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Posted on 18-May-2004 18:34 GMT by Kjetil30 comments
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Now that Downloaded a where Nice Mpeg file, I can report that there is more images and films on AmigaWorld.Net, The video contains: AudioEveolution, ArtEffect40bata, MciroAOne, HollyWood, Dock whit Anim Icons, Video Essen and More pictures Essen If any one have the rotterdamvideovcd.mpg (Benelux 2003 event) some where Eve like to Se the quake player running super fast on AmigaOS40, I can't find the file on the net, and my web space is limited.
Essen event : Comment 1 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 18-May-2004 17:13 GMT
I'm sorry, I really don't mean to be rude, Kjetil, but I can't help myself from laughing out loud when reading this news article. It's hilarious! =)))
Essen event : Comment 2 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 18-May-2004 17:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Sammy Nordström):
referring to one or two typos there?
Essen event : Comment 3 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 18-May-2004 17:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (hooligan/dcs):
One or two? Please stop, you're killing me! ;-)
Essen event : Comment 4 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 18-May-2004 17:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Sammy Nordström):
It must be fake/parody. Nobody can't mess up the post THAT bad =)
Essen event : Comment 5 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 18-May-2004 17:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (hooligan/dcs):
I don't think I could manage to mess it up that bad even if I was doing it on purpose. :-P

Thanks for the laugh, Kjetil. Again, I hope you're not taking any offense. =)
Essen event : Comment 6 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 18-May-2004 18:11 GMT
How can this be? Red and Blue laughing at same news post, side by side? :-)
Essen event : Comment 7 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 18-May-2004 18:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Sammy Nordström):
I would take offence if I were him... I did tease him a lot quite some time ago
but now I know that, like me, he's dyslectic. Typos are normal for him. He tends
to fuck up in the English language and I tend to fuck the Greek language.
There's nothing funny here.
Get in his position.
I might NOT share his "political" or technical views but I can understand him in
that matter.
Essen event : Comment 8 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 18-May-2004 19:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Sammy Nordström):
I se tow typos, and some missing words, however I don't se any thing extremely funny, at least the 2en paragraph looks okey, it most the the "essen" word right? I think I can se some logic, question where are you from?
Essen event : Comment 9 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 18-May-2004 19:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
"I would take offence if I were him... I did tease him a lot quite some time ago
but now I know that, like me, he's dyslectic. Typos are normal for him. He tends
to fuck up in the English language and I tend to fuck the Greek language.
There's nothing funny here."

Mocking a guy's dyslexia is mean, IMO. I am always impressed by how Kjetil goes on posting as well as he can, although it must be quite a struggle.

A spell checker does not help when a person is severely dyslexic.
Essen event : Comment 10 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 18-May-2004 19:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
I'm not easyely offended, I think where are where different. For me it's an difference between using my spelling errors against me or being able to have a laugh, spelling errors can be funny. When you have the problems to my extent you need to be self ironic, after all I'm not doing it on intent.

Being self ironic is not easy you need to be in the right mode.
Essen event : Comment 11 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Troels Ersking on 18-May-2004 19:41 GMT
There are some errors but I had no trouble understanding the post. That Kjetil might have some problems with the English language I see nothing funny in. I find myself missing some words now and then or spelling them all wrong :-)
Essen event : Comment 12 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 18-May-2004 19:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Kjetil):
Well, you can't imagine what laughs I have with my friends when I do mistakes in
Greek... Most of the time they sound (and read) TERRIBLY funny. :-P
Essen event : Comment 13 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 18-May-2004 19:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Kjetil):
You still get the meaning across even with the mistakes, there are plently of English people that can spell etc but alas make no sense at all.
Essen event : Comment 14 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 18-May-2004 20:00 GMT
heh some of the music sounds like it came from a dodgy strip poker game..
Essen event : Comment 15 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 19-May-2004 05:45 GMT
I always thought Kjetil can speak English, but isn't familiar with writing it. He regularly uses similar sounding words instead of the right ones, and in addition some typos are added.

I have only slight problems with his texts, sometimes it's not easy to decipher the content, and he tends to misunderstand me - but apart from that he is OK, despite being someone disliking MorphOS :)))
Essen event : Comment 16 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 19-May-2004 08:07 GMT
No offence, but maybe it's more appropriate to be discussing the report as opposed to it's presentation. I'm sure Kjetil won't mind the lack of limelight form his newfound career as a comedian. ;) I hope we're all grown up enough to get over language and "disablity" issues.
Essen event : Comment 17 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 19-May-2004 09:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Emeric SH):
That's spell checking for you. Unfortunately a spell checker (which I believe Kjetil uses) can only check if a word matches anything in the database and suggest likely corrections. Until spell checkers actually start UNDERSTANDING the language they are spell checking they won't know that "Ive" should really have been "I've", not "Eve".

And remember:
Otters need computers too!!!! ;-)
Essen event : Comment 18 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 19-May-2004 11:06 GMT
http://www.nattty.de/Img_0011.jpg ... Well, there's that DVD-housinged mockup/proof-of-concept that's been mentioned... Now if Eyetech just gets in touch with Sanyo's case supplier, they're set. ;>

More seriously, this is my first look at the belly of the beast... is that flat black 'component' in the center one of those strip-type connectors for the TFT interface* (LVDS/DVI, where one is presumed roughly equal to the other, as far as I've been able to tell) ... or just a pair of ICs/a resistor block?

