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[Web] MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.huANN.lu
Posted on 12-May-2004 09:19 GMT by Emeric SH51 comments
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A support page for MorphOS SDL development has been launched. You can track history, download sources and various precompiled ports here, just as well as you can send feedbacks and bug reports. There are many projects around using the widespread Simple Directmedia Layer, which is under active development for AmigaOS and MorphOS. The downloads at the site with short english descriptions and pictures are to encourage development and porting of SDL applications.

As SDL is in active development, even the ports of otherwise "final" releases may contain bugs, so reporting them and providing feedback to developers is highly encouraged.

(Some of the ports require components which will be publicly available in MorphOS 1.5.)

The site is maintained by LouiSe, and a great deal of efforts went into it. Many thanks!

http://sdl.innoidea.hu
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 1 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 12-May-2004 07:23 GMT
An URL might be handy... :P
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 2 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 12-May-2004 07:24 GMT
Err, forget i said Anything ....
/me goes & drinks some coffee
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 3 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 12-May-2004 07:26 GMT
Only one small beef with the site, you might want to consider reducing the 2 banners on the top of the page, they are rather large, otherwise the site is clear, and looks good.

Cheers
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 4 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 12-May-2004 07:26 GMT
Didn't know that you're interested in MorphOS SDL Development, Amon :))) Welcome aboard :)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 5 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 12-May-2004 07:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Emeric SH):
Just keeping an eye out to that other side, gotta know what to use to annoy you lot with eh :P

Nah, nice job on the site :)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 6 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 12-May-2004 07:30 GMT
Thanks :)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 7 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 12-May-2004 07:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Emeric SH):
<Off topic>
Do you know of any RPG's that are using SDL?
</Off topic>
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 8 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 12-May-2004 07:57 GMT
Whine_mode=on

So much GL stuff ported and I am left without 3d drivers for Radeon.

UNFAIR!!!!!!! =)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 9 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 12-May-2004 07:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Amon_Re):
http://www.libsdl.org/games.php?order=name&category=16&completed=0&os=any&match_name=&perpage=50

Hope this link will be satisfactory. :) There is a search function at libsdl.org :)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 10 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 12-May-2004 08:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (hooligan/dcs):
"So much GL stuff ported and I am left without 3d drivers for Radeon."

You only have to wait for MorphOS 1.5. No, it won't come out "very soon now", I hope it will come out a bit earlier.
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 11 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 12-May-2004 08:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Emeric SH):
Not really, sadly :( Why are there so few decent RPG'?
Thank god for emulation & SNES roms P
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 12 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 12-May-2004 08:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (hooligan/dcs):
/me deletes the radion driver source...

"Oops" :P
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 13 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 12-May-2004 08:18 GMT
"Not really, sadly :( Why are there so few decent RPG'?"

The opportunity is open to write your own :) Using SDL it will be pretty easily portable, so I say, go for it :)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 14 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 12-May-2004 08:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Emeric SH):
The stories i can come up with, the coding i can do, however, i couldn't draw a straight line even if my life depended on it :( (And i'm even worse with music!)

I actually have been toying with the idea of an "rpg maker" like tool with support for as much platforms as possible, but i've not started on such a thing yet, maybe i should get of my (extremely) lazy ass :)

Cheers
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 15 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Jon on 12-May-2004 12:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Amon_Re):
For a decent RPG, why wouldn't you go for a good game of Moria, NetHack, Angband, ADOM, ZAngband or T.o.M.E. (sp?) ?
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 16 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 12-May-2004 15:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Jon):
There are alot more then just those, just visit rpgone.net(?), loads of really good RPG's, sadly the better ones rarely make it into an English (or other parseble language for me) version.

Tales of Phantasia is one of my favourites, excellent story, and (for it's time) splendid gfx & sound.

Cheers
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 17 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Jon on 12-May-2004 17:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Amon_Re):
Thanks for the tip but I don't like very much Japanese style (although we have a GameCube that has some excellent games...). I haven't played graphical RGPs lately, maybe Dungeon Master 2 and Liberation being the latest. I like rogue-like games, but about those mentioned above, I think ZAngband & ToME are nicest to get into...NetHack is weird and I always die because of starvation in ADOM and NH...
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 18 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Jon on 12-May-2004 17:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Amon_Re):
Oh, and by the way, maybe you should learn some scripting language, because Angband variants seems to support them. Perhaps you could write your own RPG easily.
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 19 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 12-May-2004 17:28 GMT
Both thumbs up! Great site! :-D
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 20 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 12-May-2004 17:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Jon):
I'm decent in C & scripting languages, it's graphical skills i lack :(
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 21 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 12-May-2004 18:48 GMT
When's an AOS implmentation coming...
How about an AROS?

(Sorry, this site just seems to always ask for MOS implementations after someone announces an AOS4.x product so it's only fair.)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 22 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Jon on 12-May-2004 18:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
What do you mean? AFAIK there is an AmigaOS port of SDL.
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 23 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Crumb // AAT on 12-May-2004 19:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Jon):
yes, but it hasn't OpenGL integrated.
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 24 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 12-May-2004 19:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Crumb // AAT):
Last i heard OpenGL was ported to AOS4, same for SDL, no clue about how tightly they are integrated.

