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[News] Aosolin is releasedANN.lu
Posted on 28-Apr-2004 19:00 GMT by aosolin93 comments
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Aosolin, a special version of UAE on Linux has been just released.

www.aosolin.org
What is Aosolin ?

Aosolin stands for AmigaOSoverLINux.

By working on aosolin, I try to merge the source of linux UAE 0.8.22, linux UAE 0.8.21/JIT and WINUAE 0.8.22. The result is not perfect, but I think it is not so bad.

In a near future, I will release some packages to build a custom Linux distribution based on slackware, to boot directly aosolin in few seconds.


www.aosolin.org
Aosolin is released : Comment 1 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by bob on 28-Apr-2004 18:41 GMT
interesting, this is much like what cloanto are doing.

i want kicksoft to get off their butts and allow me to order amiga forever 6 CD online, so i can buy the cd version :( their site still refers to AA v5

this is the closest legal thing to amithlon (i won't buy v1 from anyone while the legal status remains unclear)
Aosolin is released : Comment 2 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Rafo on 28-Apr-2004 19:03 GMT
www.penicilin.com

what do you think all those spams were about, eh ?
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Posted by Agima on 28-Apr-2004 19:13 GMT
>> In a near future, I will release some packages to build a custom Linux distribution based on slackware, to boot directly aosolin in few seconds."


Sounds very cool!

--Agima
http://www.amiga.org/uploads/cavt4089454841ee2.jpg
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Posted by Wayne Dresing, PhD. on 28-Apr-2004 20:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Agima):
Hello Agima!

Nice picture, is that you?


I thought you were an OS4 ONLY BAF, you actually like UAE emulators?
Aosolin is released : Comment 5 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Agima on 28-Apr-2004 21:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Wayne Dresing, PhD.):
>>I thought you were an OS4 ONLY BAF, you actually like UAE emulators?

BAF is right!! Just as ling as it's based on the original Amiga source code. Of course UAE and Amithlon 'actually' run Amiga OS (TM) code so they are something I'm interested in. Amiga OS 4 is of course just a continuation of the Amiga source code as well so I'm interested in that too.

The reason I'm not too into MorphOS is because it's is "in no way" based on Amiga source code. It's a completely new OS like Linux.

Not into the PegI or II because it is a small time board that has no future, at least not as long as Bill Buck is at the helm.

-Agima

P.S. That picture is a cross between You (DoomMaster stop hiding behind the Wayne Dresing Phd. name please) and BB :)
Aosolin is released : Comment 6 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Leif on 28-Apr-2004 21:26 GMT
Yeah..
It all begun one day, when the os-developers at commodore
fond a rusty old floppydisk on the floor..
What is this they asked, lets put it in to the pc
and hope that it is in fact full of sourcecode saved
in word format. AND IT WAS. They where amazed by the source
and swore to never give it up, and treasure it forever.
We have NO CLUE how this works but damn, its good.

Later in 1999 (or something like that) Ralph Smidth
felt something under his bare foots.. it was also a rustu
old floppydisk... he was going to set it on fire when
he felt a compelling feeling to stuff it into his
Amiga 1200, IT WAS READALE WITH MORE. This looks like an
operatingsystem he thought, with built in emulation of 68k processors..
cool!

Well, you all know the story from there.
Aosolin is released : Comment 7 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 28-Apr-2004 21:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Agima):
>Amiga OS 4 is of course just a continuation of the Amiga source code as well
>so I'm interested in that too.

Actually its completely rewritten, with little or none of the original source code remaining - one of the reasons it took so long.

