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[Unmoderated] What happened to Bill McEwen?ANN.lu
Posted on 21-May-2004 01:24 GMT by Bonzo32 comments
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Well guys, what happened to Bill McEwen? Did he resign?
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 1 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Plaz on 20-May-2004 23:56 GMT
Bill who? :)
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 2 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by EyeAm on 21-May-2004 00:26 GMT
Yeah, huh? Bob did you say? or was that Ben? hmm...
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 3 of 32ANN.lu
In reply to Comment 2 (EyeAm):
Message removed by Christian Kemp for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Personal insult
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 4 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by EyeAm on 21-May-2004 02:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
May it go Open Source ;-)

--EyeAm
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 5 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by anonymous on 21-May-2004 02:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (EyeAm):
was this ignorance not once stricken from this site today?
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 6 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by EyeAm on 21-May-2004 03:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (anonymous):
Hey, don't look at me, I didn't start either thread :-)

But let's dispel the ignorance, shall we? Bill McEwen has not resigned. And there was no death in the family.

--EyeAm
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 7 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Ken on 21-May-2004 04:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (EyeAm):
I don't know what's happening with Bill, but I do know his daughter, Ashley (age 16), passed away May 6, 2004. Maybe this tread needs to be killed as
well.
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 8 of 32ANN.lu
Message removed by Christian Kemp for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Trolling
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 9 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by EyeAm on 21-May-2004 05:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Ken):
How do you know that?

My uncle was murdered March 5th (just got declared an official homicide this past Monday).

--EyeAm
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 10 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Ken on 21-May-2004 05:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (EyeAm):
Gary Peake made the announcement on the Team Amiga mailing list a week
after it happened. No explanation was given as to the cause. Nobody can
hurt Bill any more then he's been hurt already.
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 11 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by EyeAm on 21-May-2004 05:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Ken):
Ok, announcement of death; but he hasn't resigned (there is no mention on amiga.com site).
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 12 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Ferry on 21-May-2004 05:59 GMT
@moderators

PLEASE, for God's sake, kill this thread... :¬/

Saluditos,

Ferrán.
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 13 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by EyeAm on 21-May-2004 06:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Ferry):
Yeah, delete this thread. :)

Let's not return to the subject of Bill McEwen again (unless he did resign, then we can party).

--EyeAm
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 14 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 21-May-2004 06:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (EyeAm):
For your sake Eyeam, I hope there isn't a god.

Cos if there is, one day you are gonna have to account for your callous behaviour.

:(

Mikey C
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 15 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Ferry on 21-May-2004 06:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (EyeAm):
Such a sad thing as the death of a daughter is not a thing to play with, or to make stupid comments about...

But let's dispel the ignorance, shall we? Bill McEwen has not resigned. And there was no death in the family.

What ignorance were you talking about, you own ignorance? >:¬< At least, and just in case, you should show a little more respect.

Saluditos,

Ferrán.
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 16 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by EyeAm on 21-May-2004 06:30 GMT
I searched other sites for the same info, and many bogus threads have been started on ANN before.

One thing can be counted on though: post something totally false, and someone will correct it. :)

Thusly established, what wasn't known for sure (by many): there was a death in the McEwen family.

Still not ascertained: whether he has resigned because of it or some other reason, and whether that first thread posting was bogus about that.

--EyeAm
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 17 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 21-May-2004 06:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (EyeAm):
Who cares? Leave the guy alone already.

Amiga Inc. are irrelevant anyway.
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 18 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by EyeAm on 21-May-2004 07:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (T_Bone):
>Who cares? Leave the guy alone already.

Wasn't bothering anyone. :)

>Amiga Inc. are irrelevant anyway.

Nah. Amiga IS the successor to Microsoft's empire. Do you seriously think it has survived this long NOT to be? Hey, there are no accidents in Nature, and I know the signs in the heavens very well.

Truth be told, it doesn't matter who leads it--and it's not going to happen until they put out a 64-Bit OS and are runnong on AMD64-based motherboards, and fighting and challenging Microsoft head-on, despite naysayers.

Apple is already rising. It, too, is Capricorn.

Pepsi vs. Coke. Get with the program already ;-) Slacker Amigans. Rise to the feast. Haha.

But hey, if you don't want to wait, I highly suggest: SuSE Linux, with WINE and some emulators (UAE, AmigaForever)...Catweasel, even (PCI, not ISA, of course). You can do all that in 64-Bit NOW.

As for Amiga, they're going to have to get the OS back. All in-house. And even perhaps reconsider hardware.

