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[Web] Coyote Flux: Major Site Update!ANN.lu
Posted on 16-Mar-2004 15:16 GMT by Coyote Flux (Edited on 2004-03-16 18:51:25 GMT by Christophe Decanini)35 comments
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The website has been updated with new information about CoyoteFlash and J Miner (EE). An optimized version of the website will be added soon for Amiga and mobile platform users.

CoyoteFlash has been updated (1.2) with several bug fixes over the last version. Get it here. In the meantime, many changes have been made to our photogrammetry package J Miner including the support for exporting 3D objects in common file formats such as LOW, C4D and DXF. J Miner now runs on a seperate screen in any resolution and supports several new 3D reconstruction features. Several screenshots have been added to the J Miner page, all created using the latest version of the program.

Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 1 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by bennymee on 16-Mar-2004 14:24 GMT
www.coyoteflux.nl
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 2 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Coyote on 16-Mar-2004 14:28 GMT
We made a slight mistake in our submission, we hope this can be edited. The news appears double and our website name is missing.

Very sorry for the inconvenience.

Coyote Flux
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 3 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Elwood on 16-Mar-2004 15:11 GMT
Hi,

I noticed this on the web site: "This program will not work with MorphOS!"
Did I miss something ? Didn't you want to work for MOS ?
I don't understand...
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 4 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Mar-2004 15:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Elwood):
They too were screwed over by General Failure.
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 5 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 16-Mar-2004 15:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Elwood):
There is bad blood between Coyote Flux and Genesi, apparently.
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 6 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Coyote Flux on 16-Mar-2004 15:34 GMT
Yep!

Over and out.
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 7 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hickman on 16-Mar-2004 15:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Peter Gordon):
I wonder if Buck tried to pull his tactics with Coyote Flux that he's currently working with Amiga? Hopefully Buck will finally drop out of the picture and move on with his life away from computers in general.

Everybody now... Jig Jig Jig
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 8 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Elwood on 16-Mar-2004 16:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Coyote Flux):
@CoyoteFlux

Ok, them welcome back ! :-)
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 9 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 16-Mar-2004 16:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Bill Hickman):
Jugs jugs jugs jugs!
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 10 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Felix on 16-Mar-2004 17:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Coyote Flux):
Where's that great Amp plugin you where suppose to release ?
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 11 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Tryo on 16-Mar-2004 18:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Felix):
Yeah, and where is that gread revolutionary 3D engine that you were supposed to release?

Regarding "This program will not work with MorphOS!" just shows are mature you are.
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 12 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 16-Mar-2004 18:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Tryo):
Eerm.. why bother even mention it? It's only _one_ app for crying out loud .. hardly turns the world upside down even if some MOS-detection code is bolted in and it will never work on MOS, right? :)

Cheer up!
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 13 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Mar-2004 21:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Tryo):
so... it's better with programs that only run on MothOS?
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 14 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by tonya on 16-Mar-2004 21:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Tryo):
jay miner use the 3d engine , so i think u need to show how mature you are and apologize!
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 15 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by tonya on 16-Mar-2004 21:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (tonya):
face it guys , genesi is making more problems that it can handle , alot more teams will do the same because of all the NON PAYMENTS and empty talks about paychecks.

ROCK ON coyote flux! , i am looking forward to yer projects...lookin good!
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 16 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Mar-2004 22:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (tonya):
Just remember that MorphOS does not belong to Genesi. :-)
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 17 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Mar-2004 22:25 GMT
Welcome back Coyote Flux!
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 18 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Tryo on 17-Mar-2004 06:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (tonya):
Apologise for what? A question?
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 19 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by ujb on 17-Mar-2004 09:41 GMT
I think itīs a childish behavior to actively neglect the fastest platform for that software. OS 4 is not out, the Peg2 outperforms the A1. The program is for WOS and MOS is compatible for that, so no additional work for MOS would be required.
Well, they may do so. itīs their product. But I think itīs childish like a whinig kid because the bag of sweets was not as big as promised and therefore it does not want any sweets anymore.
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 20 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 17-Mar-2004 10:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (ujb):
It's childish to use a ī instead of an apostrophe character. It appears quite mature to me to boycott unwanted and parasitic platforms (well, I had rather included _both_ MorphOS and OS4 for that matter, but that may follow later when OS4 is out.)
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 21 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 17-Mar-2004 11:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (ujb):
The saddest part is: Coyote Flux has problems with Genesi/MOS developers and the ones who suffer, are users who have done nothing to deserve it :)
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 22 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Alfred Schwarz on 17-Mar-2004 11:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
It doesn't? Did you tell that to bbrv? They seem to think it's "their" OS.