Guess you'll have to stick with 3.1 so as not to be tainted by evil non-Amiga (TM) code :)
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Posted by T_Bone on 28-Apr-2004 23:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Agima):
ROFLMAO!!!!!!! Love the picture! :D
Aosolin is released : Comment 9 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 29-Apr-2004 03:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Lando):
Yeah thats right Lando. How about this for an equivalent load of cobblers:

MorphOS has more original AOS3.1 source in it than AOS4.0.
Aosolin is released : Comment 10 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Bill "tekmage" Borsari on 29-Apr-2004 04:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Lando):
Um, I don't think every line of code was rewritten. I'm sure much of it is the same except for changes needed to make it PPC, Reaction and bug fixes. Of course I'd imagine that some elements have been completely re-written. There is also the fact that OS 4 developers can legally look at previous version source, even cut and paste :) As for why it's taking so long it cause it's ambitious to re-architected parts of the OS while breaking it of hardware dependance to make it run on new and relatively untested hardware. Apple was pretty conservative when they moved from 68K to PPC back in 1994, I'll bet the overall delta was less.

Bill "tekmage" Borsari
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Posted by Anonymous on 29-Apr-2004 06:13 GMT
So a GNOME version is called gAsolin then?
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Posted by Anonymous on 29-Apr-2004 06:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Lando):
Hello Lando,

> Actually its completely rewritten, with little or none of the original source code remaining

Pure speculation, i'm afraid. The release notes for quite a few modules go back to OS3.x with listings of the bugs fixed and features added to the original code.

Cheers,
Pete
Aosolin is released : Comment 13 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 29-Apr-2004 06:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Anonymous):
(not that I agree with Agimas stance, I am fairly interested in MOS. Not enough to buy a Peg, but I'm interested in it nonetheless).
Aosolin is released : Comment 14 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 29-Apr-2004 06:47 GMT
let's put the MOS vs OS4 war aside for a moment :)

Both are interested for Amiga users... Now that OS4 is almost there, and MOS 1.5 will probably come soon too, a real comparison will be possible. May the best win :)

- mahen (peg user since oct 2002 :)
Aosolin is released : Comment 15 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 29-Apr-2004 06:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (mahen):
interesting, not interested :)

for a simple reason : both OS4 and MOS run Amiga programs, are not emulators, contain an enhanced AmigaOS API, are made by long term amiga developers for long term amiga users... The way both will evolve is gonna differ... But this is in no way related to the faithfulness to the original OS 3.X sourcecode (which is very old and has tons of flaws). Both projets are exciting.

So let's stop the war, and enjoy the fact that we have the possibility to make a choice :) No sense taking camps as we do.
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Posted by Dan on 29-Apr-2004 06:56 GMT
It´s not using Richard Drummonds UAE then?
he is also working on getting the WinUAE improvments to work on linuxuae.
It would be silly to do the same work twice since uae is opensource.
Aosolin is released : Comment 17 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by zed on 29-Apr-2004 07:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Dan):
You are right, I will merge the source of aosolin with drummond's uae version.


Regards,

Zed/FLA, AOSoLIN
Aosolin is released : Comment 18 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 29-Apr-2004 07:30 GMT
This seems like a massive duplication of effort. Richard Drummand and Colanto are both doing simialr things... not to mention the WinUAE "team".

Surely a better idea would be to get the AROS 68K Amiga port running in UAE, so that UAE can run without the need for a Real Amioga ROM.
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Posted by ikir on 29-Apr-2004 07:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Matt Parsons):
Amioga? Never heard about it :-P

@ all
Don't start another MOS VS OS4! Enjoy your choice and be balanced :-D
Aosolin is released : Comment 20 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 29-Apr-2004 08:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (mahen):
Not that I want to start another flamewar here, I would just like to point out a few factual errors:

>both OS4 and MOS run Amiga programs,

That depends on what you mean by "run" and "Amiga programs". I guess you meant to say that both are capable of running AmigaOS3.x applications through 68k emulation. When it comes to AmigaOS4.x applications, only AmigaOS4 is capable of running them.

>are not emulators,

While AmigaOS4 is atleast capable of running modern AmigaOS4 applications natively, MorphOS will not run *any* Amiga applications without emulation.

>contain an enhanced AmigaOS API,

MorphOS has no "enhanced AmigaOS API". It's entirely new APIs with AmigaOS3.x compatibility through reverse engineering for giving their users a more convinient transition from the classic Amiga to their new computer platform. Implementing AmigaOS3.1 comptibility in Windows' API would not make the Windows API an "enhanced AmigaOS API".

>are made by long term amiga developers for long term amiga users...

