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Posted on 22-Feb-2004 21:26 GMT by ikir30 comments
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While celebrating the launch of the new dedicated 2Mbit line, Ikir Sector is proud to announce, after an experimentation phase lasted 4 months, that the IkSNet web portal, and all the other associated sites, are running on an AmigaOne G3-SE web server. While celebrating the launch of the new dedicated 2Mbit line, Ikir Sector is proud to announce, after an experimentation phase lasted 4 months, that the IkSNet web portal, and all the other associated sites, are running on an AmigaOne G3-SE web server. The web server is financed by Alternative-Technology, while the technical managment is assigned to Soft3. You'll find more informations about it on our site. You are all invited to visit www.iksnet.it and to try the server. Ikir, Sector, the Italian Alternative Computing web portal. Please note: the line may be overloaded due this announcement.
Ikir Sector - IkS
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The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 1 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by news on 22-Feb-2004 20:57 GMT
The site seems a bit slow. Perhaps you forgot to enable DMA?
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 2 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 22-Feb-2004 21:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (news):
"The site seems a bit slow. Perhaps you forgot to enable DMA?"

It came up here as fast as any similar site. It may be safer not to enable DMA. ;-)

Point is, it is working.
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 3 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 22-Feb-2004 21:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (news):
I bet he has four hard drives... on a Pegasos he'd only be able to have two ;)
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 4 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 22-Feb-2004 21:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
Pegasos users have more money and can afford big HD ;)
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 5 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 22-Feb-2004 21:41 GMT
Website looks nice btw. It even works with my good old IBrowse 1.22 :-)
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 6 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 22-Feb-2004 22:05 GMT
There are websites hosted on MorphOS - so in this case an OS4.0 site would be more interesting, promoting the product by it's stability or instability, which anyone could test.
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 7 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 22-Feb-2004 22:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
Why only two ?
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 8 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 22-Feb-2004 22:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Emeric SH):
OS4 or MorphOS should NOT be used as server OS. They are BOTH lacking too much stuff for that like multi-user, true Memory protection, full ressource tracking and a LOT of software

MorphOS should only be use a a client OS ATM. It could change later.

Bye
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 9 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by bluvi on 23-Feb-2004 00:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
Actualy it runs on Linux Debian, it is PPC motherboard linux powered web server
not OS4. check it out at amigaworld.net
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 10 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by XraalE on 23-Feb-2004 00:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
The lockups related to using both IDE channels on a Pegasos *some* users experienced have been fixed for MOS 1.4.2. So trying to wriggle out the UDMA issue for A1 by putting shit on Pegasos (metaphorically) isn't going to work for you today. :)
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 11 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by James Carroll on 23-Feb-2004 01:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
I thought that was the market Eyetech were going after.. low power consuming servers?
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 12 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 02:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (James Carroll):
they might do that, but I bet they will be using Linux and not AOS on these machines.
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 13 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 23-Feb-2004 06:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (James Carroll):
Yes, low consuming, low heat, but the server is very fast. It runs without any problem a lot of website and 2nd level subdomain with thousands of unique access everyday, thounsands of forum post in only one of these about 6 website.... since last week with a 126kbit line :-)

The server is doing very well, Linux Debian is impressive under AmigaOne. maybe in the future is we'll have a OS4 server version..... :-D
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 14 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 10:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (ikir):
I advice you do NOT use OS4 as server. It's a silly than to use an AOne, especially the SE.
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 15 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 23-Feb-2004 10:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
As i've said the AmigaOne SE is a very good server for many reasons.
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 16 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 10:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (ikir):
Especially DMA and memory trash ...

You tried some stress DMA tests ?
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 17 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 23-Feb-2004 11:25 GMT
No problems here. And i don't want to feed trolls.

All the user has noticed a very good performance, stability increse when we put up the server. People who are beOs, Linux, MacOS users, not Amiga users.

Also this night we have had more that 1500 hits only on the main website, without counting about 3000 hits on the forum, all with an hign php/mysql intense work (statistic are all on our server and track everything, and the author don't recomend it on slow machine).

