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[News] Open Desktop WorkstationANN.lu
Posted on 29-Jan-2004 08:57 GMT by A.Scott Pringle38 comments
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From IBM's website

"The Open Desktop Workstation is based upon the Genesi Pegasos, a CHRP based motherboard. Integrating selected Open Firmware and running multiple (15+) operating systems, the Workstation is an extremely efficient, very expandable hardware solution for personal and business computer requirements.

The Open Desktop Workstation is available as a turnkey, built to order solution with a number of configuration packages available, including multiple distributions of open-source Linux, and OpenBSD. Other options are available on request.

The combined reference designs and open standards give the Open Desktop Workstation the flexibility to unleash PowerPC onto the desktops of the workplace and the server racks of the small business. The desktop version allows the workplace to have a level of conformity between servers and office equipment reducing the total technology overhead. Providing a natural path of progression from user to system administration the desktop version can minimize outside training requirements. Rack mount versions provide the small business and educators with servers that not only perform, but perform silently, consuming less power, and with the reliability expected from PowerPC.

Running several distributions of Linux out of the box along with OpenBSD, the Open Desktop Workstation will be capable of running future Linux distributions by virtue of the open standards adopted by its design. Being customizable to particular needs, the Open Desktop Workstation may be used with its own closed source Operating System for enterprises that require it.

The Open Desktop Workstation, whether using closed or open source systems, is available in both "do it yourself" and as a complete turnkey system built to the specifications of many enterprises both large and small.

IBM
http://www.developer.ibm.com/solutions/isv/igssg.nsf/list/bycompanyname/86256B7B0003EBBF86256E28007693B4?OpenDocument

Motorola
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/dap.detail.framework?CUSTOMER=1-1FWKAK&DapId=1-1FWKAK&NEXT_SCREEN=DETAIL&Service=Tool+%26+Hardware%2FSoftware+Vendor&fromDevToolProdNodeId=
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 1 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 29-Jan-2004 08:14 GMT
:-O

I didn't expect to see this on IBM's and Motorola's sites so soon! :-)
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 2 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 29-Jan-2004 09:23 GMT
Good luck guys

Cheers
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 3 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 29-Jan-2004 10:06 GMT
By association... does that mean IBM have officially recognised AROS :-o ;-) :-D
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 4 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 29-Jan-2004 10:11 GMT
BTW, there is also a somewhat informative post from BBRV about the thoughts behind this over at morphos-news.de:

http://www.morphos-news.de/comments.php?lg=en&nid=626
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 5 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 29-Jan-2004 10:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Matt Parsons):
Perhaps they will ... when AROS runs on the Pegasos! :-P
When is that BTW?
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 6 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 29-Jan-2004 10:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (takemehomegrandma):
Probably when they lock some coder up in the cellar untill it's finished ;)
Or we could give said coder Hooligan's p0rn collection as motivation ;)

Cheers
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 7 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 29-Jan-2004 10:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (takemehomegrandma):
Real Soon Now! (tm)
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 8 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Jan-2004 10:26 GMT
Wow. This is big!
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 9 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 29-Jan-2004 10:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Amon_Re):
> Probably when they lock some coder up in the cellar untill it's finished ;)
> Or we could give said coder Hooligan's p0rn collection as motivation ;)

Hehe, that would do the trick! :-)

(There are two ways to "inspire" a horse to get moving, you can use a whip and you can use a carrot ;-))
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 10 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 29-Jan-2004 10:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (takemehomegrandma):
Carrots and whips... this site is getting just too kinky for me...
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 11 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 29-Jan-2004 14:31 GMT
The day IBM or Motorola buy some industrial quantities of Aone or Peg, I switch to become a priest.
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 12 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 29-Jan-2004 14:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Ben Yoris):
This announce is BS.

If you search a bit on for example : http://www.developer.ibm.com/solutions/isv/igssg.nsf/list/bycompanyname/86256B7C0019CE5B86256C71006DE610?OpenDocument

you'll see that most of the text (if not all) have been cut'n pasted from other solutions like for example : Teron CX, Teron PX, Articia S etc...

Who is taking us for fools ?
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 13 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 29-Jan-2004 14:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Ben Yoris):
Have a look here too :

http://www.developer.ibm.com/solutions/isv/results.nsf/Results2/908A08626CACA66186256E2A0055D86D?OpenDocument


This announce is hot air.
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 14 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Gregg on 29-Jan-2004 14:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Matt Parsons):
Very promising - compliments to the various teams involved in getting this far. I think this puts into perspective earlier announcements of Genesi courting IBM; maybe those who dismissed it at the time would like to reconsider their words...

Of course, maybe they're just not "suave"* enough to appreciate this...

Somebody been playing with their thesaurus again, eh?

Gregg

* : If you want to know what I'm wibbling about, follow the "Business case.benfits" link from here.
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 15 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 29-Jan-2004 14:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Ben Yoris):
You mean Mai stole the words off of my typewriter?

What thieves!
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 16 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Steve on 29-Jan-2004 15:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Ben Yoris):
@Ben Yoris

Sorry, but should I understand that you weren't clever enough what the IBM Global Solutions Directory is? It's just a part of the IBM web site that list the solutions provided by 3rd parties that use an IBM technology. Almost NONE of the solutions listed are directly developped/endorsed by IBM. The only link with IBM they have is that they use a IBM technology, there is quite none of them that are supported via a partnership or something like that by IBM.

So this kind of informations on both IBM Global Solutions Directory or the Motorola equivalent section, have almost NOTHING to do with IBM and Motorola and are rarely directly marketed/supported by them. This is more a a marketing tool used by IBM and/or Motorola to show that third parties use their technologies.