That depends on what you mean by "amiga developers". Surely you're not saying that anyone involved in the MorphOS project has worked on the original AmigaOS and/or has had access to the original AmigaOS sources?
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Posted by brotheris on 29-Apr-2004 08:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Sammy Nordström):
I guess you meant to say that both are capable of running AmigaOS3.x applications through 68k emulation

Atleast Dopus5 works on MOS unlike...

MorphOS has no "enhanced AmigaOS API". It's entirely new APIs with AmigaOS3.x compatibility through reverse engineering

It has enhanced AmigaOS API, becouse ABOX is AmigaOS reimplementation and it is enhanced by new functions. You want to tell me that only name holders can create same APIs ? Mind you QBOX api isn't public and you can't compare QBOX with OS4.

That depends on what you mean by "amiga developers"

So you're saying that developer can call himself "Amiga developer" only if he worked on 'original' AmigaOS sources ? You're so funny. Yes yes, you are. Please go on.
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Posted by Sammy Nordström on 29-Apr-2004 09:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (brotheris):
>>I guess you meant to say that both are capable of running AmigaOS3.x >>applications through 68k emulation
>
>Atleast Dopus5 works on MOS unlike...

Hyperion owns Dopus Magellan.

>>MorphOS has no "enhanced AmigaOS API". It's entirely new APIs with AmigaOS3.x
>>compatibility through reverse engineering
>
>It has enhanced AmigaOS API, becouse ABOX is AmigaOS reimplementation and it
>is enhanced by new functions. You want to tell me that only name holders can
>create same APIs ? Mind you QBOX api isn't public and you can't compare QBOX
>with OS4.

A replicate does not an original make. Reimplementation? How could something possibly be reimplemented before it was implemented?

>>That depends on what you mean by "amiga developers"
>
>So you're saying that developer can call himself "Amiga developer" only if he
>worked on 'original' AmigaOS sources ?

No. Again, it all depends on how you define an Amiga developer. It's easy to interpret Amiga developer as an AmigaOS developer when the context is about the OS rather than the applications. However, that was is just one way of interpreting an abstract concept such as "Amiga developer" and I didn't say that this would be the only way of interpreting it.
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Posted by brotheris on 29-Apr-2004 09:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Sammy Nordström):
Hyperion owns Dopus Magellan.

Yeah, right. Go and ask GPSoftware.

A replicate does not an original make

Yes, but replicant looks the same to application. Only user with 'high morale' follows 'true' path.

It's easy to interpret Amiga developer as an AmigaOS developer when the context is about the OS rather than the applications

And difference in this context is ... ? Yep, there's none. Developers for long time doing such lowlevel stuff as ppc library, cgx, drivers, etc. They know OS inside out. But guess what, there is no reason to follow people or names (which is quite common), you follow products, even existing ones.
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Posted by Matt Parsons on 29-Apr-2004 09:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Sammy Nordström):
Sammy, please try talking about something you actually understand? I seem to remember you saying that you worked in a Car Repair Shop... try talking about Car repair.
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Posted by Matt Parsons on 29-Apr-2004 09:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (ikir):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Amioga? Never heard about it :-P
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Oh, really? They were somewhat popular in the early 90's but were often over looked in favour of a worse machine, with better marketing called an Amiga.
Aosolin is released : Comment 26 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 29-Apr-2004 09:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (brotheris):
>>Hyperion owns Dopus Magellan.
>
>Yeah, right. Go and ask GPSoftware.

Sorry about that. The correct word should have been "possess" rather than "owns". Even better; Hyperion has an arrangement with GPSoftware whereby Hyperion are able to continue the development of Directory Opus for OS4.0. Happy?

Reference: http://www.amiga.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=221

>>A replicate does not an original make
>
>Yes, but replicant looks the same to application. Only user with 'high morale'
>follows 'true' path.

No. MorphOS applications won't run in AmigaOS4 and AmigaOS4 applications won't run in MorphOS. Even if they have AmigaOS3.x compatibility as their common denominator, we're still talking about different APIs that are not compatible with each other nor looks the same to the application.

