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Posted on 20-Jan-2004 00:24 GMT by James Carroll112 comments
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Lets take this with a grain of salt until its confirmed, but theres a story on www.amiga-news.de which says they're closing in February.

Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck announced today that Thendic-France would be closed in February. Due to the difficulties associated with the bankruptcy of Pretory SA, Thendic-France will be closed. The original intention was to convey Thendic-France and/or it assets directly to Genesi to allow for an uninterrupted transition of services and coordination. This did not happen and will no longer be possible.

http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2004-01-00120-EN.html Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck will seek to arrive at an agreement with the proper authorities to close out the Thendic-France in a manner that reflects the original intent of the shareholders of Pretory and the Board of Directors/Management of Pretory as well as all valid legal obligations. Thendic-France will continue to operate until the closing and will do whatever possible to properly conclude the operation.
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 1 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 19-Jan-2004 23:31 GMT
That's Thendic-France closing, not Genesi.
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 2 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Jan-2004 23:48 GMT
> Lets take this with a grain of salt until its confirmed, but theres a story on www.amiga-news.de which says they're closing in February.

That is a confirmed fact, Thendic France closes. I would assume that the whole purpose of the exercise of building the new Genesi S.A.R.L was to close Tendic at some point.
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Posted by bbrockie on 19-Jan-2004 23:53 GMT
I've been in the dark for quite a while now, so please excuse my lack of knowledge.. Does this mean that the Pegasos boards have no future?
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 4 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 20-Jan-2004 00:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (bbrockie):
"Does this mean that the Pegasos boards have no future?" Why it wouldn't?
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 5 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Jan-2004 00:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (bbrockie):
> Does this mean that the Pegasos boards have no future?

Amiga boards per se have no future unless a dual G5 board drops from the sky next Wednesday ;-) That said, the Pegasos is made and owned by bplan and Genesi/Luxembourg puts money into the endeavor as a contracted partner. Thendic France is not relevant, it appears. Unless Genesi funding is affected by financial obligations its owners have towards Thendic France, which I hope is not the case.
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 6 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 20-Jan-2004 02:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
Actually we'd rather have just transferred the company to Genesi and kept it
going, but it's not going to happen.

Lots of Genesi stuff happening this week that ISN'T related to companies
shutting down, more to the contrary.. you saw the Motorola thing.

This is more than a website listing, the same as the IBM one - it means we've
been accepted under their wings as potential business partners instead of
fly-by-nights. You can bet we'll take up the opportunity to take advantage
of:

* Co-branding with Motorola on new products and in member collateral
* Ability to purchase development tools at a significant discount
* Ability to receive leads from Motorola's customers
* Ability to participate with Motorola in key industry trade shows and conferences

.. and all the rest of the benefits we're afforded, where afforded :) (IBM
offers much the same thing with their program).

It's not fair on anyone to keep running around "speculating" (which is a kind
word for "shit-stirring") that the Pegasos is dead when this is being set up,
and we just got offices in the USA, and are doing all kinds of [NDA PROTECTION
ACTIVATED] deals..

=Neko=
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 7 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Troels E on 20-Jan-2004 02:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Neko):
"Offices in USA"

So whats left of Genesi in Europe now? Has all of it been moved to USA?
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 8 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 20-Jan-2004 02:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Troels E):
No. Didn't you see all the fuss about Genesi moving into a nice office in the
North Las Vegas Cheyenne Technology Corridor? The new production facilities,
server farm, Pegasos Academy?

http://www.genesi.lu/press_20031119.php

Genesi "Europe" still lives on in the UK, German (bPlan), Swiss and head office
branch in Luxembourg - whatever happens, a French branch may re-appear or it
may not, I have no idea what Bill has decided yet ;)

http://www.genesi.lu/contact_info.php

=Neko=
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 9 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Mr. Anonymous on 20-Jan-2004 04:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (bbrockie):
Yes, but that has little to do with Thendic France.
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 10 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Mr. Anonymous on 20-Jan-2004 04:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Neko):
Basically, a developer program. Big Deal. Lot's of Companies have them.
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 11 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by gary_c on 20-Jan-2004 04:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Mr. Anonymous):
Basically, a developer program. Big Deal. Lot's of Companies have them.

And lots don't. Probably better to be on Motorola's list/radar screen re the MPC7447 than not, eh? Better to see the company's name popping up in significant places than being dormant, right?

