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[News] Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 tooANN.lu
Posted on 13-May-2004 07:11 GMT by Raffaele52 comments
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Elena Novaretti, with the help of Massimo Tantignone, released a version of her good program Power Icons for AmigaOS4 too. It includes also features like those present in the MorphOS version such as alpha-blending for icons. News forwarded originally from amigaworld.net thru Iksnet.it. SCREENSHOTS AVAILABLE.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 1 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 13-May-2004 05:34 GMT
Can't wait for the "There is no TCP-IP in MorphOS" guys to tell us "There are no PNG icons in OS4", following their logic :)

Anyway, great news, and a really nice job Elena!
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 2 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 13-May-2004 05:36 GMT
Second program for OS4 already and it's not even released. Looks good =)
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 3 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 13-May-2004 05:37 GMT
And a little misunderstanding:

"It includes also features like those present in the MorphOS version such as alpha-blending for icons."

In MorphOS it's not PowerIcons handling PNG Icons, it's internal. So (as the news item correctly tells on amigaworld.net) it includes also features like those present in the _original_ (AmigaOS) version.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 4 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Jon on 13-May-2004 05:48 GMT
Nice example of cooperation.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 5 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 13-May-2004 06:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Jon):
Very nice! Thanks Elena and Massimo!

It is a good thing having the famouse Power Icons on OS4. Personally i'm looking forward for the new Glow Icons (256 colors palette for every icon) of Mason. But ehi! It is very cool to have also png icons!

Thanks so much.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 6 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 13-May-2004 06:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Jon):
From AW.net:

"You'll like to hear, then, that the AmigaOS 4.0 version of PowerIcons does indeed show the icon in realtime when moving it around (complete with alpha blending). Also, the new icon library already supports things like making "default" icons slightly transparent (selectable in workbench prefs), and of course the shadow/outline effect of icon labels is also already included. Furthermore, you may opt to show the label when moving icons."
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 7 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 06:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Emeric SH):
No, like in the original _MOS_ Version with Workbench 3.x as Desktop...
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 8 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 13-May-2004 07:27 GMT
Now we're talking...well done!! :)
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 9 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Crumb // AAT on 13-May-2004 07:38 GMT
@Elena&Massimiliano:
Good job! BTW, what about using MPNG files instead of PNG so we can have selected icons? MPNG files are standard so it wouldn't be as hacky as putting 2 pngs inside an icon file
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 10 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 13-May-2004 08:09 GMT
Grate work Elena and Massimiliano,
Question how is icon property’s stored?
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 11 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by funny on 13-May-2004 08:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Kjetil):
the tooltypes, positions and so on should be stored in the text chunks the png specs allow to use.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 12 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 09:00 GMT
Wow, many cool features added to OS4! :) I just
wish it would come out soon :)
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 13 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 13-May-2004 09:19 GMT
Nice. Also nice for those developers working on multiple platforms, no need to provide old 8bit icons for backward compatibility.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 14 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Mostafa on 13-May-2004 09:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (itix):
Yes it is isnt it ;-)

Shame others cant follow the same example.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 15 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 13-May-2004 09:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (hooligan/dcs):
Side effect of the blue-pill: not able to calculate ??
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 16 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 13-May-2004 09:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (priest):
+ a smilie that I forgot: ;-)
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 17 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 09:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Emeric SH):
Well, there is no OS4 available for AOne (yet again and again)

You want to speak about non working DMA maybe :-P

Bye
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 18 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 10:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (hooligan/dcs):
There is lot more than just 2 native programs for the OS4 :) If you don't follow news, then you are just trolling :)
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 19 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 10:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Anonymous):
Some of you guys are really boring if you don't understand it yourself. Are you like that in IRL too ?
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 20 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Rafo on 13-May-2004 10:11 GMT
<SARCASM>

Well, the OS already gets patched, it's been damn fast.
I guess we'll see Executive and MCP for AOS4 pretty soon too.

</SARCASM>
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 21 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 13-May-2004 10:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Crumb // AAT):
MNG-VLC was specced for the MorphOS icon system but one thing basically made
it a pointless exercise:

There are no Amiga, MorphOS or pretty much any other apps that create MNG
animations reliably.