>>It's easy to interpret Amiga developer as an AmigaOS developer when the
>>context is about the OS rather than the applications
>
>And difference in this context is ... ? Yep, there's none. Developers for long
>time doing such lowlevel stuff as ppc library, cgx, drivers, etc. They know OS
>inside out. But guess what, there is no reason to follow people or names
>(which is quite common), you follow products, even existing ones.

I don't "follow" anything nor am I the one beeing offended when someone states that the Amiga is a brand for a commercial product rather than everything that complies with a certain philosophy.
Aosolin is released : Comment 27 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 29-Apr-2004 10:10 GMT
Oh for heavens sake.

Can someone please SHUT HIM UP?
Aosolin is released : Comment 28 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 29-Apr-2004 10:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Sammy Nordström):
The correct word should have been "possess" rather than "owns"

I'm not picking on words. This 'agreement' is old and iirc a contract was never signed. Go ask GPSoftware now what they think about that 'agreement'. Remember that way back GPSoftware complained that Hyperion didn't hold their part of the deal and after bit of silence later everything went quiet. Dopus5 was forgoten. Maybe in the future it will be remembered ;-)

No. MorphOS applications won't run in AmigaOS4 and AmigaOS4 applications won't run in MorphOS

Well, do'h. But we are talking about compatibilities in API, it is perfectly possible to create compatible apps (3.1 API and 68k).

we're still talking about different APIs that are not compatible with each other nor looks the same to the application

You've read MOS and OS4 SDKs and know the differencies ? Please do tell us about them (and no, I'm not telling that future enhancements on ABOX, i.e. past 3.1 APIs are same as with OS4).

when someone states that the Amiga is a brand for a commercial product

It is a brand, but there is more to it, because brand does not make a good/working product alone.

everything that complies with a certain philosophy

There is Amiga-way of doing things.

Here we go, we have another flamewar :-)~
Aosolin is released : Comment 29 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 29-Apr-2004 10:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Ole-Egil):
Have fun ;-)
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Posted by Christophe Decanini on 29-Apr-2004 10:22 GMT
Would you guys please stick to the original subject ?
Aosolin is released : Comment 31 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 29-Apr-2004 10:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Christophe Decanini):
Please accept my appology, I won't comment on this thread.
Aosolin is released : Comment 32 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 29-Apr-2004 10:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Anonymous):
Ok, thanks mate. I wasn't aware of that. :)
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Posted by TruthMaker on 29-Apr-2004 10:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Sammy Nordström):
>Not that I want to start another flamewar here, I would just like to point out a few factual errors:
Ok let's go !

>>both OS4 and MOS run Amiga programs,
>That depends on what you mean by "run" and "Amiga programs". I guess you meant to say that both are capable of running AmigaOS3.x applications through 68k emulation. When it comes to AmigaOS4.x applications, only AmigaOS4 is capable of running them.

And, as well, MorphOS is the only one able to run MorphOS application

>>are not emulators,
>While AmigaOS4 is atleast capable of running modern AmigaOS4 applications natively, MorphOS will not run *any* Amiga applications without emulation.

What do you mean by modern application ?
The same source code compiled for OS4 is modern while if it's compiled for AmigaOS 68k or MorphOS it's obsolete ?
No sense here

If you speak about memory protection, the OS4 team alredy confess that it will be limited to what is possible like the MorphOS do since the beginning.

>>contain an enhanced AmigaOS API,
>MorphOS has no "enhanced AmigaOS API". It's entirely new APIs with AmigaOS3.x compatibility through reverse engineering for giving their users a more convinient transition from the classic Amiga to their new computer platform. Implementing AmigaOS3.1 comptibility in Windows' API would not make the Windows API an "enhanced AmigaOS API".

MorphOS as a "low level" kernel : Quark (named it like you want) which has nothing to do with the AmigaOS. However, the "top layer" (A-Box) is fully AmigaOS 68k compatible and it also has been extended (Intuition, DT, Exec ...).


>>are made by long term amiga developers for long term amiga users...
>That depends on what you mean by "amiga developers". Surely you're not saying that anyone involved in the MorphOS project has worked on the original AmigaOS and/or has had access to the original AmigaOS sources?