So, yes, SDL is available for AOS (it's even mentioned on the main sdl website), but this site caters for MOS ports, perhaps they will expand it to include AOS, perhaps not, and someone else will do such a site (or use AmigaShare.com eg).

Cheers
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 25 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 12-May-2004 20:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Jon):
Don't worry about it. Comment 21 is a blatant troll, that's all.

SDL is already ported to AmigaOS (Classic, as in pre-OS4) and also to AROS. OpenGL isn't fully available for either AFAIK, though you may get some joy with MiniGL or Mesa.

Talk of AmigaOS 4.0 ports is premature, since it has not yet been released to the public. When it is, I'm sure someone will do the ports.
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 26 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 00:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Bill Hoggett):
I think one of the Friedens (or maybe it was Steffen Haueser) talked about a port, but I can't find a link to the comment. Consider it circumstancial evidence, if nothing else :)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 27 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Felix on 13-May-2004 05:07 GMT
Great site!
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 28 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 13-May-2004 06:37 GMT
A lot of cool games! Another World and Cube rocks.
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 29 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by froggie on 13-May-2004 06:44 GMT
Didn't know Neverwinter Nights was SDL! Cooool.. That I'd like to see on amiga!
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 30 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 06:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
actually it is the oposite way. Everytime a MOS Prog is released, someone is complaining that there is no OS 4.0 Version.
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 31 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 13-May-2004 07:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Anonymous):
It happens in both directions, you might remember when PageStream was announced for OAS4
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 32 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 13-May-2004 07:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Amon_Re):
PageStream is still alive? Huh.. when was this announced?
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 33 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 13-May-2004 08:25 GMT
An SDL port for OS4 already exist and works :-)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 34 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Felix on 13-May-2004 11:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (ikir):
With OpenGL ?
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 35 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 11:39 GMT
Shadow of the beat deluxe uses SDL !!!


http://sotb.free.fr
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 36 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Crumb // AAT on 13-May-2004 12:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Felix):
I don't think so... I guess that they'd better spend their time coding Warp3D Radeon drivers, after that, we'll see.
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 37 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by thefab on 13-May-2004 13:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Anonymous):
oh, if steffen haeuser made this port you can expect a bunch of atomic explosion or some major performance loss of the sdl (hmmm what? a sdl slower than sdl? is it really possible?)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 38 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Jon on 13-May-2004 13:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Anonymous):
We must have it! The circle closes... :)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 39 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 13-May-2004 13:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Bill Hoggett):
Surely talks of OS4 ports are not immature as long as there are both developers and end users actually using it? No, it isn't available to the PUBLIC, but asking for it in ADVANCE might actually be a good idea.

Some days I really don't get it with you guys ;-)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 40 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 13:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Crumb // AAT):
AFAIK Even AmigaOS SDL can be used to port OpenGL stuff, because it supports Warp3D
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 41 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 13:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Anonymous):
Warp3D + Mesa
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 42 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 13:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (hooligan/dcs):
Yep. OS4 version of pagestream was announced, (can't remember exact date)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 43 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 13:50 GMT
Don't worry.

If OS4 SDL does have OpenGL support from start, then I'm sure that sooner or later projects in that MOS SDL page will be ported to OS4.

We can just wait and let MOS people do the hard work, we can then just port MOS versions to OS4 :)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 44 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Felix on 13-May-2004 14:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Anonymous):
Pffffff...
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 45 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 14:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Felix):
What ? :) Most of the SDL games are under GPL, so what's wrong ? :)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 46 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 13-May-2004 15:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Anonymous):
>We can just wait and let MOS people do the hard work, we can then just port MOS versions to OS4 :)

afaik, the whole POINT of SDL is to make porting easy :-)
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 47 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 13-May-2004 15:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Anonymous):
PageStream is in the works for both MOS and OS4. MOS version will use
MUI, the OS4 version will use Reaction. With an updated GUI this will
surely be a *very* nice program.
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 48 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 13-May-2004 15:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Ole-Egil):
Surely talks of OS4 ports are not immature as long as there are both developers and end users actually using it? No, it isn't available to the PUBLIC, but asking for it in ADVANCE might actually be a good idea.

Ah, but look who you are asking for it in advance of. If you were asking for it in advance of Hyperion, or you, or other AmigaOS4 developers who have access to these pre-release copies (have they actually been shipped yet?), then I'd understand, but you are asking for support from people who don't have AmigaOnes or pre-release AmigaOS4 either. Duh!

Supply these people with the hardware and software, and then you have a right to ask for support. Otherwise, I'd say that rather than bleating at the lack of AmigaOS4 support it would be better if people got their fingers out of their backsides and did the work themselves.

Sometimes I don't understand you people. Why encourage blatant trolling?
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 49 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Felix on 13-May-2004 16:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (Jupp3):
Yeah exactly..

Don't know if you noticed, the first anouncement of AOS4 was in 1945.
MorphOS SDL Support Website - http://sdl.innoidea.hu : Comment 50 of 51ANN.lu
Posted by Jon on 13-May-2004 16:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Felix):
Well, you know, the software industry ;) SCNR
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