the drama already. Here, have a pinch of salt. ;-)
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 266 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 13-Jan-2004 12:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 264 (Jupp3):
I would rather say that it is your premature conclusions about the things beeing said that makes it complicated, but I guess that is just my personal conception. :-P
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 267 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 13-Jan-2004 13:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 259 (samface):
'why the Pegasos is not an Amiga compatible'

Samface if the PegasOS is NOT compatible then no, nada, zip, none, of the Amiga software would run on the box. Since that's not the case the PegasOS is compatible with Amiga Software.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 268 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 13-Jan-2004 13:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 259 (samface):
Samface arguement reductionism:

If it has an Amiga stamp on it from Amiga,Inc or Commodore then it's an Amiga.

If the system is Amiga-like, runs Amiga Software, but is made by someone else it's not an Amiga.

The issue here is Samface loves the stamp of approval. While others in the group use Amiga for a concept, a feeling, in a way a state of mind and have a much deeer concept of an Amiga.

I don't think Samface will be able to convince the broad concept people that Amiga is just a Trademark. I don't think that broad concept people will convince Samface that Amiga is a wider concept then just a stamp from 1 particular vendor.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 269 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 13-Jan-2004 13:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 249 (samface):
> Everything. The "Amiga concept", or whatever you want to call it, is a delusion
> based on a commercial product and only exists in people's minds.

The only delusional here it's you, Sammy, who can't accept people can extrapolate concepts from things around them, and let them have a life of their own. It's not anyone's fault, it's just like it is, please, for your own mental health, accept that a concept, which refers to the way AmigaOS looks and feels _DOES_ exist, and please accept that people freely chosed, on the basis of a natural process, to name it "Amiga".

Even if I know that right now your head is hurting for not being able to grasp this so difficult concept, please, try again, try until you succeed, I'm sure even you can undertand it, eventually.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 270 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 13-Jan-2004 13:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 261 (samface):
'despite the fact that the IMac nor MacOSX is NOT compatible with the old 68k generation of Macintosh computers'

Aren't they?
Virtual PC runs on the Mac. SoftMac runs on Windows. Thus, I believe you can emulate a PC emulating a 68K Mac. There's a few others Windows emulators of the Mac 68K.

I wonder if someone could run MacUAE and run ShapeShifter inside the Amiga? If so, again there's another way that MacOSX is compatible with the old 68K software.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 271 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by PiR on 13-Jan-2004 13:23 GMT
Pegasos is not an Amiga but runs a OS what is using stolen code from AOS, Bill Buck is breaking the law by selling the public a ILLEGAL OS.

All pegasos users are theives and should be dragged out in the street kicking and screaming, then line them up against a wall and put a bullet in them one by one.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 272 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 13-Jan-2004 13:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 265 (samface):
Posted by samface (131.116.254.198) on 13-Jan-2004 13:38:18

In Reply to Comment 262 (hooligan/dcs):
Oh for christ sake, drop the drama already. Here, have a pinch of salt. ;-)

----------

Bare with me.. I was just so devastated to see yet another one go. Grouphug!
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 273 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 13-Jan-2004 13:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 271 (PiR):
PiR...

I understand your feeling that their actions are probably illegal. However, it's up to Amiga, Inc. to protect their intellectual property. If PegasOS is in violation Amiga needs to take legal action against them. If Amiga, Inc. fails to protect it's IP in a timely basis and their IP becomes more accepted Amiga, Inc. may end up losing their IP.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 274 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 13-Jan-2004 13:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 268 (BrianK):
>If it has an Amiga stamp on it from Amiga,Inc or Commodore then it's an Amiga.

Exactly. Like I said, MacOSX nor the IMac is compatible, nor looks like the original 68k Macinstosh computers, yet they are indeed Mac products, are they not?

>If the system is Amiga-like, runs Amiga Software, but is made by someone else
>it's not an Amiga.

A Pegasos or an AmigaOne with Linux and MOL is very similar to a Mac and runs Mac software, would you say that any of these computers is a Mac? Of course not.

