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[News] Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINEANN.lu
Posted on 26-Mar-2004 14:52 GMT by Mikey C364 comments
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Answers many questions, including "That Business Card" Amigaworld.net
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 301 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by vortexau on 27-Mar-2004 15:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 233 (Eva):
> I will summmirize all in one word: FUD.
. . . now it's the time to stop to put shit on the Amiga name. It's the time to
> put a STOP on this ridiculous soap-opera and these pitfull liars as AmigaTm managers.

Ah! THIS post sounds like the real 'Eva'. :) The earlier posts (artributed to Extra Vernacular Activity) were too articulate to be considered quite genuine.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 302 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 27-Mar-2004 15:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 299 (Joe):
> Hare is the new conman on the Amiga scene.

Meet your new god, same as your old god.

Oh wait, that's another website. Have you seen how much worship they are trying to catch up on over there? I mean come on people! Wake up!
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 303 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 27-Mar-2004 15:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 294 (vortexau):
Except for personal attacks, do you and your ilk do anything else when you troll Amiga boards?

In the absence of factual evidence - factual evidence which both red and blue sides often go out of their way to bury as deep as possible - hypotheses are all we have. It is human nature to seek reasons behind the unexplained. When people do their utmost to keep things in the shadows, or plain flat out lie in an attempt to explain mysteries, then others will look for the truth where they can find it.

It's quite amazing to see how many people - all of them of the same political persuasion - get so thoroughly irate when others refuse to take the words of one man on blind faith as being gospel.

Worship him if you want, but this is not AW, so the rest of us can make our own minds up irrepective of whether you approve or not.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 304 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Joe on 27-Mar-2004 16:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 302 (Anonymous):
haha to much worshipping there. a bunch of people singing the praises of a scum bag who they do not know, just look at Hare as the new cancer on the Amiga scene and that poisonous infection under the name "KMOS" can not be removed.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 305 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by JKD on 27-Mar-2004 16:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 250 (smp266):
>We have everything we were yelling for 10 years ago: PCI slots, ATX form factor. The components we
> can install are the same as those in the PC mass-market.

But I think the majority of people who wanted that must have sodded off to PCs - otherwise there would be sales of the Pegasos (and/or A1) in the 10s of 1000s no?

...they probably wanted all those things 5 years ago or more and got fed up waiting and games in the meantime.

There's no commercial, large scale market for AmigaOS or MorphOS currently and won't be for the forseeable future unless one of Eyetech's or Genesi's set-top box style contracts wins out and the drive for a small footprint, low overhead OS comes to the fore.

Steve
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 306 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 27-Mar-2004 16:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 304 (Joe):
FFS grow up

Cheers
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 307 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 27-Mar-2004 16:35 GMT
BTW, not having read the who interview (merely started actually :), did the dude answer for the missing website? IT company without even a website .. hrmm.. lets just say I wouldn't invest in one :)
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 308 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by JKD on 27-Mar-2004 16:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 284 (Amon_Re):
That's the point....we don;t know and this whole debate is centered around that. The interview says nothing - it confirms somethings there have been rumours about and some people have suspected for a long time.

When he has something to say, something to show....then it's time to listen. That time is not now.

Steve
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 309 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by JKD on 27-Mar-2004 16:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 307 (hooligan/dcs):
Because it's a shell company?

Ben Hermans knows much more but he isn't talking....I suspect there's a good correlation between the 'safety' of AmigaOS and AInc's bankruptcy and this ITec/KMOS deal..

Steve
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 310 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 27-Mar-2004 17:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 307 (hooligan/dcs):
"BTW, not having read the who interview (merely started actually :), did the dude answer for the missing website?"

Read it. (Printing it out may help.)

Why are you posting in a thread that is discussing a document you have not read?

There is a lot of information in that interview, both about Garry Hare himself and about the business operations. You may need to read it through two or three times to take it all in.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 311 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 27-Mar-2004 17:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 309 (JKD):
Maybe the German event, posted will get some angel on how this companies will work to getter and what, that plans are on telecom vision, how to fit AmigaOS4.0 on other devices.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 312 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 27-Mar-2004 17:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 310 (Don Cox):
>Read it. (Printing it out may help.)
>Why are you posting in a thread that is discussing a document you have not read?

I will. On monday at work, and yes, I will print it before.

Why I'm posting? Well, Don, that is a hard question. Geez..I really can't answer.. I wasn't expecting I have to give reasons to post on a public forum.

