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[Motd] MOTD 6/Feb/2004ANN.lu
Posted on 06-Feb-2004 12:45 GMT by Christian Kemp (Edited on 2004-02-06 13:46:00 GMT by Christian Kemp)89 comments
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Some of you might be aware that I signed a full-time employment contract with Genesi S.à.r.l. in Luxembourg to start December 15th 2003. I didn't make an official announcement on ANN because I didn't plan (and expect) it to change anything as far as ANN was/is concerned. I spent most of January 2004 telecommuting from the United States, but unfortunately, not everything worked out the way I had expected it to, and yesterday I handed in my resignation with Genesi. Next Monday, I will be starting at a new job in Luxembourg. Once more, this should not influence ANN in any major way, except that my available time might be more limited, and I will probably not be able to do any moderations or updates during the day.
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 51 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 06-Feb-2004 17:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (MarkTime):
"your word is gold with me. I say this because, you did run ann.lu quite independently and you always have."

I agree.

Glad you got a new job quickly, Christian. Best wishes.
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 52 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by JurassicCamperClone on 06-Feb-2004 17:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (pug):
Hi JurassicCamper, didn't you promise to not post to ANN anymore?
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 53 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 06-Feb-2004 17:35 GMT
heh whatever...
get a life kids

bad luck, thunder and terorist attacks with your new job christian ;)

just joking.. just had to do the opposite of most of the well wishers in this thread withch in the amiga kkkomunity is quite suprising, (percentage of positive comments) so christian must be doing a fine job with ann...
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 54 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Stevey on 06-Feb-2004 17:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (cheesegrate):
As much as we all winge and complain about allowing anonymous posters etc, bias, blah, blah.... I think we can all agree Mr. Kemp has done a good job of keeping this place going. Good luck with your new job.
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 55 of 89ANN.lu
In reply to Comment 46 (Eva's Evil Twin):
Message removed by Christophe Decanini for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: insults
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 56 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 06-Feb-2004 17:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 54 (Stevey):
> As much as we all winge and complain about allowing anonymous posters etc, bias, blah, blah.... I think we can all agree Mr. Kemp has done a good job of keeping this place going. Good luck with your new job.

Exactly as Stevey says, ann.lu is the only forum that comes close to allowing freedom of speech, depspite the anonymous trollers, and so on. Keep going and good luck on your next ad-venture! ;)
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 57 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Lecta on 06-Feb-2004 18:06 GMT
Good luck for your new job, Christian!
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 58 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by DoomMaster on 06-Feb-2004 18:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (Eva's Evil Twin):
HEY! You do not know what you are talking about when it comes to laughing!

Only I can say HAR!

HAR !!! HAR !!! HAR!!!

_DoomMaster_
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 59 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 06-Feb-2004 19:00 GMT
Best of luck to you with your new job!

Cheers
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 60 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 06-Feb-2004 19:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Eva):
I wish ann.lu had subtitles... :)
(Just teasing you Eva)

Cheers
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 61 of 89ANN.lu
In reply to Comment 55 (Eva):
Message removed by Christophe Decanini for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: follow up to insults
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 62 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by anonymous on 06-Feb-2004 20:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Anonymous):
How come neither you nor Wayne will just come out and say what happened?

What did you DO exactly at Genesi? What did Wayne actually do? Why are you both now "non-associated?"
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 63 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 06-Feb-2004 20:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (anonymous):
And why don't we just all mind our own bussiness?

Cheers
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 64 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by ToDi on 06-Feb-2004 21:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (anonymous):
Anonymous was working for Genesi? :-O
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 65 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Dresing on 06-Feb-2004 21:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Christian Kemp):
> My relationship with Genesi is over, and I'm trying to draw a line under the episode without spreading any further bad blood. Frankly, the experience was a frustrating one for me, but for me to go into any other details in public at this point in time seems counter-productive.

There are certain Red Trolls who would pay big $$$ to get the *dirt* on this Genesi scandal.

What is your price mr Kemp? you say the word, we pay the pal.


Before we get completely lost:

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-11-514016.html?legacy=zdnn

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-247540.html?legacy=cnet

"The first partner, a British Amiga supporter called Eyetech, will sell Amiga circuit boards in the first quarter of 2001, McEwen and Eyetech said. A German company, bPlan, will build an entire computer.

"They are the first two of many," McEwen said in an interview today."


So ironic...
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 66 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 06-Feb-2004 21:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (Wayne Dresing):
?? What's *that* got to do with Christian?

Cheers
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 67 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by anonymous on 06-Feb-2004 22:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 66 (Amon_Re):
I'm a red troll, and can honestly say I wouldn't put up any money for that info. Any other red trolls wanna put up some cash?

Anybody?

no?

hmm...
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 68 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by smithy on 06-Feb-2004 23:34 GMT
Good luck with the new job Christian.

BTW, I didn't realise you used to program PowerBuilder systems too? I remember those days fondly... a new day, a new struggle with "features" of the implementation!
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 69 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Rob on 07-Feb-2004 01:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (ToDi):
There have been rumours of this in the past. Personally I don't think
Buck needed to pay anyone to talk a load of bollocks on ann. He's
perfectly capable of that himself.
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 70 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Graham_nli on 07-Feb-2004 01:39 GMT
Good luck in your new job.
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 71 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Feb-2004 06:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 67 (anonymous):
Red or blue, it ain't our freaking bussiness :)

Cheers
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 72 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 07-Feb-2004 07:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (Darth_X):
"Exactly as Stevey says, ann.lu is the only forum that comes close to allowing freedom of speech, depspite the anonymous trollers, and so on."

