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[Unmoderated] Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed companyANN.lu
Posted on 22-Feb-2004 22:55 GMT by spybot150 comments
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Hermans is going to sue Epic because he can't stand MorphOS See details. Here are some quotes from Hermans from a recent IRC chat:

"They'll reap what they've sowed. Buck really should learn how to use Google."
"Should have messed with us when they still had money to pay banner ads or the employees."
"ask Thomas Steiding from Epic."
"he has to appear in court for breach of contract."
"the port he approved for distribution and which lists him explictly as betatester? ;)"
"Epic is the MorphOS obsessed German gaming company"

Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 1 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by The Riddler on 22-Feb-2004 22:14 GMT
Are you Shitstirring AGAIN ??
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 2 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 22-Feb-2004 22:38 GMT
Yet another "spy" in #amigaworld taking things out of context to cause trouble.

/me yawns
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 3 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by XraalE on 22-Feb-2004 22:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (IanS):
Yeah, he/she/it should be using anonymiser to post personal attacks then telling all his/her/its friends. Isn't that the way you'd do it?
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 4 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 22-Feb-2004 22:44 GMT
I can only be near to all serious Hyperion developers, from Frieden bros to Amidog to Max Tretene.
Really, with that Ben around to put shit on Hyperion ...
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 5 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by derf on 22-Feb-2004 22:44 GMT
wow, managing to cram a 2 hour conversation into a few lines is a mighty task. i wish someone would own up to this so we can all admire and respect them.. :D
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 6 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 22-Feb-2004 23:42 GMT
Nothing new about the lawsuit against epic.

Read the former statement here:
http://ann.lu/comments2.cgi?show=1072375434&category=news&number=23#comment
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 7 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by James Carroll on 23-Feb-2004 00:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Eva):
Eva needs a fuck.
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 8 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 23-Feb-2004 01:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (James Carroll):
...and you need a bar of soap in your mouth.

Thomas, we will assist you with legal representation if you need it.

R&B
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 9 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by NeRP on 23-Feb-2004 01:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (bbrv):
Bill Buck needs a fuck
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 10 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Leki on 23-Feb-2004 01:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (NeRP):
and from a female this time ;)
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 11 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by NeRP on 23-Feb-2004 01:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Leki):
Fill in the blank, Leki:

GET YOUR ____ OUT!
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 12 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 23-Feb-2004 01:45 GMT
Funny guys.

http://www.flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/98012.shtml

Best wishes!

R&B
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 13 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Leki on 23-Feb-2004 01:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (NeRP):
___ ____ TITS ___
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 14 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by NeRP on 23-Feb-2004 01:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (bbrv):
You're dreaming, buddy

If your so called contract with Amiga, Inc lets you do all that, then Hyperions contract with Amiga, Inc gives them so much more, especially with Amiga, Inc's cooperation.
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 15 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 23-Feb-2004 02:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (NeRP):
Seems we have yet more fun and games from the FUD-meister himself.
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 16 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 02:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (bbrv):
Has it been your intentions all along to just get the Amiga brand or did (do) you have plans with AmigaDE (intent 1.0) ??

How is status regarding AmigaDE, has it been ported for PPC yet?
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 17 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Tigger on 23-Feb-2004 02:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Anonymous):
Tao says Intent runs on PPC, so your issue is what exactly??
-Tig
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 18 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 23-Feb-2004 02:56 GMT
How come NeRP doesn't have an account at ann.lu to get trusted user status?
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 19 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 02:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Tigger):
There's more to a computer than just a CPU. Who would port Intent to run on MorphOS (or if not on MorphOS, on the bare Pegasos hardware)? unless it's a clone of a supported OS (which I'm pretty sure it is not), it's going to be a non-trivial exercise, that will occupy at least one programmer and one QA engineer a number of weeks to do (even if the Pegasos is treated as a Linux box for the purposes of this exercise, I'm sure Tao would want to make sure that Intent works 100% on PegXLin). That is Tao's job, not Amiga Inc's (unless Amiga Inc had some sort of co-ownership of the Intent code, something I really doubt). AmigaInc's job would be to make sure the Tao libraries collectedly known as "the Amiga DE" work on Morphos Intent, and make any changes necessary to make sure that it does.
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 20 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by NeRP on 23-Feb-2004 02:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Darth_X):
Because of the irony of how people like "BBRV" are "trusted users".

