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[News] AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes goldANN.lu
Posted on 16-Apr-2004 20:09 GMT by Mikey C283 comments
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Leuven, Belgium - April 16, 2004. Hyperion Entertainment and the Amiga OS 4.0 development team are extremely pleased and relieved to announce that after nearly 30 months of painstaking development the Amiga OS 4.0 Developer Pre-release has gone gold and will be sent to the duplication plant on Monday, April 19, 2004.

Full details on Amigaworld.net

AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 1 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Agima on 16-Apr-2004 18:12 GMT
Kick Ass!
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 2 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Jon on 16-Apr-2004 18:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Agima):
It's done :)
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 3 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Richi on 16-Apr-2004 18:19 GMT
Os4 rocks!
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 4 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 16-Apr-2004 18:29 GMT
Took what it took.. but finally =)

Hope to see the latest beta in action at some party/show soon.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 5 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by T1k on 16-Apr-2004 18:39 GMT
I'm sceptical....
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 6 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 16-Apr-2004 18:39 GMT
Oh, now I'm just waiting for another news item when it's actually been
sent to the duplication plant (rather than "will be"), and of course
one news item when the duplication plant has made some copies. Then
I guess we'll see a news item when it's been mailed out to developers,
and one when someone actually received it.

Sorry, but I'm a bit bored with these "OS4 ready, except not"
newsitems. If it's actually true this time then VERY good.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 7 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey_C on 16-Apr-2004 18:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Johan Rönnblom):
Hmmm

Party Pooper. ;-)

Anyhow, you have your Morphos, now finally, we can have our AmigaOS4 - Hoorah!

Mikey C
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 8 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 16-Apr-2004 18:47 GMT
Congratulations to all concerned.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 9 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by derf on 16-Apr-2004 19:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Johan Rönnblom):
i dont think you really need to be pointed to the thousands of 'gone gold' announcements each year for software to show that this is a good milestone to post news about.

i can see complaining about those other things you say, which havnt happened yet, is a reason but its not an excuse.

:-)
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 10 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 16-Apr-2004 19:17 GMT
The pre-release is being sent to the duplicators?!?

Am I the only one who thinks this is an abuse of the English language?
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 11 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 16-Apr-2004 19:25 GMT
Surely good news for OS4 fans. Any details what is missing from pre-release, if anything?
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 12 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by main on 16-Apr-2004 19:30 GMT
Yes! Happy, happy joy!
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 13 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Sam Smith on 16-Apr-2004 19:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (T1k):
I'm not.

This is massive for the Amiga and computing in general.

---
Sam
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 14 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by DG on 16-Apr-2004 19:48 GMT
Look Here:

http://www.hyperion-entertainment.com/_amiga/index.html
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 15 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 16-Apr-2004 19:59 GMT
Very good! I really want to play with this beta, until we have the final version (the beta miss some features, but it is good to play)
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 16 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 16-Apr-2004 20:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Sam Smith):
This is massive for the Amiga

Well, yes, probably true. Certainly it is the last throw of the dice.

and computing in general.

Then you had to spoil it by saying something laughably silly.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 17 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 16-Apr-2004 20:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Bill Hoggett):
Nah.. Let them be happy, after all this waiting, they have deserved it..
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 18 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 16-Apr-2004 20:29 GMT
Good work, I have waited a long time for this, now I hope the shipping and packaging goes fast, grate work all that worked as beta testers, development and every one else backing the project economicly. we salute you all.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 19 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 16-Apr-2004 20:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (derf):
derf wrote:
> i dont think you reall need to be pointed to the thousands of'gone
> gold' announcements each year for software

It's just that it hasn't gone gold. It's just "expected" to do that
"in a couple of days". And since I've heard this so many times before,
I'm saving all my congratulations until people actually get it. And
before people start attacking me for being anti-OS4 or anything, I
said exactly the same about the "Peg2 is ready except not quite"-news
last year. The good thing about that was that at least it wasn't
dragged out more than a couple of months.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 20 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 16-Apr-2004 20:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Johan Rönnblom):
Posted by Johan Rönnblom (193.11.251.131) on 16-Apr-2004 20:39:38

Oh, now I'm just waiting for another news item when it's actually been
sent to the duplication plant (rather than "will be"), and of course
one news item when the duplication plant has made some copies. Then
I guess we'll see a news item when it's been mailed out to developers,
and one when someone actually received it.