All I wanted to know was an answer to my question (which I will find out on monday), and you didn't help much there, didn't you?
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 313 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Virgil Leisure on 27-Mar-2004 18:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 305 (JKD):
Let's see.... I would like a computer I could turn on and after taking a sip of my coffee it would be up and running. I could select among several applications such as typing a letter, bringing my budget up to date, checking the latest news, checking my email, bringing my fantasy team up to date, paying my bills, all the while listining to my favorite music in the background. Take another sip of coffee while I scan my latest photos into my album and printing out the email from my brother in LA to show to my wife.

When my grandkids come home from school they can flip on the switch and without a lot of misery they are doing their thing on their own computer. Playing games doing their homework, reading books listening music and who knows. I have six grandkids around seven or eight that would love to have their own computer ( Not a toy ) they could crank up and do their thing. Spawning a new generation of Amiga users.

In my mind there is a need for a computer like the Amiga, but modern and not expensive that works!! Reliable and simple, easy to operate. There has got to be a market for this, one which the Amiga OS would be well suited.

I have built four computers within the last week that cost me $500.00 each to assemble running Windows 2000. I know it will crash and give me problems to maintain. I have one, my wife has one, my daughter has one, my grandson has one, he is seven and goes on the internet by himself. The younger generation are computer literate they need this.

Virgil
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 314 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 27-Mar-2004 18:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 312 (hooligan/dcs):
"All I wanted to know was an answer to my question (which I will find out on Monday), and you didn't help much there, didn't you?"

Sorry, I didn't mean to be too hard on you.

But if you can post here, then you must have a computer at home, even if no printer. So you can be reading it from the screen.

It really is not a good idea to ask somebody else to read a document and tell you what he thinks is in it. Do you want the blue version, or the red version?


I think several people have posted on this thread without actually reading the interview. How can their posts be worth anything at all?
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 315 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 27-Mar-2004 18:51 GMT
ANN users
Wow this is an obvious scam! Burn kill die!!

Moo Bunny
What the hell was that? This guy is confuse and something's not right! I smell scam!

Amiga.org
Huh? What just happened? But XYZ does not add up!

Morphzone
The lies continue on the other side of the fence, oh well

Amigaworld.net
Welcome new master, how may we serve you? You are our supreme god and lord, we bow to you! Anyone who cannot see the truth have no faith and follow the devil Bill Buck!
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 316 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 27-Mar-2004 18:54 GMT
I swear, you bucksuckers are a laugh-a-minute. I mean, the guy ruined one company (Viscorp), wrecked Jason Compton, lied in court, tried his damnedest to wreck Garry Hare and in the face of it all, you lot just stand around spluttering in impotent rage because bbrv didn't "win" AOS4. And in that rage you'll throw mud at anyone. I wouldn't worry about that last fact: your god bbrv has practically insisted that you drones pirate OS4 and "make" it work on the Pegasos boards.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 317 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 27-Mar-2004 18:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 316 (Anonymous):
hahaha get some new material! There is only one cult, the cult of AW.NET
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 318 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 27-Mar-2004 19:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 317 (Anonymous):
I noticed you didn't deny any part of Anon's statement...
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 319 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 27-Mar-2004 19:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 315 (Anonymous):
>Amiga.org
>Huh? What just happened? But XYZ does not add up!

Why don't you try reading the thread on Amiga.org before trying to summarize it.

Wayne Hunt accepts Garry's explaination and even issues an appology for being "used" in the Gensei deception (which really does suggest that those who accused Wayne of faking the card REALLY should appologise to him).

Of course, if you ONLY read KennyR's, Bill Hoggett's and Lando's posts on Amiga.org then you are entitled to your opinion.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 320 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 27-Mar-2004 19:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 314 (Don Cox):
ever heard of wives? the ones that let you peek at forums every now and then, but wont let you have time to read 50 q&a items :)
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 321 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by MIKE on 27-Mar-2004 19:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 255 (Mikey_C):
Like what? Helping keep the propaganda machine going? Rich Woods has lent an invaluable service to the Amiga Community, by shining the light of truth on the folks the site you help manage has been protecting.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 322 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 27-Mar-2004 20:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 320 (hooligan/dcs):
"ever heard of wives? the ones that let you peek at forums every now and then, but wont let you have time to read 50 q&a items :)"

OK, I'll accept that as an excuse.
;-)
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 323 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey_C on 27-Mar-2004 20:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 321 (MIKE):
Yes, Yes, fine, whatever, if you say so, it must be true.

