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Posted on 28-Jan-2004 20:14 GMT by Nate Downes156 comments
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That's right, online sales are returning early! If you're looking for that PegasosII, the wait is over! PegasosPPC.com is back and ready to take your order.
Pegasos sales restarting : Comment 1 of 156ANN.lu
Message removed by Christophe Decanini for violation of ANN's posting rules.
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Posted by Darth_X on 28-Jan-2004 19:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (vortexau):
What are you trying to say? ;)
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Posted by Ronald St-Maurice on 28-Jan-2004 19:35 GMT
It's a shame that AmigaOne ATX motherboards are overpriced. The Pegasus are a much better value with 1GHz G4 CPU, Gigabit Ethernet and PCI-X slots. Too bad they're not running AmigaOS 4. :(

I hope they'll make AmigaOne Lite motherboards for under 500$ us.
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Posted by 4pLaYeR on 28-Jan-2004 19:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (vortexau):
Get a life fan(atic) its sickos like you that scare me away from even thinking about Amiga! maybe you fanatics like paying twice the price for a custom made PPC board (wich is infact a "evaluation board for reference design") (qouting mai.com) be my guest but dont expect other to be just as stupid! im sure you would even buy it if it was Microsoft that bought the Amiga brand and slapped the Amiga logo on a normal PC with a Win Aos version? bahh i promised myself not to post on ANN anymore but sometimes i cant help myself =).
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Posted by Emeric SH on 28-Jan-2004 19:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Ronald St-Maurice):
"The Pegasus are a much better value with 1GHz G4 CPU, Gigabit Ethernet and PCI-X slots."

Not to mention DDR Ram and the Marvel northbridge.
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Message removed by Christophe Decanini for violation of ANN's posting rules.
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Posted by DET Nicolas on 28-Jan-2004 19:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Emeric SH):
Well, there is no PCI-X slot, only "normal" PCI slot
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Posted by DET Nicolas on 28-Jan-2004 19:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Ronald St-Maurice):
Well, you can use MorphOS instead !
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Posted by Christophe Decanini on 28-Jan-2004 20:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Ronald St-Maurice):
PCI-X slots ? Even if it would be right, PCI-X would be quite useless for Joe user.
- Is it really available NOW or are the preorders resuming for the next production batch ?
- When will the resellers be shipped ?
- Can we expect it to be available for a few months or is it just another small batch ?
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Posted by Nate Downes on 28-Jan-2004 20:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Christophe Decanini):
I cannot speak for Genesi on this matter, but from what I understand:

- Is it really available NOW or are the preorders resuming for the next production batch ?

Available now.

I don't have any information for the rest of your questions, however.
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Posted by Ronald St-Maurice on 28-Jan-2004 20:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (DET Nicolas):
Well, you can use MorphOS instead !
No. It's an Amiga Inc/Eyetech problem. And it's a huge problem.

When the most expensive computer product is priced higher than the cheapest Mac computer then there is a serious problem. Mac are renowned for being expensive. Amigas aren't.
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Posted by itix on 28-Jan-2004 20:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Ronald St-Maurice):
Buy 100+ boards from Genesi, get licenses from Amiga Inc and U-Boot/OS4 from Hyperion. Now you have full A1 clone you could sell under another label :)
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Posted by Anonymous on 28-Jan-2004 20:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Ronald St-Maurice):
> Too bad they're not running AmigaOS 4. :(

Not yet, that is. It makes no sense for Hyperion to talk about OS4 for Pegasos mainboards while OS4 is still unfinished (even for the A1). But when that hurdle is taken, I wouldn't be surprised about a complete u-turn. The A1 hardware alone will simply not generate enough sales for OS4 and tapping into the Pegasos user base must be tempting. The good thing for Amiga Inc and Hyperion is that they do not have a big investment in hardware (poor Eytech does). Genesi, on the other side, could not afford to promote the A1 by selling MorphOS for it since they want to sell boards more than software.
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Posted by Ronald St-Maurice on 28-Jan-2004 20:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Christophe Decanini):
PCI-X slots ? Even if it would be right, PCI-X would be quite useless for Joe user.
With PCI-X, people can have better Hard drives and get better performance out of their system. I never understood why people pay outrageous sums like 500$ us for an ATI 9800 Pro video card then turn back and ask why people by expensive SCSI hard drives!