Sorry, but I'm a bit bored with these "OS4 ready, except not"
newsitems. If it's actually true this time then VERY good.
------------------
On amigawhirled there is a notice that the licensor is KMOS - so it appears any monies will go to KMOS bypassing all the court judgements for Amiga.

So everyone with judgements against Amiga gets screwed - and billyboy gets some monies?

I'll buy OS4.0 (bought it already in the SDK scam) so really now it is double or nothing.

Sheesh it'll cost me more the MS XP!
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 21 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by derf on 16-Apr-2004 20:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Johan Rönnblom):
the master disc has been produced and is on its way to be copied. if that isnt 'gone gold' i dont know what is :-D
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 22 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by U. B. Kuhl on 16-Apr-2004 21:00 GMT
...everyone knows Ben Hermans is a holographic of Fleecy, the Friedens are sock
puppets on a kids T.V. show...Hauser is the janitor, and Olaf Bartel is the
code name for home-brew whiskey...none really exist except in the minds of
the blind faithful fans of vapourware...its a hokes and we all know it...

..."SNAP"

OH...I must have dozed off. What a horrid nightmare I
was having! I dreampt I had been turned into a blue troll, and was being
forced to post insane rantings at ANN by a retired army officer whose mind
was controlled by Natasha from the Adams Family T.V. show. Uncle Fester was
in full camo, cheering them on! Where is my coffee...this thread has
4FOUR4 digit potential. Honey, get a case of jiffy-pop while you're out
I'll be right here when you get back...
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 23 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 16-Apr-2004 21:17 GMT
The VIC has gone triple platinum laced with titainum and lined with silver... and everyone can have it for free....

Silly people...

"going gold" is just a sales hype..
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 24 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by smithy on 16-Apr-2004 21:27 GMT
A "developer pre-release"? As far as an end user is concerned, that sounds like a pre-pre-release. But anyway, isn't this where MorphOS was in 2002?
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 25 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 16-Apr-2004 21:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (U. B. Kuhl):
Hmm.. that wasn't funny. Please, get your coat.


(greets to The Fastshow fans)
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 26 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by spot on 16-Apr-2004 21:34 GMT
how unsuspected... :)

a happy moment for most amiga minded people is turned into a sad moment at ann..

cooome on! it cant be THAT bad! :) Weeee!
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 27 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by JKD on 16-Apr-2004 21:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (smithy):
That isn't the point.....the point is some hard working guys reach a decent milestone and should be congratulated.

As a side effect, MorphOS can check it's rear view mirror and see competition hoving into view :-)

Steve
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 28 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 16-Apr-2004 22:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (JKD):
Gone gold? They have sold 500,000 shrinkwrap licenses?
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 29 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 16-Apr-2004 23:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Nate Downes):
Nah, CDs will be produced in Swasiland, so 500 pieces will be enough for "gold" .....
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 30 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Ronald St-Maurice on 16-Apr-2004 23:24 GMT
Have fun, Amigans! :D
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 31 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Interesting on 16-Apr-2004 23:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Nate Downes):
>>>>>Gone gold? They have sold 500,000 shrinkwrap licenses?<<<<<<

Yea, Nate my costomers are using 250,000 of them!
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 32 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 16-Apr-2004 23:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Kronos):
The meaning of "going Gold" has been changing recently thanks to the marketing hype types. Think about "developer pre-release going Gold" for a minute and you'll realise it's nothing but marketing double-speak.

I fear that no matter how good it might eventually turn out to be, AmigaOS 4 will become known as the "Mumbo-Jumbo" release.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 33 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Graham_nli on 16-Apr-2004 23:46 GMT
Gone Gold means that a master CD image has been made. They used to be made on gold CDs once, hence the term.

There is nothing "marketing" about it. It isn't a fricking music album.