Ciao, Alfred
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 23 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 17-Mar-2004 11:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Alfred Schwarz):
Like Amiga Inc pretended AmigaOS was their OS?
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 24 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by oGALAXYo on 17-Mar-2004 11:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (hooligan/dcs):
> The saddest part is: Coyote Flux has problems with Genesi/MOS developers and
> the ones who suffer, are users who have done nothing to deserve it :)

Yes actually I do share your view here. I find it quite stupid to NOT support certain architectures even if the code stays the same (mostly). It would probably take him only 1 minute to generate a working app for all Amiga API compatible architectures but now he spends 1 days to make it NOT work on certain systems.

And yes, the users at the end are the ones who will lose. But good to know that we have all the great developers working on the MorphOS architecture these days.
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 25 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 17-Mar-2004 11:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Elwood):
Maybe someone could patch JMiner to work on MorphOS. Since MorphOS supports natively Warp3D and WarpUp it should be fairly easy.
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 26 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 17-Mar-2004 11:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Alfred Schwarz):
MorphOS belongs to the MorphOS team. The copyright of each part of it belongs to
the one that made it... not Genesi. The Pegasos is still a bPlan product.
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 27 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by tonya on 17-Mar-2004 13:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Tryo):
did u forget what you wrote??

grow up.
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 28 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by ujb on 17-Mar-2004 14:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Anonymous):
No, that one is not childish, itīs just that English is not my native tongue and my keyboard layout is just like that (Amiga kbd German layout). The difference between ī and ' might be of that importance like ä or ae (i. e. does not matter). But if it serves you better I'll switch to that, I am flexible and do not stuck to a certain POV.
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 29 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Framiga on 17-Mar-2004 15:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Coyote Flux):
OMG!! you too :-(

IIRC we are meet to you and your brother to Pianeta Amiga a couple of years ago . . .am i wrong?

The same BB habit . . to use the persons and then to throw them :-(

Sad ever more sad.

Ciao :-)
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 30 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Tryo on 18-Mar-2004 07:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (tonya):
When you promise to learn how to read properly I might consider growing up.
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 31 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Alfred Schwarz on 18-Mar-2004 11:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
> MorphOS belongs to the MorphOS team.

And I thought, the MorphOS-Team is part of Genesi?

> The copyright of each part of it belongs to the one that made it... not Genesi.

Well, being a programmer myself, everything I'm writing for my employer belongs to him, not me.

> The Pegasos is still a bPlan product.

And I thought bPlan is part of Genesi (as is the MorphOS team)?
Well, if not I wouldn't understand why Genesi tells the court that AmigaDE has to be ported to the Pegasos.

Really, this is no flaming, I just try to understand that
you are telling:
- MorphOS does not belong to Genesi
- Pegasos does not belong to Genesi but bPlan

but things I'm reading from bbrv/Genesi tell me:
- MorhOS belongs to Genesi
- Pegasos is a product of Genesi (as there is no more any independent "bPlan GmbH")

So, which parts did I get right or wrong?

Ciao, Alfred
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 32 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 18-Mar-2004 12:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Alfred Schwarz):
I apologise, I was wrong. I've been notified that bPlan is indeed a part of
Genesi.
I am sorry for posting misinformation. :(
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 33 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 18-Mar-2004 12:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
On the other hand, I know that some MorphOS developers are not employees of
Genesi SARL. I guess that someone "from inside" could clarify that point.
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 34 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Felix on 19-Mar-2004 06:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Felix):
And where's that great Amp plugin you where suppose to release ?
Coyote Flux: Major Site Update! : Comment 35 of 35ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 19-Mar-2004 16:15 GMT
I think it's immature to whine about possible non-support from a
program that's not out yet.

Come on, when JMiner is released things might look a lot different and
Coyote Flux may have reconsidered their stance. Who knows. Until then,
I think it's really pointless to whine about this statement.
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