Internet Explorer doesn't view them without a bulky ActiveX control, neither
does any other Amiga browser. Mozilla even had it's support removed in favour
of an external plugin since it adds 500kb to the binary and never gets used.
Paint Shop/Animation Shop on the PC creates BROKEN MNG files!

I think once we get something like ImageFX or PPaint to support saving
animations as MNG, it'll be a viable solution. The addition to the PNG format
for icons is totally inoccuous and benign, and fits the standard, and will
sit happily in an MNG file too.

Neko
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 22 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 13-May-2004 10:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anonymous):
There is?
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 23 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 10:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Rafo):
MorphOS was patched much earlier because there is eg. Powericons for it too :)

Note, that you don't have to use PowerIcons if you don't want to. It's not a patch which fixes flaws/bugs in the OS.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 24 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 10:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (hooligan/dcs):
Yes there is.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 25 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 10:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (hooligan/dcs):
LOL, So Mature, oh I almost thought it was surprising for a moment there...heh
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 26 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 10:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Anonymous):
No it is for Workbench 3.x used instead of Ambient under MOS. So no patch to Ambient. You see, it is no Problem to have another Desktop then Ambient with MorphOS. It is even possible to use Dopus Magellan.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 27 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 11:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Anonymous):
Sure, you can run Dopus Magellan under OS4 too. There is no PPC version of Magellan, so both MOS and OS4 run the same Magellan-II under m68k emulation.
If you did think it's just MOS which can do then sorry to break your illusion :)
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 28 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 11:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Anonymous):
If i don't remember wrong there is MOS version of PowerIcons even if it patches m68k WB.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 29 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by ujb on 13-May-2004 11:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Anonymous):
Ther you logic goes: "it patches *68k WB*".
The binary is a MOS binary but it affects the WB not an MOS system programm...
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 30 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 13-May-2004 11:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Anonymous):
Sure, you can run Dopus Magellan under OS4 too

So it works now on OS4 ?
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 31 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 13-May-2004 11:45 GMT
Very nice of Elena! :-) This will do wonders to the appearance of OS4.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 32 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Crumb // AAT on 13-May-2004 11:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Neko):
That's interesting... but I think that if MNG support is added it would be enough to create a MNG.datatype so most of gfx programs will be able to create "icons"
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 33 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 11:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Anonymous):
Last Time I checked, there where many troubles with Dopus Mag II on OS 4.0 .. solved? Anyway the Post was about Hacks in MOS.. Powericons is a hack to Workbench 3.x and it is avaialbe as MOS Binary, because it is also possible to have Workbench 3.x under MorphOS.. When do people understand the dirfference between a Desktop and the whole OS? MorphOS=Operating System, Ambient=MOS Desktop. AmigaOS=Operating System, Workbench=AmigaOS Desktop.
And as mentioned before, it is possible to have Workbench 3.x as MOS Desktop as well as Dopus Mag II and afair Scalos.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 34 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 13-May-2004 12:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Anonymous):
Yeah.. me trolling again :(
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 35 of 52ANN.lu
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Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 36 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by thefab on 13-May-2004 12:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (brotheris):
hmmm, i doubt it works yet, it was stated on amigaworld.net that it was not the fault of amigaos4 if Magellan didn't work (the problems was the listers IIRC) on it. Magellan is no more under development for amiga, so if it work one day on amigaos4, someone could say that it was, in fact, OS4 which was faulty no?
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 37 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Frieden on 13-May-2004 13:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Phillip for os5):
The amount of "maturity" some people exhibit is really astonishing.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 38 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Hans-Joerg Frieden on 13-May-2004 13:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Phillip for os5):
You are disgusting.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 39 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 13-May-2004 13:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Neko):
In aros you already have two states like AmigaOS, an the only thing you have to do is join 2 png files
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 40 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 13-May-2004 13:48 GMT
By the way Elena, if you are reading this forum thread...

Can you realize PowerIcons for Dopus Magellan running under MorphoS?

