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[News] Pegasos II support in GentooANN.lu
Posted on 06-Feb-2004 20:24 GMT by David Holm19 comments
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The Pegasos II is now supported by the Gentoo ppc-sources-dev-2.4.24 kernel. This kernel also comes with support for cryptoloop (to create encrypted filesystems), GRSecurity 2.0-rc4, access control lists and a lot of other stuff. For those of you who have an existing Gentoo installation from a Pegasos there is a bootable kernel with Pegasos II support available on http://dev.gentoo.org/~dholm/ppc.html. There is also an updated installation kernel for those of you who want to install from scratch.
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 1 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Feb-2004 19:29 GMT
ET for kernel 2.6.2? :D
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 2 of 19ANN.lu
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Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 3 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Feb-2004 20:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (David Holm):
Lighten up Francis. MorphOS doesn't even support TCPIP yet.
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 4 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by David Holm on 06-Feb-2004 20:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
You have to ask Sven Luther about 2.6. He's writing the Pegasos II support patches since he has access to the hardware documentation. I just merge his latest patches with the Gentoo kernels and update the installation kernels etc.
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 5 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 06-Feb-2004 20:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (David Holm):
Whatever floats your boat, have a nice weekend

Cheers
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 6 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 06-Feb-2004 20:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (David Holm):
Could you tell abit more about the Gentoo distribution? Like what it's advantages are over eg Mandrake & Debian?

Cheers
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 7 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 06-Feb-2004 21:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Amon_Re):
http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml

All your questions will be answered, just ask Larry The Cow :)

=Neko=
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 8 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 06-Feb-2004 21:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Neko):
So basicly this is the same old as all the others, except that packages are distributed in source form & compiled on the spot?

If that's the case i wouldn't gain that much to switch, given i compile almost everything myself anyway.

Still, this would be a good thing for people not willing to do it themselves.

Cheers
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 9 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 06-Feb-2004 22:09 GMT
Do I hear "Amon_Re Linux" distro? ;)
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 10 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Feb-2004 00:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Amon_Re):
It's a hell of alot more than that! if you don't realize the power of the make.conf file, there's just no way to explain it to you! :)

Gentoo is the way Linux SHOULD have been from the beginning!

I've been using BSD for years because of the PORTS system, now I can actually make world on linux! Gentoo is the first linux system to have it's own PORTS system.

Gentoo isn't really a distribution, it's just a set of tools used to manage the Portage tree. You can use the gentoo toolkit on other linux systems as well, although with slightly less functionality. I've "gentoo'ified" my 'linux from scratch' system so I could use emerge and portage to maintain the system.
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 11 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by David Holm on 07-Feb-2004 07:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Amon_Re):
The most important difference to other distributions is that you set optimisation flags for your specific platform. Everything you download and compile will be optimised for your machine. The speed difference isn't as big as it is on x86 yet since AltiVec support is not as mature as SSE and 3DNow! in GCC yet. But as Apple is improving it it is getting better by the version. The difference between using unoptimised vs optimised binaries on a Pentium 3 is huge.

The second big difference is something Gentoo shares with Debian. That is that you can easily update and install new applications, dependencies are handled automatically. Updating Mandrake or any other RPM-based distro is a lot of work, tracking down dependencies etc, and you have to figure out when new versions of applications are released by yourself.
Gentoo and Debian is updated on a daily basis and you can chose to update all installed applications at your own discretion (I usually update once every other day to stay as current as possible).
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Posted by takemehomegrandma on 07-Feb-2004 11:38 GMT
Good news! Thanks! :-)
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 13 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 07-Feb-2004 14:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Amon_Re):
If you like spending weeks compiling everything for very little gain Gentoo is for you ;).
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 14 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 07-Feb-2004 15:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (David Holm):
"The difference between using unoptimised vs optimised binaries on a Pentium 3 is huge."

Biggest gains are in the kernel, libc and applications like mplayer everywhere else you can expect very little or nothing at all.
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 15 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Feb-2004 19:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (corpse):
Weeks? What are you running, a 386? I can emerge WORLD in less than 12 hours, and that in itself is optional, as yo CAN set up from precompiled binaries.
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 16 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Feb-2004 21:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (corpse):
Sounds that way, although i usually do compiles anyway :)

Cheers
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 17 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Feb-2004 21:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (David Holm):
Updating Mandrake isn't that hard, well, not on the 9.x series of the distro.
"urpmi --auto-select" will update your packages too (if you configured it to download from the 'net, and your local index files are up to date), but you would only get generic packages.

But Gentoo does sound like something worth checking out the next time i need to install a box.

Cheers
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 18 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 07-Feb-2004 22:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anonymous):
"Weeks? What are you running, a 386? I can emerge WORLD in less than 12 hours, and that in itself is optional, as yo CAN set up from precompiled binaries."

12 hours for a kernel and shell maybe .. I know from experience Xfree86,Gnome/KDE, OOo etc take a fair while to compile on a "fast" machine.
Pegasos II support in Gentoo : Comment 19 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Anon on 07-Feb-2004 22:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Amon_Re):
Nice thing about Gentoo is there are really no "versions" of gentoo... When you install it, you have the most up-to-date packages available. You never have to upgrade the entire system to another "version. "

It's highly addictive. Once you go Gentoo you never go back!

When I want to install on a friends machine I precompile packages with his target specs, dump them on a CD, add the CD to his portage path, then emerge -K world and it installs the precompiled binaries.

Another neat thing about Gentoo... we are actually winning BSD users over!
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