Glad to see that AmigaOS4 has reached a major milestone.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 34 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Rich Woods on 17-Apr-2004 00:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (3seas):
sales hype - sure - but let em have their fun - if it actually does get produced and sent out then congrats to them.

aey. I smell another court case coming up. and KMOS get's all the money.

Posting this from my laptop running Amiga Forever. What a great way to spend $60

I'm almost excited as a red troll waiting on OS 4.0!
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 35 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Rich on 17-Apr-2004 00:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (JKD):
Competition coming into view?

I think an upcoming announcement from Genesi will suprise a lot of people.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 36 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 17-Apr-2004 00:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Graham_nli):
No it does not. "Gone Gold" has ment one thing *and one thing only* when it comes to any kind of copyrighted material for the better part of the last century:

It has sold at least 500,000 copies.

It was big news when software went gold before release. It ment that pre-orders had surpassed 500,000 units. A rare and mighty accomplishment.

So, Hyperion, have you sold 500,000 copies? If not, then stop with the false advertising.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 37 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by oxygenet32 on 17-Apr-2004 00:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Nate Downes):
No offence, but going gold in the SOFTWARE world means getting ready with the master CD, always has meant that so you are WRONG - so STOP accusing hyperion of false advertising, as what they have said is totally 100% VALID.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 38 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by mjohnson on 17-Apr-2004 00:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Graham_nli):
From http://www.geek.com/glossary/glossary_search.cgi?g

Gold Master - The final beta version of a program that is ready to be released to the public. The entire goal of the beta process is to arrive at the gold master candidate. Once it is tested successfully, it becomes the gold master and is shipped out to be duplicated (if it's a CD or floppy) and/or uploaded to the Web. The process of creating the gold master is often referred to as "going gold," or you could say that certain software "went gold" when the golden master was released.



From http://linux.omnipotent.net/article.php?article_id=11205

2.4 Goes Gold?

The title of the very first article I saw stated that 2.4 was "going gold." This is a perfect example of incorrect thinking. Going gold usually refers to the fact that a software company has burned a "master CD" for a final product: a "gold CD."



From http://www.jump.net/~fdietz/softgloss.htm#G

Going Gold
A game goes gold, when it is ready for duplication, but has not yet reached the market.



From http://www.macobserver.com/article/2001/03/07.7.shtml

OS X Goes Gold Master, Ready To Ship March 24th.

Apple has announced that Mac OS X, their forthcoming, next-generation operating system, has gone Golden Master and will be ready to ship on March 24th.




I doubt that this is any deliberate attempt to initiate a marketing hype, but perhaps the headline should have been "AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold master" to avoid the confusion.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 39 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by mjohnson on 17-Apr-2004 00:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (mjohnson):
Of course, the above definitions of "going gold" would only hold true in the world of geeks and morons, in the really real world, beyond our desktops, other, more common meanings are known to exist.

This, the so called really real world, I would have no personal experience from myself though, being a geek and a moron, so it should be regarded as hearsay until further authentication can be obtained. ;-)
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 40 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 17-Apr-2004 00:50 GMT
There are two meanings to the phrase "going gold". One is from the music industry which means "selling over 500,000 copies", the other is from the computer software industry which means "final master that goes into production/duplication".
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 41 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by JKD on 17-Apr-2004 01:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Rich):
>Competition coming into view?

In the rear view mirror....sure ;-)

>I think an upcoming announcement from Genesi will suprise a lot of people.

explain..or at least hint more strongly. pmail if you will :D

Steve
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 42 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by redfox on 17-Apr-2004 01:37 GMT
Well done to all the people involved. Another milestone has been passed.

Thanks,

redfox
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 43 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Some Farker on 17-Apr-2004 01:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Nate Downes):
What a fuckhead you are, Downes. Whasammater, this put a damper on payday...? Oops, forgot, Buck doesn't pay his bills, so I guess you didn't get paid at all! At any rate, you pillock, you should be painfully aware by now that amongst computer literati, "gone gold" has referred to "master disk ready for duplication" for years now.

No?

Don't believe me?

Why don't you look at www.gonegold.com and ask the webmaster(s) when they registered their domain name.