Simply this server rocks, if you want to agree or not.

See you guys.
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 18 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 11:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (ikir):
Come on! you know DMA / mem is not safe...
No troll, only truth ...
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 19 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Elwood on 23-Feb-2004 11:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anonymous):
Read better please: they say that with no DMA, the server is really fast. So why the hell this crap DMA is for ? I mean, it's already fast without it.
When times comes, they will use DMA. But for now, it's stupid to talk about it... Period.
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 20 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 11:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Elwood):
Advertissing that DMA is not really needed on a computer in 2004 is crap: yes.
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 21 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by batman on 23-Feb-2004 11:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anonymous):
hallo! french boy behind a tele2.fr cheap server! How are you? :-)

Do you love to throw FUD on other people?!? No way! :-D
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 22 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 23-Feb-2004 15:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (ikir):
Yes, low consuming, low heat, but the server is very fast. It runs without any problem a lot of website and 2nd level subdomain with thousands of unique access everyday, thounsands of forum post in only one of these about 6 website.... since last week with a 126kbit line :-)

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but to provide context - DaemonNews.org, which doubtless handles a good chunk of load, ran on a K6-2 400 until a few days ago, and wasn't obviously slow for it. Tons of sites run on old Sparcs or worse.

Webserving doesn't get ridiculously CPU-intense until you get into the realm of dynamic content, and even then, it's not always going to be as bad as Cisco and Dell might want to sell you on. Static content won't even be disk-intense, since most of the pages you want will be read once and hang around in cache "forever" -- and even PIO IDE should be able to outpace 2mbit/s, when you do have to perform reads. (Since most Linux filesystems do better than synchronous commits, writes aren't a problem, to a point.)

The server is doing very well, Linux Debian is impressive under AmigaOne. maybe in the future is we'll have a OS4 server version..... :-D

What /is/ important to webserving is basic stability, and if this thing can grow an uptime, that bodes well. :) As to serving from OS4 or anything else -- well, everyone's heard the tales of the US Army using Macs (pre-OS X), and there's no particular reason why you can't -- just don't play games on it at the same time (if you want to guarantee stability), and be extra-sure your network stack and httpd are free of unchecked buffers and other potential nasties.
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 23 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 15:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (ikir):
> Linux Debian is impressive under AmigaOne.

*giggle*

Oh, you're not joking?

If you're really that easily impressed, try running it on good hardware some day and prepare to be blown away. Any 440BX based P-II box from 1998-99 should have you wet your pants in no time. Go to a fleamarket or dig around in trash landfills and you could pick up a few almost for free.

Don't try modern hardware just yet. It might be too much to handle for you, if you're impressed by Debian on a Teron. Better take it a little step at a time.

Have fun Ikir!

BTW, "The world's first AmigaOne public webserver"?

You mean nobody's ever ran apache on a Teron since they first appeared in 2001?

OK, now THAT is impressive. ;-} Not as impressive as the C-64 webservers or that ARexx webserver (forgot its name), but still...
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 24 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 23-Feb-2004 19:56 GMT
I've stated my opinion before, probably we have different opinion, no problem, but stop rolling :-)
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 25 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 21:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
there are LOADS of sites that you can go to that are hosted on AmigaOS
(be it with Apache or GW3S)
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 26 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by batman on 24-Feb-2004 10:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Anonymous):
teron != amigaone, ladyboy (why are you hiding behind a proxy? Don't be shy!!) :-)
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 27 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Feb-2004 10:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (batman):
AmigaOne = Teron with Amiga logo sold by Eyetech
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 28 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Hagge on 24-Feb-2004 11:45 GMT
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The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 29 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Hagge on 24-Feb-2004 11:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Hagge):
It also works as a webserver ;D as can be seen on - http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html

Plus you don't need no expensive AmigaONE mb
The world's first AmigaOne public webserver : Comment 30 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by batman on 24-Feb-2004 12:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Anonymous):
AmigaOne == tweaked and bugfixed Teron, sorry :-P
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