-- gary_c
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 12 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Jan-2004 05:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Bill Hoggett):
but genesi will be next
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 13 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Jan-2004 05:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):
There is no such as bPlan anymore.
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 14 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by gary_c on 20-Jan-2004 05:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Anonymous):
There is no such as bPlan anymore.

Then who are these imposters? :-) (in photos taken a few weeks ago)

-- gary_c
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 15 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by opi on 20-Jan-2004 06:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (gary_c):
Cleaning crew? ;-)
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Posted by Don Cox on 20-Jan-2004 07:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Neko):
"Actually we'd rather have just transferred the company to Genesi and kept it
going, but it's not going to happen."

Who precisely is "we" in that sentence? Are your statements official company statements? Are you in a position of authority within these companies which authorizes you to make official statements?
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 17 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 20-Jan-2004 07:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Don Cox):
Who cares? :)
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 18 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Voice on 20-Jan-2004 08:04 GMT
ThendicFrance was Genesi main office because there were real office. What can you find in other countries? These so-called Genesi-Uk, Genesi-France and so on are just... resellers :(
What about Genesi Luxbg ? It's a mail box. What about Genesi in Germany ? It is bPlan. Genesi USA ? A wasted land in a desert (have you ever see any pic from there ?) and yada yada yada.
Why didn't Genesi pay for a new banner in Ann ?
This is not a dream. This is becoming a nightmare.

I have a Peggy and I'm sad to see the reality.
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 19 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 20-Jan-2004 08:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Don Cox):
"We" is Genesi, collectively.

There'd be all kinds of conspiracy theories and layoff claims if I talked
about the company I worked for in the "third person" context.

Anyway, hooligan/dcs is right. Who gives a toss? Do you really think it
matters how I address my employers, or if I'm specifically authorised to
re-post information contained in publically available articles?

=Neko=
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 20 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 20-Jan-2004 08:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Voice):
Note: Genesi UK is NOT the same as Pegasos UK. Both Genesi UK and formerly
Genesi France are actual companies.

=Neko=
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 21 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 20-Jan-2004 08:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Neko):
""We" is Genesi, collectively.

There'd be all kinds of conspiracy theories and layoff claims if I talked
about the company I worked for in the "third person" context."

So you are employed by one of these companies?

"Anyway, hooligan/dcs is right. Who gives a toss? Do you really think it
matters how I address my employers, or if I'm specifically authorised to
re-post information contained in publically available articles?"

So far as anyone knows, you are just making it all up. Anyone can post stuff about "we" will do this and that. The question is, why should anyone believe a word you say?

You speak as somebody in a senior management position, without there being any evidence that you are such.
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Posted by Atheist2 on 20-Jan-2004 09:04 GMT
How can we make money off of the soap opera we're generating?

I mean those threads on Moobunny are priceless! ("Are they dead yet?" and "Re:bbrv, It stinks")

Anyhow, I hate to say it but, if Genesi sink, it would really help the one that I'm rooting for.

Splitting the market will probably, sink both.

I'll leave it at that.


AmigaOne! AOS4.0! Available soon!
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 23 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 20-Jan-2004 09:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Don Cox):
@ Don Cox

> "Actually we'd rather have just transferred the company to Genesi and kept
> it going, but it's not going to happen."
>
> Who precisely is "we" in that sentence? Are your statements official company
> statements? Are you in a position of authority within these companies which
> authorizes you to make official statements?

Nekos comment above was BBRV's words (as seen here in the original post, on amiga-news.de and on the beta2 mailinglist) in slightly different wordings:

"The original intention was to convey Thendic-France and/or it assets directly to Genesi to allow for an uninterrupted transition of services and coordination. This did not happen and will no longer be possible."
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 24 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 20-Jan-2004 09:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Neko):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Note: Genesi UK is NOT the same as Pegasos UK. Both Genesi UK and formerly
Genesi France are actual companies.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Just for clarification, I can find no record of incorporation for Genesi UK.

http://ws4info.companieshouse.gov.uk/info/do_search.cgi

So how can be be an actual company?
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Posted by Eva on 20-Jan-2004 09:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Atheist2):
---Anyhow, I hate to say it but, if Genesi sink, it would really help the one ----that I'm rooting for.