Some people involved in MorphOS has a 10/15 years experience in the AmigaOS, and some have made most on the improvement since Commodore death (CGX, PPC, picture.datatype, 24bit ...).
If you think that people are "long term amiga developers" because they ported (not very well) 3/4 games for WarpOS, then you are wrong.

PS: very useful to have the source code of an hardware-depend OS, half written in asm or other weird language

You should "Open you eyes" (C) Nescafé

Sorry, this post has nothing to do with the original topic, but it may be important to tell some truth to people that have been "Hyperion bullshited"
Bye
Aosolin is released : Comment 34 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Frieden on 29-Apr-2004 10:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Sammy Nordström):
> Hyperion owns Dopus Magellan.

No.
Aosolin is released : Comment 35 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Frieden on 29-Apr-2004 10:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (TruthMaker):
> Sorry, this post has nothing to do with the original topic, but it may be
> important to tell some truth to people that have been "Hyperion bullshited"

Of course... how selfless you are.
Aosolin is released : Comment 36 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 29-Apr-2004 11:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (brotheris):
>>The correct word should have been "possess" rather than "owns"
>
>I'm not picking on words. This 'agreement' is old and iirc a contract was
>never signed. Go ask GPSoftware now what they think about that 'agreement'.
>Remember that way back GPSoftware complained that Hyperion didn't hold their
>part of the deal and after bit of silence later everything went quiet. Dopus5
>was forgoten. Maybe in the future it will be remembered ;-)

http://www.amiga.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1497

Enough said.
Aosolin is released : Comment 37 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 29-Apr-2004 11:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Thomas Frieden):
Again, sorry about the wording.
Aosolin is released : Comment 38 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 29-Apr-2004 12:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (TruthMaker):
>>While AmigaOS4 is atleast capable of running modern AmigaOS4 applications natively, MorphOS will not run *any* Amiga applications without emulation.
>What do you mean by modern application ?

Don't know, but IMO: Any AOS4 native application is modern Amiga application, kind of.

Any new/improved AOS4 app is even more modern Amiga application, etc...

>The same source code compiled for OS4 is modern while if it's compiled for AmigaOS 68k or MorphOS it's obsolete ?

Application for AOS68k is not modern if it is only re-compiled again. But if it is updated with new features, it would/could be a modern Amiga application. It could be obsolete when it is ran on <100Mhz 68 Amigas, though...

It would be too tight to simply limit modern Amiga application to only those that run on PPC AOS.

If application is compiled for MorphOS, should it not be called a MorphOS application?

Or should every MorphOS application be called Amiga applications because they can be run on PPC equipped Classic Amigas? Even though it might be totally incompatible with AmigaOS?

Any new MOS app is MOS application. But if it is compiled also for AOS 68k, would it be Amiga application again...

I think all apps compiled to AmigaOSx.x APIs should be Amiga applications.

Difficult matter... depends on peronal taste?

Could we say that there are no pegasos applications? ;)

>No sense here

There was some sense there. (If one reads the quoted post literally)

>If you speak about memory protection, the OS4 team alredy confess that it will be limited to what is possible like the MorphOS do since the beginning.

Currently it seems that AOS4 MP is "hair's breadth" ahead of MOS1.4.

If I have understood it correctly ... at somepoint full MP will/could be brought to AOS4 in a way that would not break system friendly AOS4 applications, but 68k AOS3.x applications and "simply recompiled" AOS3.x apps would need to be run in a sandbox. (time will tell how it works out)
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Posted by Ole-Egil on 29-Apr-2004 12:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (brotheris):
You evil, evil person.
Aosolin is released : Comment 40 of 93ANN.lu
In reply to Comment 36 (Sammy Nordström):
Message removed by Christophe Decanini for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: trolling
Aosolin is released : Comment 41 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 29-Apr-2004 13:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (brotheris):
>iirc a contract was never signed.

Ahh... selective memory.

>and after bit of silence later everything went quiet.

perhaps it was because the misunderstandings were clarified. ;)

>Dopus5 was forgoten.