Goodness, Amigaworld.net is apparently the source of all evil. It is our fault that Genesi developers don't get paid and Genesi individuals don't get paid. Yes I admit it, Amigaworld.net is behind all this, you thought SMERSH was bad, you should see our HQ.

We are here to take over the world don't you know.

Yes I admit it, fleecy did ask us to cover up everything. In actual fact all the Money Amiga had went on Paying all the Amigaworld.net staff huge payoffs so that we could deflect attention away from Amiga's problems.

Anyhow, I don't care, I am happy, I have this very expensive AmigaOne G4/XE laptop, (all Amigaworld.net staff members have one too) paid especially with all this money that Amiga had.

Excuse me, have to go, My stock broker is on the phone, have to invest some money in MAI apparently then after that, I have to go and pay another ex-genesi developer some money to come forward and tell his tale.

Mikey C
Speaking typing his personal jet, which was paid for by Amiga inc.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 324 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Nicolas Mendoza on 27-Mar-2004 20:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 323 (Mikey_C):
HAHA, you filthy liar! You know very well that jet was for both you AND DaveyD!

:)
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 325 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 27-Mar-2004 20:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 315 (Anonymous):
That's odd, I didn't find one single comment where anyone was refering to Garry Hare as a "supreme god and lord" nor anything anywhere near it on Amigaworld.net. All I see is that most people got a positive impression from Garry Hare as a *person*, which is pretty far from god-like to me.

No, I'm not defending anything nor anyone. I'm merely pointing out the factual error in this statement, nothing else.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 326 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 27-Mar-2004 20:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 323 (Mikey_C):
ROTFL!
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 327 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by hammer on 27-Mar-2004 21:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 276 (Don Cox):
>Also the low memory requirements would make it easier to port AOS4 to >handheld devices than most other OSes.

The point was not about 'low foot print' comparisons. But, for Windows based foot print size refer to http://www.windowsfordevices.com/articles/AT8836909952.html.

Note that AMD Geode 1200/1201 contains a (licensed) Philips VLIW core and an AMD X86-32 core.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 328 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Tryo on 27-Mar-2004 22:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 313 (Virgil Leisure):
Let's see.... I would like a computer I could turn on and after taking a sip of my coffee it would be up and running. I could select among several applications such as typing a letter, bringing my budget up to date, checking the latest news, checking my email, bringing my fantasy team up to date, paying my bills, all the while listining to my favorite music in the background. Take another sip of coffee while I scan my latest photos into my album and printing out the email from my brother in LA to show to my wife.

When my grandkids come home from school they can flip on the switch and without a lot of misery they are doing their thing on their own computer. Playing games doing their homework, reading books listening music and who knows. I have six grandkids around seven or eight that would love to have their own computer ( Not a toy ) they could crank up and do their thing.
============================================

Hell, you just described a Pegasos running MorphOS! What are you
waiting for?
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 329 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Gregs on 27-Mar-2004 22:23 GMT
Well I have just finished reading through the thread. What an experience.

For what it is worth a few comments.

Sometimes the framework and scope of how things are looked at is much more important than any of the specifics.

Let me begin by defending Amiga Inc, specifically Fleecy and Bill. I am going to defend them in their errors, not defend their errors. Amiga Inc suffered a critical loss of finance, just at the time when they were starting to move forward, the result was they had serverely overstretched their resources and paid the price of hoping things would get better. Will that do as a general paraemter?

What do you expect them to do? They contracted, they attempted to fill the financial gaps by stepping over the line on a number of fairly minor things, they were unable to pay people, but they trudged on. That's my defence. It makes sense, it puts things into perspective and it makes niether evil incarnate.

In short, it the common delima of many businesses which hit a rock just when thnbey were expecting clear water -- in retropsect they could have been wiser and more cautious, but there are no biggies, no great crimes, nothing much at all, just misjudgements, short term remedies when long term ones were required, a misestimation of the financial climate.

But in all this their DE project just went on, slowly but still there, still the same stuff they started talking about. In the meantimes they got the old OS updated, for them a sideline to their main purpose, but they farmed it out and this was better than any other option.