That's why for IBM or Motorola, MAI Logic or Genesi or Marvell or any other company using IBM or Motorola technologies are NOTHING more than simple customers and there is no real partnership between them. If you thought that this "announcement" was meaning that Genesi is in partnership with IBM and/or Motorola, then try to be more intelligent next time.

This announcement is only that they will offer a new product that will use IBM and/or Motorola technologies. And as nothing to do with any partnership between them and IBM/Motorola.

So if you understand and read the information cleverly and not stupidly, then you can't affirm it's hot air. It may be and may be not. It depends if they will do this product or not.

But in the sens you misundertood it, of course a partnership with IBM/Motorola is hot air as it doesn't exist and as this announcement doesn't mean that, it was even NEVER announced in any way.
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 17 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Gregg on 29-Jan-2004 15:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Ben Yoris):
While only being incrementally substantive, Ben, it does seem to be a little more than "hot air"; on the other hand, I can't see much substance in your "cut-and-paste" claim; care to elucidate?

Gregg
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 18 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 29-Jan-2004 16:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Gregg):
I agree Gregg.

While on the one hand, IBM supports their partners (customers of ppc chips) and this is little more than that type of recognition.

On the other hand, its not just vapor. I mean they produced a ppc motherboard, and they are an IBM customer. So its a fitting tribute to the
actual achievement, which did occur.

I think these types of announcements are just fine on a slow news day.
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 19 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 29-Jan-2004 17:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
But mine is bigger.

:)

=Neko=
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 20 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 29-Jan-2004 18:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (MarkTime):
> I think these types of announcements are just fine on a slow news day.

Indeed! :-)
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 21 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 29-Jan-2004 21:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Nate Downes):
Wouldn't it be the other way arround? With this being new & all, and MAI not? ;)

Cheers
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 22 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Jan-2004 23:12 GMT
If nothing else, they are on the radar of IBM and Motorola at least.
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 23 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by A.Scott Pringle on 30-Jan-2004 08:38 GMT
MorphOS has just been listed as a validated Operating System in the Motorola Design Alliance Member Directory.

Things just keep getting better 8)
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 24 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 30-Jan-2004 08:59 GMT
OK you're all right.

I'm not clever enough and while I'm typing thousands of Pegasos and Aones are being produced and sold to Motorola and IBM.

Sorry for the inconvenience guys !
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 25 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Graham_nli on 30-Jan-2004 09:32 GMT
Another huge massive long link ... grrr.
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 26 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Steve on 30-Jan-2004 10:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Ben Yoris):
@Ben Yoris
"I'm not clever enough and while I'm typing thousands of Pegasos and Aones are being produced and sold to Motorola and IBM."

Are you really stupid or have you reduced reading capabilities?

I said EXACTLY the CONTRARY of that. In these announcement, there is NOTHING that can make anyone conclude that there is a REAL partnership between IBM/Motorola and Genesi or Eyetech/MAI Logic.

So basicly I said exactly that they are NOT selling thousand of Pegasos and AOnes to Motorola and IBM and that there is nothing in the announcement that can make you conclude that.

Next time learn to read instead of interpreting what I said as the exact contrary of what I really said.

There is NOTHING in THESE ANNOUNCEMENT that INDICATE A RELATIONSHIP between IBM/MOTOROLA and GENESI and/or EYETECH/MAI LOGIC. These is A SIMPLE PRODUCT DESCRIPTION on the pages of IBM/Motorola website dedicaced to customers that make use of IBM/MOTOROLA products for their products. So in the announcement you can ONLY conclude that GENESI and/or EYETECH/MAI LOGIC are CUSTOMERS of IBM/MOTOROLA, NOTHING MORE!
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 27 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 30-Jan-2004 11:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Nate Downes):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You mean Mai stole the words off of my typewriter?
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

You use a Typewriter!!! :-o

I think I saw one of them in a museum once... :D
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 28 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 30-Jan-2004 11:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Steve):
You know what ... I clicked reply to this comment on the wrong comment.

And it's very interesting to read your reaction, typical of ANN posters :)

Sorry for the trouble.
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 29 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 30-Jan-2004 11:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Ben Yoris):
Apparently I didn't even reply to any comment !

Once again, I'm sorry for the trouble. I retire to improve my reading abilities and understanding.

Bye !
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 30 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Gregg on 30-Jan-2004 13:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Ben Yoris):
Hey, if you're going to spank yourself, please don't do it in public - it's a private vice, you know...

Gregg
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 31 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by magnetic on 30-Jan-2004 15:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Ben Yoris):
Ben,
Get your "white collar" out because Genesi may sell lots of units to industrial customers soon.

:-D
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 32 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Mr. Anonymous on 30-Jan-2004 23:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Ben Yoris):
sort of like bankruptcy.com
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 33 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Mr. Anonymous on 30-Jan-2004 23:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Ben Yoris):
Ah, so it's like those fill in the blank fake news sites.
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 34 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Mr. Anonymous on 30-Jan-2004 23:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Gregg):
Right, It's more like warm fog.
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 35 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 31-Jan-2004 09:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (magnetic):
I just can't wait !

Spank me baby !
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 36 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 01-Feb-2004 11:54 GMT
I had to triple-check the date on this thread, because I got a severe case of deja-vu just now.

Haven't we been over this one before? I mean, not the news item, but the discussion?
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 37 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Golem on 01-Feb-2004 12:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Ole-Egil):
And how is that different from any other thread? :)
Open Desktop Workstation : Comment 38 of 38ANN.lu
Posted by Wazaz on 03-Feb-2004 14:36 GMT
Wazzaz?
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