It's the same as with Realsoft3D and SOF I guess. Waiting of AOS4 release and/or more resources.

>>No. MorphOS applications won't run in AmigaOS4 and AmigaOS4 applications won't run in MorphOS
>Well, do'h. But we are talking about compatibilities in API, it is perfectly possible to create compatible apps (3.1 API and 68k).

But then they could only use the AOS features from the 90's.... how cool is that?



I think that in the future we most likely see that most of the AOS4.x compatibility is always somehow wrapped to MOS&Abox while MOS specific stuff are not wrapped to AOS4.x. (especially because I expect AOS4.x apps to gain momentum a little bit faster and because Hyperion seems to have 0% interest on MOS stuff...) But only time will tell, ofcourse.
Aosolin is released : Comment 42 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Apr-2004 13:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (priest):
>Currently it seems that AOS4 MP is "hair's breadth" ahead of MOS1.4.

>If I have understood it correctly ... at somepoint full MP will/could be brought to AOS4 in a way that would not break system friendly AOS4 applications, but 68k AOS3.x applications and "simply recompiled" AOS3.x apps would need to be run in a sandbox. (time will tell how it works out)

Sound a lit bit too much like the MorphOS Q/Box to me
Oh yes, I forgot that they decided to copy MorphOS's "way to solve amiga specific problem" again ...
Aosolin is released : Comment 43 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 29-Apr-2004 14:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (priest):

>Dopus5 was forgoten.

It's the same as with Realsoft3D


On Realsoft forums it was written that it'll never happen. Read about Dopus5 here:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=4266&forum=14&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0

There was talk of Dopus being bundled with OS4
But apparantely Hyperion have not signed some
sort of licence agreement ,
And the agreement has now Been cancled
according to a recent thread on the DOpus5
mailing list



PS damn, I've posted again ;-)
Aosolin is released : Comment 44 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Apr-2004 15:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (brotheris):
Well, you should read up on the news items posted here and elsewhere instead.
Aosolin is released : Comment 45 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 29-Apr-2004 16:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Anonymous):
Like on shedule and rockin' ?
Aosolin is released : Comment 46 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Agima on 29-Apr-2004 16:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (brotheris):
>>Like on shedule and rockin' ?

No, more like there were going to be 10,000 Peg boards out before the end of 2003...
Aosolin is released : Comment 47 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by Dan on 29-Apr-2004 18:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Matt Parsons):
>This seems like a massive duplication of effort. Richard Drummand and Colanto >are both doing simialr things... not to mention the WinUAE "team".
Gettting back ONTOPIC!
Isn´t the whole idea behind this "an opensource AF6.0 alternative"?
he said that he will cooperate with Drummond on LinuxUAE so no duplication there

>Surely a better idea would be to get the AROS 68K Amiga port running in UAE, so >that UAE can run without the need for a Real Amioga ROM.
Or AROS with ArosUAE as a AF6.0 and Asolin alternative:-)
Then AROS would pickup speed.
Does the serial port and sound(if hosted) work in AROSUAE?
Could i host AROS on Knoppix?
Aosolin is released : Comment 48 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 29-Apr-2004 19:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (Agima):
So you got the point
Aosolin is released : Comment 49 of 93ANN.lu
Posted by mark on 29-Apr-2004 19:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Sammy Nordström):
MorphOS won't run AmigaOS 4 programs, but will AmigaOS 4 run MorphOS programs?

The issue is that both products are compatible and similar to what the Amiga platform is currently, not that both products will be compatible and similar to whatever AmigaTM OS might become in future.

The former is relevant to anyone still interested in the Amiga platform. The latter will only be relevant to people who decide that OS4 turns out better than MorphOS. So effectively you are saying that people who prefer OS4 in future would be better off with OS4. Well, duh.
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Posted by Sammy Nordström on 30-Apr-2004 04:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (brotheris):
But you obviusly didn't. What you should read, for example, is the article I posted. There were some issues regarding the agreement between GPSoft and Hyperion, but that was solved and the contract was reinstated.
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