I have met some folks who want Ultra 320 SCSI hard drives only. And after testing SATA hard drives, I don't blame them. PATA and SATA are poor multitaskers and CPU hogs. SCSI should have been the standard long ago. <sarcasm>But then they would not have successfully screwed over the customer.</sarcasm>

I wanted a SCSI Ultra 2 Hard drive for my AmigaOne ATX motherboard but it's not a supported configuration. Even though the AmigaOne ATX motherboard has 1 PCI 32bit/66MHz slot which would be fine for SCSI Ultra 2 hard drive and a SCSI DVD-ROM drive.
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Posted by Nate Downes on 28-Jan-2004 20:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Ronald St-Maurice):
I have SCSI-2 on my Pegasos, runs nicely.
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Posted by Christophe Decanini on 28-Jan-2004 20:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Ronald St-Maurice):
I still don't get it. If the Peg2 had PCI-X what card would you use with it ?
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Posted by Christophe Decanini on 28-Jan-2004 20:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Nate Downes):
I have a LSI 875 (U2W) and it works nicely too.
I wished we had U320 supported for the sake of it but I don't think I would get expensive scsi drives ever again.
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Posted by Ronald St-Maurice on 28-Jan-2004 21:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Christophe Decanini):
I still don't get it. If the Peg2 had PCI-X what card would you use with it ?

IIRC MorphOS already support several x86 SCSI controller cards. Why can't they use PCI-X x86 Ultra 320 SCSI controller cards? If they write the proper drivers then what's wrong?

I guess I also don't get it.
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Posted by Nate Downes on 28-Jan-2004 21:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Ronald St-Maurice):
You hit the issue right there:

Drivers

Noone happens to have the docs for that card.
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Posted by Francois Prowse on 28-Jan-2004 21:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Ronald St-Maurice):
So does the pegasos actually have pci-x slots? If so this is news to me any quite a few other people.

If so is this PCI-X 1.0 or 2.0?

FP
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Message removed by Christian Kemp for violation of ANN's posting rules.
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Posted by Anonymous on 28-Jan-2004 21:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (AmiDelf):
You just killed off the motivation of yet another developer to care if any of my future stuff will run on your AmigaOS or to release anything at all for you Amiga(TM) fucktards.

Long live MorphOS, Amidelf (the self proclaimed idiot complainer)
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In reply to Comment 22 (AmiDelf):
Message removed by Christian Kemp for violation of ANN's posting rules.
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Posted by Nate Downes on 28-Jan-2004 21:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Francois Prowse):
Sad to say, the Pegasos does not have PCI-X at all, but PCI.
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Posted by Darth_X on 28-Jan-2004 21:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (AmiDelf):
FAKER!!! This surely can't be Amidelf, he's never posted such crap in his life!
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Posted by Ronald St-Maurice on 28-Jan-2004 21:50 GMT
Genesi should take out PCI-X from their press releases. I've always though they had PCI-X slots on the Peg2. My bad.

But then it doesn't matter. I'm not in the market for a Pegasus, I want an AmigaOne.
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In reply to Comment 27 (Ronald St-Maurice):
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Posted by Stefan Blixth on 28-Jan-2004 21:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (lempkee):
@ lempkee
Very mature and constructive comments, NOT...

BS are cheap... Try do some more and we'll see if you can collect
to a more valuable comment later on.

/ Develin
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In reply to Comment 31 (Stefan Blixth):
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Posted by Stefan Blixth on 28-Jan-2004 22:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Anonymous):
Keep em' comming and you might get awarded for the lamest spoof troll around.