No thanks. I'd rather be "untrustable"
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 21 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 03:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (bbrv):
>Thomas, we will assist you with legal representation if you need it.

Of course you will, asshole
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 22 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by bluvi on 23-Feb-2004 03:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (bbrv):
Best Wishes too,
now genesi and morphos team can move on
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 23 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 03:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (bbrv):
Just wait and see. Sooner or later you'll get a nasty surprise General Failure.
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 24 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 03:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
Looks like Bill Buck has decided he really doesn't need Hyperion on his side. One thing is jabbing each other online, quite another is to side with an opponent in a lawsuit. I really don't think he's ever wanted OS4 on the Pegasos, unless of course he was planning to take it by force all along. Reading this comments online, this would not be a huge surprise.
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 25 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 23-Feb-2004 03:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (James Carroll):
Don't we all?
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 26 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 23-Feb-2004 05:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (IanS):
@Ian
> Yet another "spy" in #amigaworld taking things out of context to cause trouble.

"Epic is the MorphOS obsessed German gaming company"

How many ways of taking _that_ quote out of context there are? I think that number is close if not equal to 0.

Anyway, thus you confirm those are real quotes? Thanks very much.
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 27 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by hnl_dk on 23-Feb-2004 05:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (bbrv):
@ bbrv (ok, only bb)

I am getting sick of you!!!

Please leave this community!!!
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 28 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by hnl_dk on 23-Feb-2004 05:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (hnl_dk):
should have been comment no. 12
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 29 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 23-Feb-2004 05:57 GMT
I'm lost. Wish I knew what this was about.
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 30 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 06:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Fabio Alemagna):
@Fabio

"Epic is the MorphOS obsessed German gaming company"

Where do you conclude that they are about to be sued over it?
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 31 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 23-Feb-2004 06:41 GMT
I think some one is out to damage Hyperion, no company makes official statements at the weekend, nor can I se any relevance between the quotes and about suing Epic,

On the other subject; Hyperion don’t like Epic it’s only natural, they are competing after all, if I where Hyperion; then I shore I will not sue them; I rather get control over Epic, by baying shares, Epic has good developers and Hyperion have there hands full developing OS4.0 they need more developers to do game ports; if they are going to position them self in tiny market, expecting to grow some.
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 32 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 06:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (bbrv):
@Thomas

Get the money up front, remember what they did to Kemp with one of their "offers".
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 33 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 23-Feb-2004 06:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Anonymous):
I didn't conclude anything, I just asked how could one put that sentence out of context, given that it's pretty self-contained.
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 34 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 23-Feb-2004 07:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Fabio Alemagna):
Arbitrarily arguing for and against the same thing are we, Fabio? Care to tell us once and for all if you prefer things in it's appropriate context or not?

Anyhow, Ben Hermans personal opinion stated on IRC is not neccessarily an official statement by Hyperion Entertainment, now is it? This whole thread is pointless and should be removed.
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 35 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 23-Feb-2004 07:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Fabio Alemagna):
How do you know that it is self-contained? Because it almost forms a valid sentence structure? The thing about taking things out of context is that single sentences/snippets are not the whole discussion.

If we were discussing, and I said "you're a moron" and then later said "ok, sorry I called you a moron" then we might part as friends.

