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[News] Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits MorphosANN.lu
Posted on 17-Jan-2004 13:10 GMT by Raffaele22 comments
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I have read of this very interesting and promising program on amiganews. Take a look at the rendered images into the gallery section and enjoy it.
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 1 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 17-Jan-2004 12:23 GMT
The program itself looks interesting, but *NO GUI*!? <shrugs!>
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 2 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 17-Jan-2004 13:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (takemehomegrandma):
GUI's are for amateurs :)
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 3 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by 4pLaYeR on 17-Jan-2004 13:22 GMT
No gui on a ray tracer? sigh :-)
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 4 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 17-Jan-2004 16:10 GMT
Indeed, with a good GUI it could be a killer!
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 5 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 17-Jan-2004 16:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (pixie):
Not to spoil your broth, guys, but have you ever heard of PoV Ray? http://www.povray.org/

Ports of it exist for AmigaOS as well as AROS, and of course it's got no gui, but frontends exist. Last but not least, it's open source.
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 6 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Pentrite on 17-Jan-2004 17:25 GMT
Could this program be a good tool for benchmarking systems?
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 7 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Time Traveller on 17-Jan-2004 17:56 GMT
AOS and MorphOS are soon going to be killing the PC platform with all these killer apps.

-

All comments made by me are written as if i am in the 90s.
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 8 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 17-Jan-2004 20:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Fabio Alemagna):
I know it, but I liked a lot the rendering pics of KRAY, about POV, I though it still had no GUI front-end...
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 9 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 17-Jan-2004 20:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Time Traveller):
Yeah, and you got to show me were you could find such quality in final renderings..
Anyway, this thread is about potential, and that's what we are talking about.. until a major Software house ports his software for Amiga/MorphOS (beside Real3D) there's the best we can have, unless on your time travels you see Maxon or Newtek returning to Amiga...
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 10 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 17-Jan-2004 21:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (pixie):
> I know it, but I liked a lot the rendering pics of KRAY,

Not bad, yes, but how about these?
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 11 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 18-Jan-2004 08:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Fabio Alemagna):
So what are the POV-Ray people using for modelling and scene layout?

A renderer doesn't really need a GUI as you only have to give it the name of a scene file plus a few parameters (image size etc). But you can hardly do object modelling or layout and animation without a GUI.

Scripting has its limits. We had to use it back in the days of Sculpt-4D, but since Lightwave and Imagine arrived, nobody wants to look back that far.
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 12 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 18-Jan-2004 08:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Don Cox):
> So what are the POV-Ray people using for modelling and scene layout?

Moray is one, there are tons of others available on the net (take a look at freshmeat).

Povray's home page is a good starting point to know everything about povray.
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 13 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 18-Jan-2004 10:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Fabio Alemagna):
Mr. Fabio Alemagna wrote:

>Not to spoil your broth, guys,
>but have you ever heard of PoV Ray?
>http://www.povray.org/

Yes, Fabio, we did...

And if you remeber well, previous month (last decmber) I point just to Povray in a discussion about Niche OS's for Mainstream Markets.

My comment was number 12regarding the superbundle of MorphOS

And that's what I said:

>Is it included a good sequencer?
>A good 3D render program such as POVRAY or Blender?
>
>(And consider the fact that we are still expecting
>for a MorphOS version of Blender,
>while POVRAY is still available thru '040 and '060 emulation,
>but it lacks of a GUI...
>
>***Note the fact that none of the Morphos Programmer
>is working to port to Pegasos any of the Linux GUI's
>that existed now for POVRAY...
>And it could be an easy task to perform using GCC
>and just re-compiling original code***
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 14 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 18-Jan-2004 11:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Raffaele):
"GUI" and "easy recompile" ??

That doesn't compute ......
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 15 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 18-Jan-2004 11:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Don Cox):
Mr. Don Cox wrote in answer to Fabio Alemagna:

>So what are the POV-Ray people using for modelling and scene layout?

Modelers are here

unofficial patches and front end programs are here
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 16 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 18-Jan-2004 11:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Kronos):
Mr Kronos wrote:

>"GUI" and "easy recompile" ??
>
>That doesn't compute ......

GUI = I intended a Font-end

easy recompile = If front-ends are made for Linux under GPL, all a programmer need is to pick up the GCC code and just re-compile it for Amiga PPC or MorphOS.

Many Amiga programmers use to port directly Linux programs to Amiga and MorphOS in these days...

mPlayer is a typical example...
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 17 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Mazze on 18-Jan-2004 11:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Raffaele):
GUIs are written with a widget system (GTK, wxWindow, Qt ...). I haven't heared that any of these is available for AmigaOS.
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 18 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Alan LM Buxey on 18-Jan-2004 20:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Raffaele):
GCC will recompile the code, sure! but any un*x -> AmigaOS port of a GUI frontend would require MAJOR amounts of work invested in creating a MUI/ReAction/Gadtools conversion. we dont have GTK+ or XUL etc on AmigaOS
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 19 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Sigbjørn Skjæret on 19-Jan-2004 00:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Raffaele):
"mPlayer is a typical example..."

Ehhh, have you even seen the MorphOS MPlayer sources? I guess not, because you'd know it's everything other than a "simple recompile" from Linux sources...


- CISC
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 20 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 19-Jan-2004 16:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Mazze):
Mr. Mazze wrote:

>GUIs are written with a widget system
>(GTK, wxWindow, Qt ...).
>I haven't heared that any of these is available for AmigaOS.

Duh..?

GTK was not available trhu Geek Gadgets?

Even that old and slooow release will become plain usable (and pretty) into APPC or MOS
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 21 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Mazze on 19-Jan-2004 21:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Raffaele):
Now I'm a bit surprised. I have tought that porting of Linux software with GUI is difficult, because the Linux GUI systems aren't available for AmigaOS.
Kray Ray-Tracing Program for various platforms (including Amiga PPC) now hits Morphos : Comment 22 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Grzesiek on 25-Jan-2004 10:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Fabio Alemagna):
We cannot compare rendering quality (and speed) on such pictures. Best way is to render the same scene with both programs.
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