Yes, sure. Enfact we're waiting for AmigaInc big crash (with all surroundings following)

---AmigaOne! AOS4.0! Available soon!
If "soon" means 2-3 years ...
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 26 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 20-Jan-2004 09:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Matt Parsons):
Genesi is a Luxembourg company with various satellite companies.
One of them is PEGASOS UK LIMITED (that is just there on the page you see).
Or we have to think that Hyperion doesn't exist because it's not on Uk-Companies list ...
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 27 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Bodie on 20-Jan-2004 09:45 GMT
I always thought that Genesi was the result of a merger between bplan and Thendic-France:

http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2002-11-00192-EN.html
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 28 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 20-Jan-2004 09:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Eva):
I found Genesi UK, no problem:

GENESI UK LIMITED

THE CLERGY HOUSE
CHURCHYARD
ASHFORD
KENT TN23 1QG

Status :Active 






Company No. :03856705

Date of Incorporation : 11/10/1999


Country of Origin : United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company

Nature Of Business (SIC(92)):

5232 - Retail medical & orthopaedic goods


Accounting Reference Date : 31/12

Last Accounts Made Up To : 31/12/2002 (TOTAL EXEMPTION FULL)

Next Accounts Due : 31/10/2004 

Last Return Made Up To : 11/10/2002

Next Return Due : 08/11/2003 OVERDUE


Last Members List : 11/10/2002


Previous Name :

24/09/2003

BIOTESTEC DIFFUSION LTD

25/11/1999

BIOTEST DIFFUSION LTD.
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 29 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 20-Jan-2004 09:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Eva):
Genesi Uk... was all I was talking about, and my question was directed at Matt, since AFAIK he is the only one who works there.
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 30 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 20-Jan-2004 09:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Don Cox):
Cheers Don, I must be Blind or something :-)

Interesting previous names though...
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 31 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 20-Jan-2004 09:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Don Cox):
> So far as anyone knows, you are just making it all up.

If that were to be the case, you'd see bbrv come here and debunk his words, but, as you see, he didn't come, and likely never will.
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 32 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Atheist2 on 20-Jan-2004 10:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Eva):
Hi Eva,

Well bbrv already left the ring, didn't he?

But, not to fear, this is a three ring circus!

He also left France, but may be going back.

Question is, as a witness, or a defendant?

To some it may seem that, it might be a race to see who gets to prison first, going on here.

And just when you thought you could change the URL.....


Amiga Saga! Deserves financial gain, for the pathos and comedy it affords us!
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 33 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Gabriele Favrin on 20-Jan-2004 10:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Eva):
>Yes, sure. Enfact we're waiting for AmigaInc big crash
>(with all surroundings following)

Maybe you are still waiting, but no one else :)
Neither AmigaDE developers (anyone? :) ) neither AmigaOne users:
Amiga Inc is nothing but flames floating over the net. We didn't see
announcements for months and no one ever seen real products by them
for years.

Btw. fact that AmigaDE sinked is better for all. Eg. Zaurus
can be programmed with PERL (and really soon even Nokia will
use PERL as an official supported programming language)
instead than be stuck with Amigade propietary and roialities
based stuff.

Both AmigaOne and PegasOS will offer some more years/months
to who still dreams to use Amiga, but this will (and is)
happening without Amiga Inc. No one needs them, neither
Hyperion, neither clone producers.

So no need to wait, Amiga Inc isn't important at all and since
they do not have money to defend thrir patents anyone can
do WHATEVER he want with Amiga related tecnogies.

From my point of view the current Amiga situation is good:
with a stronger Amiga company (with a wiser management) we
would not have clones but since we have these guys the
market is finally free and any company can compete in it.

Not that I like Genesis more than Amiga butat least there in
an alternative. Amiga market died due to lack of them.
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 34 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 20-Jan-2004 10:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Atheist2):
> Anyhow, I hate to say it but, if Genesi sink, it would really help the one
> that I'm rooting for.
>
> Splitting the market will probably, sink both.

I believe you might be a little hasty in your cheers here. Genesi might have counted on Thendics assets and this was probably a setback for Genesi from an asset/resource point of view, but neither you nor I can say anything of its eventual magnitude since we don't know anything about the corporate structures nor the investor situation. It could very well be that this means *nothing* to the Pegasos/MorphOS project (like BBRV says themselves) or it could mean that new paths needs to be found. Time will tell, but I don't think that anything is *sinking* here, stumbling at most, perhaps not even that.