The MooBunny is even more free, but most people feel that it goes too far. (I don't).
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 73 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 07-Feb-2004 07:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 71 (Amon_Re):
"Red or blue, it ain't our freaking bussiness :)"

I disagree. If you are trying to decide whether to commit yourself to a new computer platform, such as Pegasos, you want to know whether the company is well managed and stable, or whether you are likely to be left holding an orphan computer.

Personally, I would also want to know how good the documentation of the product is.
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 74 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by gary_c on 07-Feb-2004 07:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 73 (Don Cox):
"Red or blue, it ain't our freaking bussiness :)"
I disagree. If you are trying to decide whether to commit yourself to a new computer platform, such as Pegasos, you want to know whether the company is well managed and stable, or whether you are likely to be left holding an orphan computer.

Well, you probably have an idea of the success rate of tech start-ups; almost any new computer platform has a fairly good chance of failing, so if your concern is avoiding orphans, you should stick to mainstream options. This is the ragged edge we're involved with here, more ragged at times than we'd like. That Genesi has had extenuating circumstances to deal with in the last several months is well-known (and check out bbrv's "More Details soon on the Pretory site" for some specifics). The Pegasos project hasn't been directly affected, but surely the Pretory business has been a distraction for Genesi management.

I don't see how the details of specific employee situations are the business of any outsider, potential customer or otherwise. What is important for customers and investors is having an impression of solid management. If the company can carry out its business properly, it doesn't matter if, behind the scenes, the original staff stays on forever or if employees come and go on a daily basis. In other words, its the results that count. So we'll see.

Personally, I would also want to know how good the documentation of the product is.

Like a lot of small operations working on fast-developing projects, the documentation is lagging way behind the software and hardware. It's more important to pay engineers than tech writers at this point in time. Also I think there's a certain "corporate culture" shift that has to be made as the project becomes more a public product and less the pet of techies. Again, we'll see what happens.

-- gary_c
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 75 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 07-Feb-2004 09:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (gary_c):
"What is important for customers and investors is having an impression of solid management."

Even if it is a false impression?


" If the company can carry out its business properly, it doesn't matter if, behind the scenes, the original staff stays on forever or if employees come and go on a daily basis."

In practice, it isn't possible to run a business well with a high turnover of staff. The best businesses keep their staff for decades.

The reasons for people leaving are also relevant. For example, a company where the management have no technical knowledge but insist on making technical decisions. (Commodore).
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 76 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 07-Feb-2004 11:32 GMT
@ Christian Kemp

It's good to hear about your new employment, good luck!
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 77 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by redfox on 07-Feb-2004 14:53 GMT
@ Christian Kemp

I wish you all the best in your new job.

---------------
redfox
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 78 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Jan Smite on 07-Feb-2004 19:16 GMT
First, good luck with your new job!


Second, take you all a look at it with some perspective: what did Buck need? The support of as many amigans as possible. And a good move to achieve this was to hire two of the most respected webmasters in the Amiga platform, from two of the most known Amiga related websites. Well, now it seem that he doesn't need them anymore...

Please, Christian, keep the good work on ANN.

J.S.
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 79 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Ferry on 07-Feb-2004 19:18 GMT
@Christian Kemp

Best whishes for your new job!!

Saluditos,

Ferrán.
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 80 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 07-Feb-2004 20:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (Don Cox):
it would be nice if moobunny displayed IP addresses.
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 81 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Hamstar on 07-Feb-2004 21:51 GMT
Choosing between a Pegasos+MorphOS or an AmigaOne OS4 is like choosing between the car or the hot chick:

http://www.wickedweasel.com/galleries/weasel/model_ziah2/ziah2_12.asp
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 82 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Chain|Q on 08-Feb-2004 00:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Christian Kemp):
> (And to pre-empt any questions on why genesi.lu isn't available right now: I don't know. Wasn't me.)

The page is available as www.genesi.lu. Seems like a DNS server configuration problem, but nothing else.
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 83 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Bodie_CI5 on 08-Feb-2004 06:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 81 (Hamstar):
I'd go for the bottom part of the picture :0
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 84 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 08-Feb-2004 08:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (Darth_X):
"it would be nice if moobunny displayed IP addresses."

Yes, it would.
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 85 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 08-Feb-2004 10:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 83 (Bodie_CI5):
> I'd go for the bottom part of the picture :0

Me too, the question is only if it would be the left or right part ...
;-)
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 86 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 08-Feb-2004 17:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (takemehomegrandma):
Why not have both? ;)
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 87 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 08-Feb-2004 22:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 86 (Darth_X):
Yeah, and a cold beer to go with that! 8-)
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 88 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Feb-2004 07:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (Don Cox):
I know it's tempting to see IP adresses on Moobunny, but that's not really accomplishing anything, someone that want's to be anonymous will be anonymous. Moobunny just makes it easier.

ps: Anyways, John knows :) He busted me for trying to stuff a ballot, trying to get Shitcan2 up to it's rightfully deserved "5" :D
(I HAD it to 5 too, till some bufoon decided to blashphemately vote lower!!!)
MOTD 6/Feb/2004 : Comment 89 of 89ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2004 18:30 GMT
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