Most of the stuff they have been accused of can be true, except their intentions, their intentions can only be found in the general scope of their actions not in this or that miscaluted action. But what do we find instead, each accusation is merely a vehicle for slandering their intentions, "they are crooks liars, etc etc". I don't need to justify their every action, I am not them, but I can certianly see a consistency of purpose and a simple explaination for their misadventures and it just doesn't mount up to much at all -- sorry folks, it simply does not wash. I have heard of nothing said against Amiga Inc which does not fit with the greater perspective outlined above, unfortunate decisions, overstepping the mark here and there, but no big scam (that would be requiring getting more bucks than anything they have presumable got so far).

Why are some of us so pleased that Garry Hare has come forward, because Amiga Inc was so long over stretched. This has been obvious for sometime, I've said it often enough. I like the DE thing and I like the OS4 thing but they are two different things in development. Amiga Inc did a good job, but not a good enough job, nor could they be expected to given their condition.

Nobody knows a lot about Garry Hare, he is not from within our community, but I am for one pleased with everything I have found so far. The fact was many of us needed someone like this, someone with pull, someone backed, someone who needed OS4 for other plans to come along -- because an OS these days, just for a niche users, is not going to cut the mustard today.

Happy, well I am estatic. Garry Hare is the right man, at the right time, wonder why some on AW.net are falling over themselves because he has arrived -- well it is no secret, we needed someone like him to boost OS4 especially now as it is about to come out. Hyperion has done the hard work, but we all knew a different set of skills was needed to promote it and make it successful. Amiga Inc was overstretched and has been for ages, it was not going to be able to do it even if they abandoned DE altogether, and they are not going to do that.

Then there is the man himself, Garry Hare has a reputation, and a good one, he has background, he has accomplishments, and going by his interview he has an earthy honesty and a self-depricating manner which is also most welcome. He is not going to publically state his grand plan (he may not have one), he is not making any promises and his "vision" seems directed at gaining markets and customers.

Some had seem to think that Garry doesn't know what crossplatform means -- sorry folks read it again, Desktop to settopbox, may have the same CPU but they are different platforms -- that is his crossplatform support in the medium term. In the long term he says nothing, but use your brain a bit, look what he says about Amiga Inc, two and two do sometimes add up to four.

The card, what a laugh. He has given a simple explanation of a complex matter, still people can't let it go. To all those that think it has some importance -- get a life, any life, anything above that of ameobic dystentry, aim for something higher than being a bowel complaint.

Happy I am am with the turn of events, perhaps in the end most of us will be despite current misgivings.

Greg Schofield
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 330 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 27-Mar-2004 23:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 329 (Gregs):
Greg wrote:

" Happy, well I am estatic. Garry Hare is the right man, at the right time, wonder why some on AW.net are falling over themselves because he has arrived -- well it is no secret, we needed someone like him to boost OS4 especially now as it is about to come out. Hyperion has done the hard work, but we all knew a different set of skills was needed to promote it and make it successful. Amiga Inc was overstretched and has been for ages, it was not going to be able to do it even if they abandoned DE altogether, and they are not going to do that. "

right man at the right time to do what?

greg you are sooooooo lost.... you do know the Amiga could have used the right man ten years or better ago...????

do your accounting and ask yourself how many true amiga supporters are no longer alive today... Or are you saying they weren't important enough?

its all really become a bad joke of someone stepping forward and doing anbsolutely nothing but talk and distract people from really getting involved where it does make a difference for everyone.

The Bull Shit has gone on way to long.... there is no talking left... only doing....

So do you have the balls to do AROS? Or are you like apparently some who have no life of their own and need someone to follow?

But so long as all Amiga needs is someone renew to talk.....then that is what Amiga is..... A talk show....
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 331 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 27-Mar-2004 23:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 320 (hooligan/dcs):
> ever heard of wives? the ones that let you peek at forums every now and then, but wont let you have time to read 50 q&a items :)

So maybe a wife would be more fun than say .. waiting for OS4? ;)
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 332 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Gregs on 27-Mar-2004 23:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 330 (3seas):
"right man at the right time to do what?"

We are talking at cross-purposes, you like AROS, fine, but it is not what I am after. The right time, to clinch deals for OS4 and make markets for the A1 range of computers. Obviously I am an OS4 groupy, I don't think that is in doubt. I have my reasons, but they are my reasons not yours. Are you accusing me of being some type of Amigan traitor? Are you serious?

Look good luck with AROS and MorphOS, I have no gripe with either course. I am not slagging off on them, but it seems people can't help themselves slag-off on my choice, even you do it, what is the real problem?

If AROS is the true course, the best choice, in the end it will thrive, I think differently, same goes with MorphOS and OS4, time will tell.