"Splitting the market will sink both"? Are you really that naive that you actually believe that there is a fruitful Amiga market for HW/SW developers and resellers today? Do you actually think that anyone could live and prosper here today, with this market as their only income? Do you think that it's this market that for instance funds the Pegasos or MorphOS development? Or OS4 for that matter? No! It simply couldn't! It wouldn't have mattered the slightest if the market was splitted in 0 or 10 parts. It has always been about the future, and if the "split" has had any effect whatsoever from a community point of view then it only means that there may be *two chances* for a bright future for this community instead of only one. Amiga Inc hasn't exactly been alive and kicking for the last year, but during the last year I have personally enjoyed 1 Pegasos1 with April1, 1 Pegasos1 with April2, and now 1 Pegasos2, I have also seen and used every release of MorphOS from v1.0 to 1.4 (it wasn't until v1.2 that it really became usable as an Amiga replacement IMHO). So personally, I am glad that there has been options. No one looses, everyone wins. At least from a community perspective.

The Pegasos/MorphOS has made a lot of developers and resellers stick around, merely coping today perhaps but with their eyes on the horizon that suddenly appeared out of the 7 year old mist. "The one your'e rooting for" has done nothing such. There is only one community, and that community has much to thank Genesi for (like it or not). Without the Pegasos/MorphOS, what's left of the community would have suffocated in the "AmigaInc Trio" vaccuum long time ago. *IF* there in some mysterious way will be an OS4 release for the A1 that works *flawlessly* in all situations and some mysterious investor steps in to the AmigaInc Trio projects with a bag of money huge enough to actually *create a future* for that community option, then they too will enjoy the remaining developers, users and resellers in this community that has survived thanks to their "competitors". Alternatives is a good thing(tm).


> I'll leave it at that.
>
> AmigaOne! AOS4.0! Available soon!

Yeah, just another two weeks now! :-P

I'll leave it at that. ;-)
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 35 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Atheist2 on 20-Jan-2004 10:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Don Cox):
All together now, "Well, these boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do......"
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 36 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Atheist2 on 20-Jan-2004 10:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (takemehomegrandma):
Hi takemehomegrandma,

You make absolute sense in your statement. And very well said, too.

Unfortunately, I am following the source code. I do also believe in the team of coders making AOS4.0. I have total confidence in them, and their abilities, and their decisions.

Coding can be tedious, but often fun and rewarding. An addiction. The reward isn't necessarily financial. It's different, and special. (I've done (basic) coding and know.) And I feel that negavitism thrown at either group of SW writers and HW designers is awful.

It makes me sad that it turned out this way.

We'll just have to stand back and watch, financially supporting through purchases, the one we want to survive, if not dominate.


AmigaOne! AOS4.0! 100+ million PCs are sold each year, can't we all just get along?
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 37 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 20-Jan-2004 11:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Atheist2):
>Splitting the market will probably, sink both.

What you seem to forget is that, community is *NOT* split in 2...

Instead, it's split in... Let me count... Classic Amigas, Amithlon, AmigaOS XL, UAE, Pegasos, AmigaOne, Amiga Anywhere.

That makes 7, doesn't it?

And out of those choices 1 (Pegasos) (and okay, some Classic Amigas aswell) are quite close to the direction you see as "right".

I would be more worried about people moving to Amiga Anywhere, UAE and Amithlon instead, they're less likely to develop / buy any PPC software than Pegasos user (It is a fairly trivial task to code in way, program can easily be compiled for both AOS4 and MorphOS (And Classic Amigas (including UAE) too))
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Posted by takemehomegrandma on 20-Jan-2004 11:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Atheist2):
> Unfortunately,

Don't say "unfortunately", it's all up to you to choose only one. :-)

> I am following the source code.

So you are stickin' with 68k OS3.1/3.9 forever then? :-P ;-)

> I do also believe in the team of coders making AOS4.0. I have total
> confidence in them, and their abilities, and their decisions.

I too have the deepest respect of the OS4 developers and their abilities. Some design issues of OS4 I don't agree with, but that is another (strategic) matter, and has nothing to do with individual coders! Respect!
:-)

May OS4 be released soon, and may it be at least as Amiga compatible as MorphOS is, and may it be just as fast and offer the same Amiga feeling as MorphOS does! You, Atheist2, and your fellow followers deserves that after your long wait! And who knows, perhaps *it really is* just another two weeks this time!?
;-)
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Posted by takemehomegrandma on 20-Jan-2004 11:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Jupp3):
> That makes 7, doesn't it?