/ Develin
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Posted by itix on 28-Jan-2004 22:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Argo):
Looks like we have got spoof flood today.
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Posted by lempkee on 28-Jan-2004 22:17 GMT
just to clear something , i have no idea what was WRITTEN in post 28 , BUT IS SURELY WASNT ME!

so to the guy using my nick, LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VERY LAME!!!!!!!!!!!

grow UP!
Pegasos sales restarting : Comment 38 of 156ANN.lu
Posted by lempkee on 28-Jan-2004 22:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (lempkee):
can someone give me the IP to poster 28 ?
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Posted by Christophe Decanini on 28-Jan-2004 22:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Ronald St-Maurice):
I don't get it because:
-1- Peg2 does not provide PCI-X slots
-2- PCI-X cards are rare and I have never seen anyone using one in a desktop. Maybe a server requiring a lot of IO or an NLE system without compression / several tracks would take advantage of it but I don't get what the regular user would gain.
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Posted by Christophe Decanini on 28-Jan-2004 22:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (lempkee):
Send your nick and pw you want to use with it to Christian to avoid impersonation.
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Posted by Christophe Decanini on 28-Jan-2004 22:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Christophe Decanini):
And I forgot
-3- inexisting driver for morphOS. I don't know for linuxPPC
Pegasos sales restarting : Comment 42 of 156ANN.lu
Posted by Ronald St-Maurice on 28-Jan-2004 22:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Christophe Decanini):
I don't get it because:
-1- Peg2 does not provide PCI-X slots
-2- PCI-X cards are rare and I have never seen anyone using one in a desktop. Maybe a server requiring a lot of IO or an NLE system without compression / several tracks would take advantage of it but I don't get what the regular user would gain.


-1- see Comment 27
-2- The regular user would gain speed and throughput. I have seen plenty of LCI Ultra 320 on-board chipsets in Dell and IBM workstations. Same chipset also used in low-cost(sub-1000$) Dell PowerEDGE servers with PCI-X slots. The Apple G5s also come with PCI-X slots. Video people would benefit from PCI-X immensely with Firewire. You want your CPU to spend as much time doing encoding and not waste it by taking a huge hit from the cheap IDE controllers. PCI-X should be standard by now. But then again IDE should have been phased out long ago.
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Posted by Johnathan on 28-Jan-2004 22:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Darth_X):
No it was actually Amidelf going by his IP address used on a different forum, i have no idea why he is insulting people like this as he never used to and he has always been friendly in his wacky way.

Morph and the peg are products which can be touched, where is this 2001 OS McEwen claimed? oh wait there is no OS so we must all back MOS because our gods have let us down.
Pegasos sales restarting : Comment 44 of 156ANN.lu
Posted by Johnathan on 28-Jan-2004 22:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Johnathan):
back = bash
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Posted by Ronald St-Maurice on 28-Jan-2004 22:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Christophe Decanini):
And I forgot
-3- inexisting driver for morphOS. I don't know for linuxPPC


-3- Linux and BSDs have Ultra320 controller card support. No idea for MorphOS. IIRC AmigaOS4 only supports the SCSI controllers for the upgrade cards.
Pegasos sales restarting : Comment 46 of 156ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 28-Jan-2004 22:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Ronald St-Maurice):
-> Video people would benefit from PCI-X immensely with Firewire.
Point taken. Even if firewire is not usable in morphOS ATM and if only a very small fraction of the people would ever go to PCI X / U320 controlers.

IMHO I would better have firewire and a nice NLE now than an useless PCI-X
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Posted by lempkee on 28-Jan-2004 23:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Christophe Decanini):
ok , i will...

btw the spoofer even used my EMAIL! ..

anyway some info i found about the looser who used my nick + email.

Name:ZOLOFT Email:hI0f1T0kfK6@hotmail.com IP Address: 63.207.175.147 (adsl-63-207-175-147.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)

i would be gratefull if someone told me who it is..
Pegasos sales restarting : Comment 48 of 156ANN.lu
Posted by lempkee on 28-Jan-2004 23:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (lempkee):
Keep quiet Morphians.


110% AMIGA ONLY!
Pegasos sales restarting : Comment 49 of 156ANN.lu
Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 29-Jan-2004 03:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (lempkee):
Elmer Delgado? :)
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Posted by hammer on 29-Jan-2004 04:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Ronald St-Maurice):
>I have met some folks who want Ultra 320 SCSI hard drives only. And after >testing SATA hard drives, I don't blame them. PATA and SATA are poor >multitaskers and CPU hogs. SCSI should have been the standard long ago.

Depending on SB chipset e.g. using MS's UDMA5 IDE drivers, nForce2’s IDE controller and 2Ghz CPU, the processor overhead is only ~0~5 percent** on 512MB MPEG2 file copying.

*Internet Firewall and bridge is on.
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