I've bought my DE player, Amiga Club membership, A1 and wait for the pre-release, I don't doubt you have put time and money into your choice, I have on mine -- so where is the problem?

I want the A1 range and OS4 and DE to all have big markets, once they do things will get cheaper, mkore things will be written for them, more cards will have drivers for them, hence I want someone capable of making big deals in the mix -- with Garry Hare I think we have one -- not hard to understand, and with the prerelease not far off, the right time as well.

Greg Schofield
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 333 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 28-Mar-2004 00:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 330 (3seas):
>But so long as all Amiga needs is someone renew to talk.....then that is what
>Amiga is..... A talk show....

Welcome to the world of Amiga, 3seas. :-P

Seriously, when it comes to AmigaOS4, this is what has been the least talk and all development in quite some time now. Public demonstrations, including reports and videos from those demonstrations, has showed us that this is far from just talk, but an actual exisiting and close to be released product. The information available is about nothing but the progress they make rather than talks of new revolutional features or release dates. It's a breath of fresh air from previous years of broken dreams(TM), and in combination with the new owners (KMOS), things are really starting to look alot better than it has for quite some time. Now is not the time to reflect over the past, now is the time to look ahead.

Sure, we've not gone unaffected through all these years of bancrupcies and broken dreams. However, I'd say that it's a pretty safe bet to start out with new and already released hardware, a new close-to-release OS, and a new "customer-oriented", "reveal-information-on-a-need-to-know-basis", and "prepared-to-invest-and-legally-protect" owner of the OS product line, in comparison to what Jay Miner had when he started following his dream about a new kind of personal computer, and what we've had for the last 10 years.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 334 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 28-Mar-2004 00:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 317 (Anonymous):
This is not about any cult, this is about the "amiga"
Have you forgotten what its all about???
Dont u remember the time back then??? It`s time to forget all this BS! If everyone were using its energy into something thats useful, the flatform would be way ahead of where its now!

U dont care at all about the amiga, you just have forgotten! Have you guys contributed with anything useful at all for the community??? Have you actually given constructive ideas about the future of amiga??? Do have any wishes about where YOU want amiga to be in the future???

Shame on all those "closet amigans" and their nonsense suspicions!

You dont want the amiga platform to prosper, you just do all you can to bury it 9 feet underground!
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 335 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 28-Mar-2004 01:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 320 (hooligan/dcs):
"ever heard of wives? the ones that let you peek at forums every now and then, but wont let you have time to read 50 q&a items :)"

Yet you have time to read a 320+ comment thread on Ann? Nice logic you have there.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 336 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 28-Mar-2004 02:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 332 (Gregs):
Greg wrote: "I want the A1 range and OS4 and DE to all have big markets, once they do things will get cheaper, mkore things will be written for them,..."

Greg, its just not going to happen due to simple market changes..... changes in the market.

Amiga has the long term history stigma of always being in troubled waters and given other cheaper and more certain to be around and supported in wide scope ways, OSs like Linux and BSD ... etc..

the only ones interested in seeing Amiga do what you would like are those who want to stay with old hat methodology and business...

Things change and as they do, there becomes more and more red tape surrounding proprietary...

where are you going to find alot less red tape, less cost and more freedom, etc...

its not in proprietary.... and that is what is....
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 337 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Bodie_CI5 on 28-Mar-2004 02:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 336 (3seas):
So then why do we bother with any Amiga related system then?
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 338 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by redfox on 28-Mar-2004 02:18 GMT
@Wayne ... I would like to apologize to you ...

I thought you and some buddies created the business card to support BBRV's claims.

I was wrong.

---------------
redfox
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 339 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 28-Mar-2004 02:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 337 (Bodie_CI5):
I can't answer that for others but for me its only having original Commodore Amiga Hardware and my seeing value in it.... but for a continuing basis its gotta be FOSS .....Why?