Classic Amigas - not developed since ages, nor the is the "Classic OS". RIP.

Amithlon, AmigaOS XL, UAE - emulation solutions to run the old, no longer developed "Classic OS" on PC's. These are only retro solutions for retro enthusiasts, nothing to build a future upon.

Pegasos with MorphOS, one of two NG branches. Has been available and usable for over a year now, which has resulted in a growing support from users and developers.

AmigaOne (a single product consisting of two components "made" by two companies, MAI's developers reference motherboard "Teron" together with Hyperions OS4 (oh and a third company, Amiga Inc, brings the brand to the party)), the other NG branch. Yet to become available. This will also get it's fair share of support from the community.

Amiga Anywhere - what's that?! Oh, that's the whole foundation of Amiga Inc, how sad that it has nothing to do with Amiga!
:-P ;-)

So I count to two solutions.
(Perhaps one could consider AROS to be a third ...?)
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Posted by Atheist2 on 20-Jan-2004 11:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (takemehomegrandma):
Thank you.

Good luck to, and enjoy, MorphOS 1.5, 1.x, 2.0+, etc.
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 20-Jan-2004 11:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Atheist2):
>Anyhow, I hate to say it but, if Genesi sink, it would really help the one that I'm rooting for.

How it would help Amiga? You think the ones intending to buy Pegasos now would suddenly change their minds and go for A1? I dont think so.

What would probably happen, if Genesi falls, is that some of the remaining developers and publishers would probably go away. Meaning, there would be even less software for your precious OS4 in the future.

my 2 cents
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Posted by Jupp3 on 20-Jan-2004 11:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (takemehomegrandma):
>Classic Amigas - not developed since ages, nor the is the "Classic OS". RIP.

Since when has reason like that stopped people using certain computer? :-)

Maybe not developed, but still used by many people...

>Amithlon, AmigaOS XL, UAE - emulation solutions to run the old, no longer developed "Classic OS" on PC's. These are only retro solutions for retro enthusiasts, nothing to build a future upon.

That just increases number of users of "dead system"

And about "dead systems not having future", well, not everyone WANTS a future... Some are perfectly happy IRCing on AmIrc, reading mail with YAM, playing classics such as Shadow of the Beast and Turrican series, Lemmings, The Settlers etc... (Maybe they use PC/MAC for other stuff)

Such people aren't too likely to buy newest power hungry PPC program/game (Compared to A1/Pegasos users, assuming game/prg supports both)

There might not be that many "classic amiga-only" users, but there aren't THAT many A1/Pegasos users either... It's percentage that counts...

>(Perhaps one could consider AROS to be a third ...?)

Meant to add that too, but forgot...
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 43 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 20-Jan-2004 12:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Atheist2):
For an Atheist, you seem to have a lot of Faith... :-o


@Jupp3 AROS maybe? :-)
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 44 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Jan-2004 12:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Voice):
"Genesi USA ? A wasted land in a desert (have you ever see any pic from there ?)"

Merlancia?
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 45 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Mr. Anonymous on 20-Jan-2004 12:45 GMT
Long Live, AROS!
I guess?
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 46 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Jan-2004 12:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Atheist2):
> AmigaOne! AOS4.0! Available soon!

Available too late. Three years ago would have been nice, two years ago acceptable, one year ago a gamble, now it is going to be a joke. A slow computer with technology from the SD-RAM area for a price as if made of gold ... that makes sense.
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 47 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Jan-2004 12:51 GMT
Hang on,

So does this mean that the contract between Amiga Inc and Thendic, that Genesi are suing over, is non transferrable and therefore goes down with Thendic?

Have Amiga Inc won by default? Will Genesi have to stop its AmigaDE site?
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 48 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by tonya on 20-Jan-2004 12:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Anonymous):
yep its merlancia :)
Thendic-France will be closed : Comment 49 of 112ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Jan-2004 12:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (Anonymous):
You don'ät seem to understand that pegasos is wery much like AmigaOne, it does not have fater cpu or huge amounts of power. You just descrobed pegasos.
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Posted by Anonymous on 20-Jan-2004 13:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (Anonymous):
You don't seem to understand that pegasos is wery much like AmigaOne, it does not have faster cpu or huge amounts of power. You just described pegasos.
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