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Posted on 07-Apr-2004 07:40 GMT by Lewis Mistreated36 comments
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After a lot of hot air and angry words, take a rest and be sure not to miss these two!
- BurnIT 3.0, with dvd burning support, is near completion!
- AmiDog finally released sources for TrueReality and SOPE, his N64+PSX emulators!
Two software juicy news : Comment 1 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 07-Apr-2004 06:51 GMT
Decent Playstation and N64 emulators would be awesome, be it AOS,OS4 or MOS. Preferably all three. :)

Hopefully now with the G3 and G4 processors and newer videocards than Permedia2 we have the required power.
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Posted by Anonymous on 07-Apr-2004 07:50 GMT
Please change the posting to say that BurnIT is for MOS only!

Thanks.
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Posted by justnotbill on 07-Apr-2004 09:54 GMT
>AmiDog finally released sources for TrueReality and SOPE, his N64+PSX emulators!

Is this good or bad news?
Will AmiDog continue the development?
Two software juicy news : Comment 4 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 07-Apr-2004 10:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (justnotbill):
Sadly no :(
Thankfully he released the source code.
Thx Amidog!
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Posted by Anonymous on 07-Apr-2004 10:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
why? what a small little market! why not have an AmigaOS classic 3.x
version? that not only is a bigger market..but should also run on MorphOS
and AmigaOS 4.x
Two software juicy news : Comment 6 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 07-Apr-2004 11:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):
Maybe when OS4 is actually out, authors will port their software. Not
much use complaining they don't release it before then.
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Posted by Anonymous on 07-Apr-2004 12:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Johan Rönnblom):
Yeah true, how do you support a nonexistant OS?

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AmigaOne!!
Converting Amigans to Linux since 2001!!
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Posted by bluvi on 07-Apr-2004 14:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
funny, but true
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Posted by Kjetil on 07-Apr-2004 17:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (bluvi):
Not true if you allready where using Linux.
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Posted by Kjetil on 07-Apr-2004 17:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):
should not be problem compiling it for 68k and PPC,
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Posted by Kjetil on 07-Apr-2004 17:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
Now you are trying to provoke the AmigaOS4.0 fans, we all this type of action tolling inn my camp, and it's not funny we have waited a long time for PPC based AmigaOS and computer.
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 07-Apr-2004 17:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Kjetil):
Oh for fekks sake.. it was a joke. And pretty decent one too, may I add!
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Posted by yoodoo on 07-Apr-2004 17:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (hooligan/dcs):
Before getting my A1 (nov 2002!), I'd dabbled n Linux, but pretty much stuck to Windows. Since getting the A1, I've ditched MS altogether, learned how to write in C++ and started to convert school systems away from MS. So, being without AOS4 has had some advantages ;)
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 07-Apr-2004 17:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (yoodoo):
Sure, but you must see the irony in this Atheist-kind of signature too, right? :)
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Posted by Jaeson Koszarsky on 07-Apr-2004 17:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
An AmigaOS version of Burnit 3 would be nice.
If there were a 68k version, I could use it
with my DraCo.

Jaeson K.
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 07-Apr-2004 17:55 GMT
BurnIt comes just in time aswell.. DVD-burners have pretty decent prices these days, some even under 100 euros.
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Posted by Anonymous on 07-Apr-2004 18:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Kjetil):
> Now you are trying to provoke the AmigaOS4.0 fans, we all this type of action
> tolling inn my camp, and it's not funny we have waited a long time for PPC based
> AmigaOS and computer.

Provoke? Only if you are easily provoked. Is it really trolling when it's fact? i don't think so. The AmigaOne was released in 2001, and since then how many Amigans have switched to Linux? Amigaworld.net should be renamed LinuxPPC.net.


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AmigaOne!!
Converting Amigans to Linux since 2001!!
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Posted by corpse on 07-Apr-2004 20:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Anonymous):
"AmigaOne!!
Converting Amigans to Linux since 2001!!"

heh,
tho I was running Linux on my A1200/PPC since APUS was usable...

and there's nothing wrong with learning a bit of unix on the side, quite nice to have on the CV :)
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Posted by James Carroll on 07-Apr-2004 23:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Kjetil):
Hey I'm an A1 user and I thought it was funny. :) Dont worry about it man. :)
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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Apr-2004 05:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (corpse):
Eyetech/Hyperion are so kind with A1 user, they will wait a little bit
more before releasing the OS4, this way A1 users could have an hight
skill in UNIX :-))

Let's hope they (Eyetech/Hypercon) will success to make it (the
AOne) working !!! :-)

Bye
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Posted by ikir on 08-Apr-2004 07:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Eva):
No??!! :-O
I hope that someone will continue the development of these emulators :-/
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Posted by Steffen Haeuser on 08-Apr-2004 09:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
>Yeah true, how do you support a nonexistant OS?

