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[News] AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes goldANN.lu
Posted on 16-Apr-2004 20:09 GMT by Mikey C283 comments
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Leuven, Belgium - April 16, 2004. Hyperion Entertainment and the Amiga OS 4.0 development team are extremely pleased and relieved to announce that after nearly 30 months of painstaking development the Amiga OS 4.0 Developer Pre-release has gone gold and will be sent to the duplication plant on Monday, April 19, 2004.

Full details on Amigaworld.net

AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 251 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Jon on 18-Apr-2004 16:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 250 (Interesting):
Enemies are easier to make, but friends are more valuable.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 252 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 18-Apr-2004 16:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 247 (Don Cox):
Ben does tell the truth when it suits him, and he has no qualms about lying when that serves his purpose better. At other times he tells part of the truth, presented in such a way as to deflect attention from the part he wants to hide.

I class him in the same category as Hare, McEwen, Buck, Haage etc., but he's not someone whose opinion I would ask when searching for the truth.

As for who is classed as a "liar" or not, surely anyone who tells a lie and then sticks by it is a liar. If you deliberately say something which you know to be untrue you are by definition a liar, no matter how often you are prone to doing it.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 253 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 18-Apr-2004 18:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 252 (Bill Hoggett):
"As for who is classed as a "liar" or not, surely anyone who tells a lie and then sticks by it is a liar. If you deliberately say something which you know to be untrue you are by definition a liar, no matter how often you are prone to doing it."

But in that case everyone is a liar, or at least 99% of people, so the word becomes useless. I would take it to mean "Somebody you would expect to tell a lie" as opposed to "Somebody you would expect to tell the truth".

Of course nobody ever agrees about words.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 254 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Lawskool on 18-Apr-2004 21:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 229 (Jon):
Berie is a man, not a sacred cow. If he couldn't stand the heat, he
wouldn't keep coming back to the kitchen. By the way, Bernie, go ahead
and sell Umilator, and let Intel/AMD provide the speed increases, and
kernel-hackers deal with 2.6. and beyond. I assume it would be speedy
on 3 and 4 gigithurts mobos?
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 255 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 19-Apr-2004 11:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 251 (Jon):
"friends are more valuable"
...same for Friedens ... especially true under this topic. ;-)

Great work guys! Keep it up.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 256 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Bifford on 19-Apr-2004 12:38 GMT
Hi all.

Good news for the A1 users out there! :)

One thing I would say to Amiga/Hyperion though - check those disks thoroughly before you send them out to users!

I still remember the Nightlong/Clickboom fiasco where the CD printers faffed things up and most people got non working (or hard to make work and had to use a 4x cdrom to get it to work) cds sent out.

So it might add time but I would go through and check every 20th or so CD! (depending on amount made).

Anyway. I look forward to the next SEAL meeting where Mick Sutton will have this installed :) Might have to take my Peg along so we can play Quake2 across a network! ;-)))

TTFN
Bifford the Youngest.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 257 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 19-Apr-2004 13:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 250 (Interesting):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Taking this to the next step if I were Gary Hare, I would fully defend my investmet in Amiga IP. That being said issues, of H&P, Aros, Mos etc. would all be on my legal map.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

And what AmigaIP does AROS use then? which IP used by AROS would allow it to appear on "your" clearly well informed Legal Map?


you are Truely Without Any understanding of The issues involved.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 258 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2004 21:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Bill Hoggett):
>Am I the only one who thinks this is an abuse of the English language?

I'm sure that's the most important thing to discuss here, Bill. Good boy.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 259 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Ray A. Akey on 19-Apr-2004 21:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 252 (Bill Hoggett):
"I class him in the same category as Hare, McEwen, Buck, Haage etc."

And what, pray tell, category is that?
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 260 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 19-Apr-2004 21:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 259 (Ray A. Akey):
> And what, pray tell, category is that?

Didn't he already state that?
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 261 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2004 23:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (3seas):
And the VIC has never seen the light of day and never been anywhere other than your mind, Timmy boy, and you've been talking about this miracle since... gosh, must have been 1996 at least, wonder what Aram would say... ;-)
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 262 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2004 23:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Nate Downes):
>Gone gold? They have sold 500,000 shrinkwrap licenses?