(Because the Dopus Icons under MorphOS are all a square named "Ambient PNG Icon")

There are two "very important users" here in Naples (one in Naples and one in Caserta) who will apprecciate ***a lot*** this effort from you.

And I bet we both know who they are... ;-)

Ciao,

Raffaele
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 41 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 17:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Thomas Frieden):
See all the anonymous posts and it will show the level of maturity among OS4 fans.

And what is the problim with having a huge cock?
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 42 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-May-2004 21:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Anonymous):
Thomas does NOT have a huge cock. Or is that Hans-Joerg?
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 43 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 14-May-2004 03:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Anonymous):
hahahahahahahahahahaha
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 44 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 14-May-2004 03:24 GMT
LOL! funny thread! ;)
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 45 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Miky060 on 14-May-2004 07:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Raffaele):
> By the way Elena, if you are reading this forum thread...

She usually doesn't read these forums..

> Can you realize PowerIcons for Dopus Magellan running under MorphoS?

No, this is an old, old, old question already treated and explained a looooot of time ago: Magellan uses an internal way to draw icons on its desktop that is not documented. She tryed some experimentation and a bit of reverse engin. but there has been nothing to do.


> (Because the Dopus Icons under MorphOS are all a square named "Ambient PNG Icon")

She perfectly know all these. We all (expecially in MorphOS community) spoke about this when PowerIcons was born (almost a year ago) and I remeber you that at beginning she created this program for her personal needs:
Elena didn't like Ambient, the MorphOS desktop, because (expecially in first releases) was really poor of functionality even if damn fast and stable. So she decided to use the Workbench (the AmigaOS 'Desktop') on top of MorphOS on her loved Pegasos. Obviously in this way she loosed the possibility to have these wonderfull 24bit PNG icons used by Ambient/MorphOS. So she decided to create PowerIcons!

After that, when PIcons was finally perfectly stable ans usable, she wanted to give a big present to all our Amiga community compileing this wonderfull tool also for 68k. Finally now she adapted it also to run on top of AmigaOS4.0!
This is the story people :-)

> There are two "very important users" here in Naples (one in Naples and one in Caserta) who will apprecciate ***a lot*** this effort from you.
> And I bet we both know who they are... ;-)

She knows, she knows. I tell you again that a loooot of testing on Magellan has been done both on my Peg that on her Peg. No hopes to have it running on Magellan (that I'm useing on my Pegasos from the beginning!). I'm a big, big fanatic of Opus Magellan (never used Workbench on all my Amigas in the past since years), but however, even if in the past months I soffered a lot because of this impossibility, now I'm not sad anymore, beacuse I know that soon Ambient will have same Magellan features. So there will be no more need to use this big piece of software on top of my OS.

--------------------------
Michele Magliocca
www.pegasos-italia.com
--------------------------
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 46 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Frieden on 14-May-2004 08:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Darth_X):
What's funny about some anonymous cowards ? It just shows that some people really need to get a life and some decensy.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 47 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 14-May-2004 08:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Anonymous):
one would need to use the dark side to enjoy "full dives"
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 48 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Georg Steger on 14-May-2004 10:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Miky060):
> > Can you realize PowerIcons for Dopus Magellan running under MorphoS?
>
> No, this is an old, old, old question already treated and explained a looooot of time ago: Magellan uses an internal
> way to draw icons on its desktop that is not documented. She tryed some experimentation and a bit of reverse
> engin. but there has been nothing to do.

Don't have Magellan, but it's very likely using intuition.library/DrawImage() to
draw icons, as that was the standard way of doing it in the pre AOS 3.5 era, where
a special function to draw icons did not yet exist. It was only introduced in 3.5:
icon.library/DrawIconState().

Even if a bit tricky it's certainly not impossible to patch old-style icon drawing
(ie. DrawImage) as well.
Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 49 of 52ANN.lu
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Elena Novaretti releases Power icons for AmigaOS4 too : Comment 50 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by Framiga on 14-May-2004 16:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Eva):
Bingo!!! ;-)
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