About what OS are you talking ? Obviously not AmigaOS 4, as this one exists.
That it is not yet released to the public, and that the final version is still
in development does not change this fact.

Supporting AmigaOS is possible by cross-compilers (for people who are not Betatesters or OS 4 Developers) BTW. Currently still only a limited number of
people have access to such, but once the prerelease is out everybody will be able to cross-compile for OS 4 :)

Steffen
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Posted by itix on 08-Apr-2004 09:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Steffen Haeuser):
"About what OS are you talking ? Obviously not AmigaOS 4, as this one exists." I think that was not the point. People are not going to buy software for OS they don't have. Hyperion must establish first market and then commercial software can come.
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Posted by Don Cox on 08-Apr-2004 10:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Steffen Haeuser):
"Supporting AmigaOS is possible by cross-compilers (for people who are not Betatesters or OS 4 Developers) BTW."

That wouldn't be very practical for DVD burning software - you really would need to test on the actual hardware.
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Posted by StAn on 08-Apr-2004 12:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Don Cox):
Any kind of software needs to be tested on the target system... There are always problems (unless we're talking about "hello world").
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Posted by StAn on 08-Apr-2004 12:53 GMT
I wonder if Amidog has had a GPLed version of MiniGL for use in the GPL sources of True Reality and SOPE.
Any inclusion of source code in a GPL project makes it GPL, right? I might be wrong...
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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Apr-2004 13:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Steffen Haeuser):
> but once the prerelease is out everybody will be able to cross-compile for OS 4 :)

On what hardware (Linux PC oder 68k?)
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Posted by Crumb // AAT on 08-Apr-2004 14:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (StAn):
I don't think so... when you compile anything you usually link against an amiga.lib link library and suddenly that library isn't "infected" by the license of your program.
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Posted by Crumb // AAT on 08-Apr-2004 14:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Anonymous):
both. And windows too if you want.
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Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 08-Apr-2004 21:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Crumb // AAT):
> I don't think so... when you compile anything you usually link against an
> amiga.lib link library and suddenly that library isn't "infected" by the
> license of your program.

If you link your program against a GPL'd library, and release it to the public, then your program must be licensed under the GPL terms. If you don't like this, don't use the GPL'd library.
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Posted by Anonymous Orc on 09-Apr-2004 07:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Johan Rönnblom):
did you read the guy? he's asking for classic OS3.x support! in theory such a version would run on ALL the 'AmigaOS API supporting' platforms..though natively compiled versions would be an incentive for extra payment perhaps
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Posted by Rob on 09-Apr-2004 13:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
How many people had an A1 in 2001. I didn't think you were able to
order an A1 until Feb/Mar 2002.

How can non existant hardware convert users to Linux.



I'd also imagine that many of the people who currently own an A1 use
Linux but are not what you might call "Linux converts". As soon as
OS4 is here a lot of Linux installations will probably be ditched.
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Posted by Don Cox on 09-Apr-2004 14:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Rob):
"I'd also imagine that many of the people who currently own an A1 use
Linux but are not what you might call "Linux converts". As soon as
OS4 is here a lot of Linux installations will probably be ditched."

You don't have to imagine - just look at some threads on amigaworld.net.

Almost everyone with an A1 detests Linux.
Two software juicy news : Comment 34 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by StAn on 09-Apr-2004 18:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Crumb // AAT):
amiga.lib is a compiler file, and as such doesn't have to be GPL, if I understood correctly that part of the GPL.

MiniGL, on the opposite, is neither a compiler file, nor a part of the OS, so using it in a GPL project requires it to be GPL too. Which it isn't, AFAIK.

Not that I care though. I probably just wanted to be evil, but this time no one seems to care about GPL :-).
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Posted by Steffen Haeuser on 09-Apr-2004 22:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (StAn):
Hi!

>MiniGL, on the opposite, is neither a compiler file, nor a part of the OS, so >using it in a GPL project requires it to be GPL too. Which it isn't, AFAIK.

It is. At least for AmigaOS 3.x. It was included with StormC which was the
"official" compiler for AmigaOS 3.x (there were some texts on amiga-news.de
and other sites a long time ago about this "official compiler" thing).

Besides this: a library can obviously not be GPL'ed by someone who is not
the author of said library.

Steffen
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Posted by Anonymous on 15-Apr-2004 17:13 GMT
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