Again, the "Amiga concept" is a delusion. It's an abstract concept derived from the experience of using a certain commercial product. You see, just because there is a product that in your mind complies with a certain abstract concept from another product, that doesn't make those commercial products the same thing. That's like saying that just because something looks, smells and/or tastes the same as another, it has to be the same thing. Few things in life are that simple and perception can be deceiving. The importance of seperating poisonous mushrooms from healthy mushrooms springs to mind...
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 275 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-Jan-2004 13:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 272 (hooligan/dcs):
Shut your mouth and get back to sucking off Bucky Boy you white trash.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 276 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 13-Jan-2004 13:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 274 (samface):
'Again, the "Amiga concept" is a delusion. It's an abstract concept derived from the experience of using a certain commercial product. You see, just because there is a product that in your mind complies with a certain abstract concept from another product, that doesn't make those commercial products the same thing. That's like saying that just because something looks, smells and/or tastes the same as another, it has to be the same thing. Few things in life are that simple and perception can be deceiving.'

Samface,
Some people use Coke for any cola flavored beverage. Some people ask for a Kleenex for any nose tissue.... Some people use Amiga for any operating system solution that allows them to run their Amiga software. You don't like it fine. Then don't use it. There's people that object to the use of Coke and Kleenex in those terms, too.
No one every said PegasOS=AmigaOS is the same thing. Nor did they intend their use of the word Amiga to mean this.

You object to making the Amiga concept more then just a trademark. Fine. Like I said you won't convince those that hold the Amiga as a deeper meaning then just a Trademark to your only Trademark concept. They won't make you embrace the larger concept. Some say tomato some say tomato. Move on all.

Have a good day!
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 277 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 13-Jan-2004 13:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 270 (BrianK):
MacOSX nor the IMac is *more* compatible with it's predecessor's than the AmigaOne nor AmigaOS4. Both have to use emulation in order to support older software and the hardware is not backwards compatible at all (ie MacOSX nor AmigaOS4 is compatible with older 68k hardware). My point beeing that despite MacOSX and the new IMac's poor backwards compatibility, they are still successors to the classic Macinstosh computers and noone is disputing the fact that these computers are indeed Macintosh computers. Why should then the AmigaOne and AmigaOS4 be disputed as successors to the classic Amiga hardware and OS?
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 278 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 13-Jan-2004 13:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 277 (samface):
@Samface...

YAWN
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 279 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 13-Jan-2004 13:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 268 (BrianK):
I think that Samface is only saying, that things are what they are, it's not because you have an Amiga like system that it magically turns into an Amiga, like lindows with wine doesn't turn into windows
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 280 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 13-Jan-2004 13:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 276 (BrianK):
The high priest in the church of Amiga has spoken. :-P
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 281 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Paul Gadd on 13-Jan-2004 14:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 278 (BrianK):
If MorphOS is illegal then why not expose Genesi? surely you would not want to miss a opportunity to expose them as criminals?

Oh wait your the same people what have been claiming that for years, even those coupons and tshirts con artists at Amiga Inc have done NOTHING to expose MorphOS.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 282 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 13-Jan-2004 14:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 275 (Anonymous):
Posted by Anonymous (64.51.195.71) on 13-Jan-2004 14:43:16

In Reply to Comment 272 (hooligan/dcs):
Shut your mouth and get back to sucking off Bucky Boy you white trash.
--------------------

Ooooh.. thats so sweet. I love you too honey!
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 283 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 13-Jan-2004 14:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 281 (Paul Gadd):
I see someone has forgot the reasons for the delay of MorphOS 1.0... I'm not going to start another flamefest here so, that's all I'm going to say about that for now.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 284 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Jason on 13-Jan-2004 14:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 283 (samface):
DELAYED and EXPOSED are two very different words.

Did AMIGA INC expose MorphOS? NO
Did AMIGA INC delay MorphOS? YES

So in reality AMIGA INC have not exposed Genesi so stop trying to twist Gads words to defend your precious platform.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 285 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 13-Jan-2004 14:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 283 (samface):
Only one person so far said MOS 1.0 was delayed: Ben Hermans. You are second. (But not surprise, looks like Hyperion and MorphOS developers has been in the war for years...) But very well chosen bait, Sweden +1 point from Finland.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 286 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 13-Jan-2004 14:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 284 (Jason):
Did I claim that they were exposed? No, I just responded to your "they did nothing" claim. See?
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 287 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 13-Jan-2004 14:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 285 (itix):
My source of this information is Ralph Schmidt himself. I'm sure you'll find it if you take a look in the ANN.lu news archive, I just can't be bothered with it right now.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 288 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 13-Jan-2004 14:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 287 (samface):
Hmm looks like you are right, MOS 1.0 was delayed because of this. But first Pegasos buyers got MorphOS anyway. Interestingly enough this strange rumour (from Ben) appeared when Pegasos/MorphOS was nearing its public release... When MOS 0.2/0.3 was released Hyperion was complaining lack of WarpUp support (and now they no longer find WarpUp interesting). When WarpUp support was added for 0.4 they still werent happy :) Strange things happen in this community... People should let enjoy what they have. For the original topic (those stupid benchmarks); who cares what is the fastest Amiga and what not. Havent seen any comment which was not already sided.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 289 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 13-Jan-2004 14:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 288 (itix):
>Havent seen any comment which was not already sided.