If your head wasn't buried deep inside where you know you would know that "gone gold" doesn't mean having sold # of copies. Wrong CD buddy, this is not Ricky Martin.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 263 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2004 23:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Rich):
>I think an upcoming announcement from Genesi will suprise a lot of people.

And what is that? That Buck has finally paid your paycheck? Or that he has bought Microsoft? Can't wait to see that.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 264 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Tronman on 20-Apr-2004 00:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 263 (Anonymous):
Oooh, tough words. But, untill Amiga, Inc pays MY paycheck, as far as I'm concerned, you can just shut your cake hole. K?
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 265 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by JKD on 20-Apr-2004 01:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 257 (Matt Parsons):
>you are Truely Without Any understanding of The issues involved.

lol at the capitilazation there :D
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 266 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Apr-2004 03:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 100 (Fabio Alemagna):
>as 99% of the commercial entities using GPL'd code do?

If 99% of people jumps off a cliff you follow?
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 267 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Apr-2004 04:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 124 (Fabio Alemagna):
And how's that any of your concern? You must have been elected GPL world police.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 268 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Apr-2004 04:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 155 (XraalE):
>The GNU foundation have already sued companies that abused their guidelines.

Why do you worry so much? Alemagna's intent is to scare people and throw mud while showing his know-it-all attitude, he likes to think he's important. Hyperion has worked before with these type of licenses and they know what to do.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 269 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Apr-2004 04:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 164 (Joe):
Here'a another idiot at work. Thanks Alemagna for bringing the worst out of trolls.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 270 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Apr-2004 04:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 182 (Hans-Joerg Frieden):
Hans-Joerg, why do you even waste time with these idiots? They don't want the OS or the sources, they just want to troll.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 271 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Apr-2004 04:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 264 (Tronman):
And why is that? And pay your for what? Sitting on your ass staring at flies?
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 272 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Apr-2004 07:08 GMT
I still can't understand you guys. This is great news for the Amiga, but look at this thread... You made it again... Don't you know how to stop this shit.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 273 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Apr-2004 07:09 GMT
I still can't understand you guys. This is great news for the Amiga, but look at this thread... You made it again... Don't you know how to stop this shit.

I'm sure most of the guys are nice and friendly, but some of you are really just idiots. Sorry, but that's how it is.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 274 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 20-Apr-2004 07:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 266 (Anonymous):
> If 99% of people jumps off a cliff you follow?

People doing that would be mad, are you suggesting people doing what I said they do with the GPL are mad?
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 275 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 20-Apr-2004 07:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 267 (Anonymous):
> And how's that any of your concern?

Simply because I am one of the people I talk about, just like about anyone else.

> You must have been elected GPL world police.

Me? Then you've really NOT seen who you define "GPL world police".
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 276 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 20-Apr-2004 07:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 269 (Anonymous):
You clearly are obsessed with me. Thought about asking for help yet? (NO, don't ask me!)
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 277 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 20-Apr-2004 09:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 271 (Anonymous):
Because he's Bolton Peck, an ex-Amiga employee that is owned more than 50000$...
He won a court case about that, yet the money are nowhere to be seen.
Amiga now has money to continue the case with Genesi and yet they haven't paid
people they owe money to.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 278 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by schmoot on 20-Apr-2004 16:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 117 (Andy Hall):
You're understandably confused. "Rich" and "Rich Woods" are two different posters.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 279 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-Apr-2004 18:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 277 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>Amiga now has money to continue the case with Genesi and yet they haven't paid
people they owe money to.

And the same applies to Genesi one could add...
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 280 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-Apr-2004 01:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 276 (Fabio Alemagna):
Personally I think you're an idiot, but I can see how your inflated ego turns that into an obsession.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 281 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-Apr-2004 01:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 278 (schmoot):
Sure they are.
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 282 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-Apr-2004 23:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 277 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
how do you know they have money for the case? The money could be provided by a third party specifically for the case
AmigaOS 4.0 Developer Pre-release goes gold : Comment 283 of 283ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 22-Apr-2004 08:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 279 (Anonymous):
Of course.
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