Its really quite simple:

All other options have been tried and failed.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 340 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Bodie_CI5 on 28-Mar-2004 04:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 339 (3seas):
What's FOSS?
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 341 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Interesting on 28-Mar-2004 05:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 241 (mongo):
>>>> Does anyone have any information about Itec besides this?<<<<

You can pull my finger nails off, and you still won't get any information out of me!

lol
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 342 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 28-Mar-2004 06:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 341 (Interesting):
Because you don't have any information to give.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 343 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 28-Mar-2004 07:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 333 (samface):
It's a breath of fresh air from previous years of broken dreams(TM), and in combination with the new owners (KMOS), things are really starting to look alot better than it has for quite some time. Now is not the time to reflect over the past, now is the time to look ahead
____________

Samface, you are repeating the same thing from 3 years.
Wait, wait, wait.
Now you are also waiting for a mirrir company withou a www site or IP knowledge or something that can transform Kmos to a real company (enstead of a simple "support" company needed by someone to not loose "The strong and unattacable agree we create with AmigaInc when we started to develope Aos4"
I can only say tou to not comment with useless and idiot words about "a better future now" when Kmos is nothing.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 344 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 28-Mar-2004 08:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 335 (Anonymous):
The thread has cumulated. It started from zero comments and more comments were added during days. I did follow it as it went along every now and then. Wow..hows that for logic!
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 345 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 28-Mar-2004 08:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 323 (Mikey_C):
LOL
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 346 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by smp266 on 28-Mar-2004 09:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 332 (Gregs):
I agree with that. No more bullying. Let dollars/end-users have the final say.

I think at one time I came here for news and unbiased opinions. I still have that vision of the Amiga scene in '96 when people were optimistic and ready to weather any storms. It is probably the only thing that keeps me going.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 347 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by Gabriele Favrin on 28-Mar-2004 11:10 GMT
Thanks for the long and funny thread, it's full of interesting notices
;-)

I want to add an useful contribute:
here there is a very funny (and realistic, sadly) italian
translation of some parts of the Hare's interview. If you
understand italian read it, it's funny ;-)

http://www.newsland.it/nr/article/it.comp.os.amiga/10523.html
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 348 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 28-Mar-2004 11:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 343 (Eva):
Huh? I didn't even mention waiting...

Anyway, you're right. When it comes to AmigaOS4, we're still waiting. However, we're not waiting for KMOS to do anything, we're waiting for Hyperion to complete what they've started and then simply release the product. Even though we still don't know any specific release date, it's easy to tell by all those public demonstrations that the final release is imminent. My point was that instead of hearing promises of new revolutional plans for the future, we get to see the actual progress beeing made.

The only thing I expect from KMOS at the moment is that they continue to protect the AmigaOS IP, and they seem to be doing a good job, IMO.
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 349 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by vortexau on 28-Mar-2004 14:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 303 (Bill Hoggett):
> Except for personal attacks, do you and your ilk do anything else when you troll Amiga boards?
Hmm! Quite strange. I would describe MY post (to which you answer) as more of a personal observation though prefaced with a question. BTW, who is MY ilk?
> In the absence of factual evidence - factual evidence which both red and blue sides often go out of their way to
> bury as deep as possible - hypotheses are all we have. It is human nature to seek reasons behind the unexplained.
? ? ? So, just cause YOU are lacking "factual evidence", YOU'RE "go(ing) of (YOUR) way to" propose "hypotheses" because "hypotheses are all (YOU) have"????
BTW - Have YOU tried a weegie-board, or sheep entrails, to seek "the unexplained"?
> then others will look for the truth where they can find it.
Or . . . "where they can" imagine it? :)
> It's quite amazing to see how many people - all of them of the same political persuasion - get so thoroughly
> irate when others refuse to take the words of one man on blind faith as being gospel.
I don't know . . . but its looking like Garry Hare is using more in the way of business ethics than just your favorite "hypotheses"??
> Worship him if you want, but this is not AW, so the rest of us can make our own minds up irrepective of
> whether you approve or not.
Worship him? Can YOU point to any statement of mine on which you can base that odd worship reference?
Hmm! So YOU are actively encouraging that "rest of" some (what? BBRV-worshippers) to "make our own minds up" on some ""hypotheses"" and that voodoo-type activity is "irrepective of whether" (I) "approve or not"??

Well! If YOU really prefer to live your life according to some beliefs in imaginery "hypotheses" instead of observed facts -- please feel free to do so!
While I tend to prefer facts myself, I wouldn't really stand in your way in pursuing your favourite "hypotheses" -- I was just really asking you to consider if imaginary situations are a valid basis on which to base your mindset? ? ?
Garry Hare Interview Now ONLINE : Comment 350 of 364ANN.lu
Posted by vortexau on 28-Mar-2004 14:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 339 (3seas):
> . . . All other options have been tried and failed.
You could have added "up to the present" at the end there, but maybe you are a really bitter person who's faith evaporated l-o-n-g ago?

Those of us more advanced in personal years can allow for others making missteps, and excursions down the wrong roads.
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