If anyone else already played count-the-connectors and got Eyetech's latest latest story as to what's going on, that always makes interesting news. ;)

---

*If so, yes, this would imply that it's already been there the whole time I've been vaguely whining about it... Not that it'd be horrible to get a uA1 now and a DVI enabled uA1+ later, but given the lag and uncertaintly in getting just this one new revision to market, I have to wonder if that's better than doing it 'right' once... What was this about some proprietary magic bus, anyway, when you could just cram Cardbus and CF bridges on a PCI riser?
Essen event : Comment 19 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 19-May-2004 11:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
As far as i know it's just the transformator block you are refurring to, unless it's some other component you meant?

Take a look here

Cheers
Essen event : Comment 20 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 19-May-2004 14:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Ole-Egil):
That's spell checking for you. Unfortunately a spell checker (which I believe Kjetil uses) can only check if a word matches anything in the database and suggest likely corrections.

Ispell for linux, nice tool :-?

Until spell checkers actually start UNDERSTANDING the language they are spell checking

Thay exist how ever they are not free.

they won't know that "Ive" should really have been "I've", not "Eve".

Eve is correct in that original news item... :o)

I think it's Essen, Video Essen and Picture Essen, essen inn germen means eating. ex. Video eating, Picture eating... :o)

I have checked whit the online version of clue, I use clue when I can't spell the english word, I just type inn the Norwegian words and then I have it,

Ispell will not give me a match if the length of what I spell do not match the length of the word I where trying to write. ex. words whit dubbel symbols.
Essen event : Comment 21 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 19-May-2004 14:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
I can't understand how an MicroA1 can be mounted upside down inn a DVD case, just think about the heat, from the powersupplay, and CPU fan,

At least you need really low power version the CPU
Essen event : Comment 22 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 19-May-2004 14:33 GMT
I where just thinking about ArtEffect40b, if look at it, there is flicker when they move the brush they cut out of the image. it look to as if they are not using any smart refresh, is it the same whit older versions of ArtEffect?
Essen event : Comment 23 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 19-May-2004 20:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Kjetil):
Again, I'm sorry. I really didn't mean to offend, but haven't you ever been in a situation where where you just can't help yourself from laughing even if it's offensive to do so? Please try to look at it as I'm laughing with you rather than at you, ok? :-)

I'm from Sweden, BTW.
Essen event : Comment 24 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 19-May-2004 22:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Amon_Re):
As far as i know it's just the transformator block you are refurring to, unless it's some other component you meant?

Take a look here

'Transformator?' I'm talking about the black 'line' to the left of the video(?) RAM in that shot, a few inches 'in' from the yellow label on the port cluster.

@Kjetil: Generally conduction trumps convection when it comes to cooling chips, and our concept of heat 'rising' has more to do with the densities of fluids than anything else... A chip and heatsink mounted 'upside down' will perform roughly the same as one mounted 'properly;' the fan forces the air to move and heat to exchange regardless of what convection would naturally do. The power supply they're using is a two-stage one as far as I know (12v transformer or simple switching supply outside the box, then the 'extra' one inside to break out the voltages needed), so it shouldn't get *too* hot.

I'd worry about those power transistors on the back of the board, which would seem to always wind up in a 'dead spot' with poor airflow... but I think there was some talk of changing that in a later layout, and if ITX does leave clearance for them, they could probably be coupled to the case itself with a few scraps of thermal pad.
Essen event : Comment 25 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 19-May-2004 22:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Sammy Nordström):
Oh, and I'm getting used to it, but the article was no worse than what Babelfish will usually spit out... If 'Eve' is correct, I still can't make out what the last sentence is supposed to mean, but not having been to the show, I wouldn't know anyway. Nothing that makes my native-speaking mind bust out laughing...?

I do get a headache reading some of the technical arguments, but if there's one thing they prove, it's that the 'simplicity' of the MMU-controlled emulation is a little more complex in practice. (As someone else pointed out, that's actually only handling the case where a program refers to something relatively 'unexpected?' I'd have to reread everything again, my brain's not very functional this week...)
Essen event : Comment 26 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 20-May-2004 08:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
That's the USB & Ethernet port(s)
If you want i can email you the higher res picture, just send me a mail ochal at kefren dot be
Essen event : Comment 27 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 20-May-2004 09:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
"where Eve" shoud be "where, Eve".

Large chars used in on new paragraphs and inn names.
Essen event : Comment 28 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 20-May-2004 10:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
I think this shows that Petunia and Trance are not so diffrent after all,
Essen event : Comment 29 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 20-May-2004 10:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Kjetil):
Is G3-500 with passive cooling ok for you?
Essen event : Comment 30 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-May-2004 05:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Sammy Nordström):
> I'm sorry, I really don't mean to be rude, Kjetil, but I can't help myself
> from laughing out loud when reading this news article. It's hilarious! =)))

I agree! Links to aw.nut? :-D The insanity has no bounds.

Moderators, the news item is lying, the stuff is fortunately not "on" aw.nut, goatse.cx or any other similar troll site. Please replace the abusive links with these links that actually lead to the referred to movies and pics:

MPEG: http://www.amition.de/os4eventessen.html

Pics:
http://amigos.amiga.hu/chip/Essen/thumbs_d/thumbs_p.html
http://www.amigaevent.de.sr/
http://www.qdev.de/?location=amiga/os4eventessen&forcelang=en
http://www.nattty.de/AmigaOS4.html
http://www.amigafuture.de/interactive/sonstiges/essen.php
http://people.freenet.de/soms3d/catalog.html
http://www.def-con.net/OS4/
http://www.kefren.be/mig.php?pageType=folder&currDir=./Amiga/AOS4_Essen_2004
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