If I discuss with someone else and says "Fabio is a moron" and later "ok, my bad, Fabio is correct, I am the moron" then depending on how much of the conversation you read you might be seriously offended, or you might become my friend. This is why context is a GOOD THING (TM) ;-)

In fact, if someone later takes single sentences from _this_ post out of the context they were written in and posts them to you in an email that says "see what Ole-Egil said about you", you could be lead to believe that I am calling you a moron. A bit far-fetched, seeing as you're NOT that stupid, but context is still a good thing :-)

I don't have ANY clue as to context in THIS matter, though. Therefore I choose to NOT speculate. And I would advice everyone else to do the same :-)
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 36 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 23-Feb-2004 07:13 GMT
Oh my, I thought it was a troll thread and thus deleted in a few minutes. These quotes are for real? There must be a huge heap of frustration and hatred there...
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 37 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 23-Feb-2004 07:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (bbrv):
Woo, care to send some popcorn along too? Oh, btw, bugger off (tm)

Cheers
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 38 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 23-Feb-2004 07:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (samface):
> Care to tell us once and for all if you prefer things in it's appropriate
> context or not?

I do, of course, and, unless the whole sentence gives a completely different meaning to that piece of text, that text is in its appopriate context. For example, if I say "You are an idiot" (mind you, it's just an example), does it matter in which context I put that sentence? I called you an idiot regardless of the context that sentence was in, and that's all that matters.
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 39 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 07:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (bbrv):
Ouch!

You just declared war to Hyperion !
Well, I don't like Hyperion so I won't cry...

Anyway, if the "AmigaOS 4" lost its name, it's nothing anymore ...

Bye
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 40 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 23-Feb-2004 07:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Ole-Egil):
That's why I _asked_ how could one put such a statement out of context, and didn't outright say it's in its right context. It is a self-contained sentence, though (of course, unless it's been mangled).

Anyway, obviously some of the readers of this thread read those sentences "live", so all we need is someone provide us with the right context. Bet that won't happen, tho ;-)
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 41 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 23-Feb-2004 07:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Anonymous):
They can call it barbieOS for all i care, i'll still buy that over a Pegasos running MOS.

And Genesi going after Hyperion? well, that would surely be an intresting case

Cheers
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 42 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 07:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Amon_Re):
Notice that they have a list of things they want to do, they haven't done 1 yet, it will be a while before they get to 2.
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 43 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 07:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Anonymous):
Two more weeks (TM)

99% done out this summer (C)
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 44 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 23-Feb-2004 08:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (Fabio Alemagna):
Not if you later on in the same context states "Sorry, I was wrong, I'm the idiot".
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 45 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2004 08:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Anonymous):
1500 Peg2s sold to IBM Japan ( NOT!!! )

1400 Peg and Peg2s sold to the world ( NOT!! 600 + 180 so far )

We paid for the banner advert on ANN and decided that there was no point in advertising and forgot to inform Christian Kemp ( NOT!!! )

We are going to release the elipsis at the end of this year ( NOT!!! )

etc...
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 46 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 23-Feb-2004 08:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (samface):
Imagine if I posted this:

--- 8< ---

How about if I would say, for example:

You're an idiot.

Of course I don't think you're an idiot for real, I'm just using this sentence as an example. However, if I really would say this to you, wouldn't that be rude?

--- >8 ---

Did I just now call you an idiot or not? I mean, the sentence "You're an idiot" is by your own reasoning self-contained, is it not?
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 47 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 23-Feb-2004 08:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (samface):
>Not if you later on in the same context states "Sorry, I was wrong, I'm
>the idiot".

And you know that Ben wrote this?

Ben, if you're reading this, please post to this thread with words to the effect of "Sorry, I was wrong, I'm the idiot", so that we all know your words were taken out of context. Thanks.
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 48 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 23-Feb-2004 08:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (samface):
> Not if you later on in the same context states "Sorry, I was wrong, I'm the
> idiot".

It wouldn't change the fact that I said you're an itiot in the first case, and that's all I, and many others, care about.
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 49 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 23-Feb-2004 08:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (samface):
I'm confident that's not what has happened. Wanna bet?
Hyperion to sue Epic for being a MorphOS obsessed company : Comment 50 of 150ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 23-Feb-2004 08:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Fabio Alemagna):
Ah, the old "I'm not talking to her because of what she said about our Shane" type of grudge that will quite happily escalate into warfare. At least now we know what type of person YOU are ;-)

This was a joke, btw. But since you obviously only care about first impressions I'm sure we're now at war, right?
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