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Posted on 21-Feb-2004 03:00 GMT by Bill Panagouleas17 comments
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DiscreetFX is always striving to find more ways to raise funds for the AmiZilla Project. We wish to motivate programmers to spend more time working on this contest so that Amiga/MorphOS/AROS users can also enjoy the rich browsing experience of the Mozilla/FireFox platform as soon as possible. DiscreetFX is always striving to find more ways to raise funds for the AmiZilla Project. We wish to motivate programmers to spend more time working on this contest so that Amiga/MorphOS/AROS users can also enjoy the rich browsing experience of the Mozilla/FireFox platform as soon as possible. Other Operating systems have enjoyed Netscape/Mozilla for years, even the ill fated BeOS. Amiga API based systems should no longer be missing out on this great application. Programming of course takes time, effort and hard work. Porting Mozilla/FireFox is of course a difficult but reachable goal. Some members of the community have been hoping for rapid progress for AmiZilla. But for a team of programmers to be interested in spending more time on the project the incentive must be higher. So today we are opening the AmiZilla Shop, here your able to buy in stock AmiZilla merchandise and have it shipped within 1-3 days. All proceeds minus manufacturing go to the AmiZilla Booty which has almost 100 members including a former Netscape Executive. Enjoy your AmiZilla products now and help build an even higher contest winning for the AmiZilla programmers. Use your AmiZilla products proudly and have yourself added to a growing list of AmiZilla supports. AmiZilla, with your efforts will succeed and help grow the respect for Amiga/MorphOS/AROS and increase the user base beyond its current levels. There may be no future for Amiga type systems without a standard web browser platform like Mozilla/FireFox. We have built a online store for your shopping pleasure with a wide variety of products. Even if you can only afford to buy a $5 sticker every little bit helps AmiZilla. Or if your more adventurous maybe a AmiZilla thong for your girlfriend or a nice sweater will be more to your liking.

http://www.amizilla.org

Best regards
Bill Panagouleas DiscreetFX Founder/CEO bill AT discreetfx DOT com www.discreetfx.com
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Posted by smithy on 21-Feb-2004 08:10 GMT
What progress has been made? Any estimated time of arrival? You mentioned on amiga.org that 2 teams were at work on the project - any chance of a status update from either of them?
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Posted by Repoman on 21-Feb-2004 10:39 GMT
Yeah we need to know what is already ported to help
Plz answer!
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Posted by Anonymous on 21-Feb-2004 12:13 GMT
Since my last update postings to the Amizilla group have increased substantially.

* Four threads asking about the status of the project
* Two threads arguing about the project direction
* 1 spam, plus 4 replies about spam
* 2 test messages, one huge
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 21-Feb-2004 12:33 GMT
>Or if your more adventurous maybe a AmiZilla thong for your girlfriend or a nice sweater will be more to your liking.

thongs.. now we're talking! :)
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Posted by Don Cox on 21-Feb-2004 13:02 GMT
"DiscreetFX is always striving to find more ways to raise funds for the AmiZilla Project. We wish to motivate programmers to spend more time working on this contest so that Amiga/MorphOS/AROS users can also enjoy the rich browsing experience of the Mozilla/FireFox platform as soon as possible."

IMO it would be better if a coder who is interested in working on a web browser joined the IBrowse or Voyager teams, rather than working on a port from another platform.
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Posted by T1k on 21-Feb-2004 14:08 GMT
For me it's extremely weird that the ppl developing Aweb, IBrowse and Voyager hasn't joined forces. Doing so would have resulted in a pretty decent browser me thinks.
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Posted by 3seas on 21-Feb-2004 15:49 GMT
considering its about "porting" something already existing...

Perhaps the interesting information is"

What is making porting such a difficult thing to do to warrant a bounty near 9 thousand dollars and growing?
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Posted by Anonymous on 21-Feb-2004 16:08 GMT
what will you do of all this money if nobody is interested into "your"
project ?

and remember that money cant do everything, at least not with all
people and especialy not in this comunity
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Posted by Bill Panagouleas on 21-Feb-2004 16:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (smithy):
Well the team in Russia working on it don't want to discuss their progress since they want to win the contest.
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Posted by Bill Panagouleas on 21-Feb-2004 16:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
If the project is a failure all money will be returned.
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Posted by Anonymous on 21-Feb-2004 16:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Bill Panagouleas):
How will you decide if the project is a failure?
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Posted by Bill Panagouleas on 21-Feb-2004 16:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Anonymous):
If all the members that contributed to the project come into agreement that it is a failure.
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Posted by smithy on 21-Feb-2004 17:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Bill Panagouleas):
>Well the team in Russia working on it don't want to discuss their progress
>since they want to win the contest.

What about the other team?
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Posted by Bill Panagouleas on 21-Feb-2004 17:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (smithy):
The other team is on the AmiZilla mailing list so if you want to know their progress you only have to ask on that list.
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Posted by Anonymous on 22-Feb-2004 08:46 GMT
I was always curious why we (Amigans) are always doing things upside-down.
First what we do is Amiga-specific name and logo, and then just lot of talks...

People still complain why we want port mozilla and not develope Ibrowse or other Amiga specific outdated browsers. I think its simple. Multiplatform open source projects are developed by hundreds of people and we simply havent enough expericend mens anymore, to be able compete and follow the future...
FireFox is fast topnotch browser with great name and logo and all we need is to get the Amiga between officialy supported platforms...

The same situation is around office applications. People still complain about WordWorth, FinalWriter and others... OpenOffice.org is quite big but its only open source office package with good enough Microsoft compatibility, which is I am sorry to say, essential these days! AbiWord is very interesting but Word compatibility is still very bad...
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Posted by Don Cox on 22-Feb-2004 09:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (3seas):
"What is making porting such a difficult thing to do to warrant a bounty near 9 thousand dollars and growing?"

The GUI will have to be rewritten to work in MUI or Reaction.

It would also need ASL screen and font requesters, and an ARexx port, if it is to work as an Amiga program. Amiga OS is a very different beast from the Unix-style OSes.
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Posted by o1i on 23-Feb-2004 08:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Don Cox):
"The GUI will have to be rewritten to work in MUI or Reaction.

It would also need ASL screen and font requesters, and an ARexx port, if it is to work as an Amiga program. Amiga OS is a very different beast from the Unix-style OSes."

The GUI is not the first problem. First of all, you have to get a huge
build environment to configure, to port the nspr library, to find a way,
to replace the unix shared libs with something working under AmigaOS etc. etc.

Then you can think about GUI stuff or even AREXX.
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