Seriously, you bucksuckers couldn't arrange a piss up in a brewery, as the brits say.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 44 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Some Farker on 17-Apr-2004 01:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Rich):
Competition coming into view?

I think an upcoming announcement from Genesi will suprise a lot of people.


What annoucement? Another tantrum suit from your boss? He still sore that he didn't get to kill Amiga once and for all...? Oh, wait. I forgot. He doesn't care about the Amiga market, he's international baby, and has flown this chicken coop oh except for the part where he hasn't and built a "court case" on a joke email and misappropriated business card both of which he lied to the court about.

Buck should be sitting in a prison someplace.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 45 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 17-Apr-2004 02:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Some Farker):
>Buck should be sitting in a prison someplace.
isin't the amiga kkkomunity just wonderful?
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 46 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Some Farker on 17-Apr-2004 02:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (cheesegrate):
Keyboard problems, buckspy? Or are you posting drunk after a night of binge drinking to drown your sorrows?

Look, any of you blue butterfly brains could've said "Well, we're tired of waiting, we're off to our happy little morphos cloud" and been done with it, and yet you had to stick around screaming "OH NOS IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN LEAVE WHILE YOU CAN AMIGA SUXXORS MORPHOS RULZ" and when that didn't work, your overman thought he could steal Hyperion's work, and now that that's failed you...you...I don't know. Just what exactly have you done? Insinuated that I'm in the KKK? Is...Bill Buck an african-american? Has someone gone after him in a sheet, with a burning cross? What, exactly? I mean if you're going to try to insult me at least get your idioms and insinuations in the same fucking ballpark as the rest of us. I mean, call me a "red troll" or tell me how fucked up you think Bill McEwen is or something.

This bizarre dragging in of some sort of feint regarding the KKK is just too weird to even make it down the barrel, much less across the battlefield. So that's -1 for you, I'm afraid.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 47 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 17-Apr-2004 02:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Some Farker):
Whatever they will announce, it will be MorphOS / Pegasos II or Genesi related. This has nothing to do with AmigaOS 4

They will probably announce MorphOS 1.5 or a better partnership with Motorola or G5 based Pegasos III...

Whatever they announce, there is no 0% chance for success when Bill Buck is is at the driving seat...
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 48 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Some Farker on 17-Apr-2004 02:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Anonymous):

Whatever they will announce, it will be MorphOS / Pegasos II or Genesi related. This has nothing to do with AmigaOS 4

They will probably announce MorphOS 1.5 or a better partnership with Motorola or G5 based Pegasos III...


Well, for the true enthusiasts of the Morph/Peg platform, that sounds pretty darned cool indeed. Now if the bluetrolls would just fall off the face of the earth...
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 49 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by oGALAXYo on 17-Apr-2004 02:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Anonymous):
> Whatever they announce, there is no 0% chance for success when Bill Buck is is at the driving seat...

Yeah but Bill Buck has the balls to at least DIVE into this niche Market and at least trying something regardless of being successful or not. You can't say this from other companies. Not everything you plan or do today will result in fruits tomorrow bcause you can NOT calculate the factor tomorrow.

What you can do is to learn from your mistakes and try again and again and again util you become successfully.

I do recommend that you read this Book with the Title Das Prinzip Gewinnen written by Arthur L. Williams. I don't know whether there is an english version of it but I do assume there is since that guy comes from USA.

It describes the life of a poor college coach who wanted to do something new, to make something out of himself. Who then dived into the world of business by selling insurances from door to door and people (for almost two years) where shutting the door infront of him. But he always stand up again and continued because he believed in what he does. Regardless of how many times he failed. And today he owns one of the biggest Insurance companies within USA.

I don't know how true the story is and if he still owns that Insurance company.

greetings,

oGALAXYo
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 50 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by ehaines on 17-Apr-2004 02:54 GMT
Well, this is great news, at last!

...Typically, a few idiots insist on being idiots. Listen, idiots, "going gold" has been a common term for years for software CDs being mastered, and no (sane, clue-enabled) person thinks it means 500,000 copies of anything. Check out:

www.macgamer.com/features/

*Several* stories about games going gold there, and for sure Mac games don't really sell 500,000 copies. ;)

So, how about an apology?
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