How about this; a PC with Amithlon or UAE is the best computer for running AmigaOS3.x applications. :-P
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 290 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Treke on 13-Jan-2004 17:09 GMT
.
.
Ladies and gentlemen, lets enjoy our next baaattttleee: Samface VS RestOFTheWorld !
Ppl, it gets childish, 100-times discussed theme...
I'm surprised, that I got here to read it.

re

Treke
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 291 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 13-Jan-2004 17:16 GMT
...

When's the 300th post?

Ok, simple reasoning:

A Pegasos is not an Amiga Labeled machine
An AmigaONE is an Amiga Labeled machine
A pegasos follows the "Amiga" concept when it comes to the OS (*)
An AmigaONE (With AOS4) follows the "Amiga" concept when it comes to the OS.

If you use the word amiga to indicate the concept/filosofy, then you could qualify the Pegasos as an Amiga.
If you use the word amiga as a brand or model name, then the Pegasos isn't an Amiga.

* Depending on personal interpration.

Cheers
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 292 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 13-Jan-2004 17:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 290 (Treke):
No, not the rest of the world. The few hundred Pegasos supporters that considers the Pegasos as an Amiga computer is hardly "the rest of the world". I'd say it's a few Pegasos supporters on ANN.lu (which would be somewhere between 10-20 in this specific thread, maybe even less) against the rest of the world. You see, the rest of the world would probably think of the "Pegasus-or-whatever-it's-called" as some strange exotic platform they've ever heard of, if at all.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 293 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 13-Jan-2004 17:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 281 (Paul Gadd):
Paul,

I was not the one who said Genesi was illegal. See Comment 271 by PIR. He/She was the one who said their OS was illegal. I simply stated in message 273 that if it is an illegal activity it needs to be proven as such as Amiga needs to press the IP violation.

So please comment to 271 by PiR who is calling Genesi criminals. I've not stated you are or aren't. Just that Amiga needs to press IP rights in order to properly ascertain if Genesi is or isn't.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 294 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 13-Jan-2004 17:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 289 (samface):
Nice, but false... :-)
Amithlon may beat MorphOS hands down in pure mathematical performance, on a
fast pc but it won't even reach the configurability MorphOS and AmigaOS4 provide
to old applications... Not to mention the faster FEEL, due to the fact that
only the old application is translated and not the whole OS.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 295 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 13-Jan-2004 17:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 263 (samface):
My God ... but a brain implant, no Sam?
NOt only you troll like me but you luck also my skillz and ya are oly capable to say "Nothing is AMiga" ...
Can I tell you that AMiga is a spanish word that I can add to what I want, also to a pegasos female computer? LOL
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 296 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 13-Jan-2004 17:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 271 (PiR):
Fuck you.
As simple as that.
You wish me death, I wish you a good fuck.
And I also wish that your posting will be deleted along mine.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 297 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 13-Jan-2004 17:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 289 (samface):
Tooo ignorance in your mind SamBoy ... Mos 1.4 on old Pegasos 1 was already TIMES fatser than any emulator in day use! It need to emulate only pure 68k code ... not amiga libraries (tha slow down really a lot also Amithlon).
If you cntinue to repeat those stupidities you can only encrease your good looking ignorance dress you have got times ago.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 298 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 13-Jan-2004 17:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 280 (samface):
Samface

I don't believe in the pointless arguing. I don't see you changing your mind. I don't see others changing either. Your concept is X others concept is Y. I don't see any X+Y/2 middle ground as existing. I'm just agreeing that all parties disagree and will continue to do so. I'm saying this as politely as possible - please continue to argue and point your rips elsewhere.

Thank you.
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 299 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 13-Jan-2004 17:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 291 (Amon_Re):
An AmigaONE is an Amiga Labeled machine
___________

AmigaOne is A teroncx board labeled Amiga
Pegasos II G4 1GHz benchmarks! : Comment 300 of 356ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 13-Jan-2004 17:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 279 (pixie):
We are simply telling that AmigaOne have nothing to do with Amiga Pixie. WakeUp.
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