--EyeAm
"Mirror mirror, on the wall, who's like Apple most of all?"
Steve Jobs gets it. Funny that, he even listens to suggestions.
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 19 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by EyeAm on 21-May-2004 07:50 GMT
"There's No Such Thing As Death"
© Copyright 1999 by Stephen Marc Fox.

Although a life was taken from me,
and no longer is it here;
It's understood from what I see
that useless is the tear.

A peculiar thing that I have learned,
or knew since my first breath:
That life can't die, for it's not Made--
That there's no such thing as death.

If you disbelieve, then think again
how energy can't die;
That it merely leaves what it once moved,
And the body was a lie.

The body is the cross to bear,
as enlightened souls all know;
And the spirit's born inside of there
where it can live and grow.

But the spirit's made, the body's made,
and all these things must end;
For, return it will--the energy
from whence it came, my friend.

Released it is, to fly up free
To be reborn again, maybe
But one thing is for certain here:

There's no such thing as death.
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 20 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-May-2004 08:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Mikey C):
> For your sake Eyeam, I hope there isn't a god.

> Cos if there is, one day you are gonna have to account for your callous behaviour.

Ah c'mon, bullshit. If there's a god deserving this title, then he'll punish the bigots and hypocrites first.

- Oppressor
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 21 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 21-May-2004 08:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (EyeAm):
> Nah. Amiga IS the successor to Microsoft's empire. Do you seriously think it has survived this long NOT to be?

Newsflash: Amiga Inc do not own AmigaOS.

Amiga Inc is totally irrelevant to AmigaOS. the cord has been tied into a knot and cut.
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 22 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Ferry on 21-May-2004 09:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (EyeAm):
"El cementerio está cerca
de donde tú y yo dormimos,
entre nopales azules;
pitas azules y niños
que gritan vívidamente
si un muerto nubla el camino.
De aquí al cementerio, todo
es azul, dorado, límpido.
Cuatro pasos, y los muertos.
Cuatro pasos, y los vivos.
Límpido, azul y dorado,
se hace allí remoto el hijo."

Miguel Hernández, to his dead son.
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 23 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Ferry on 21-May-2004 09:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Ferry):
Quick'n dirty translation:

"The cemetery is near
where you and I sleep,
among blue chollas;
blue agaves and children
that shout vividly
if a dead person clouds the road.
From here to cemetery, all
is blue, golden, limpid.
Four steps, and the dead.
Four steps, and the living.
Limpid, blue and golden,
it is done there remote the son.
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 24 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by EyeAm on 21-May-2004 09:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (T_Bone):
>Newsflash: Amiga Inc do not own AmigaOS.

Currently, that may be so.

>Amiga Inc is totally irrelevant to AmigaOS. the cord has been tied into
>a knot and cut.

Heh. I've seen KMOS' chart. :-) It won't last.

Amiga OS goes back to Amiga, Inc. Mark my words. (this includes any instance of a company morphing into Amiga, Inc., in any way, shape or form).

--EyeAm
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 25 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 21-May-2004 10:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (EyeAm):
You really are an inhumane asshole.
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 26 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 21-May-2004 10:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Anonymous):
Except if the god happens to be omnipotent, then he could probably squeeze EyeAm into his schedule, seeing as taking his wrath out on those other fellars wouldn't take more than at most a couple of workdays.


:-)
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 27 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Graham_nli on 21-May-2004 11:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (EyeAm):
Inconsiderate retard.
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 28 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-May-2004 11:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Ole-Egil):
If no human being is without guilt except the saviour, then all us poor Amitards should be cooked to death. But this still depends on the particular christian tradition... couldn't we get away with purgatory for our ignorance? :-)

- Oppressor
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 29 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by EyeAm on 21-May-2004 11:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Why is that? I don't deserve to be attacked here.

So I don't have a problem with death. Big deal. I do, in fact, know a lot about it. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, I wrote Bill McEwen awhile back with a brief horoscope of what may be coming up for him and what he has been going through (at the time), and it included the possibility of death in the family. One of my special gifts is being able to see/know about impending deaths. I am clairvoyant/psychic in that regard, particularly; having accurately predicted or foreseen deaths many times. I once predicted the death of a friend's mother (whom I had never met) and by cancer. She died of cancer the following year. I told another friend to watch her husband for heart or spine problems and to have him go to the doctor if anything like that showed up--and six months later, he felt ill at work, and when they finally got to the hospital and he was opened up on the operating table, he died at 28 years old by the time they closed him back up (the doctor saying he had the heart of an eighty year old man). I could go on with these examples; even premonitions of my uncle's recent murder, and the location he died.

When I was about four, I attended my first funeral. Holding my dad's hand there in the heat of the churchyard cemetary, I wondered aloud to him why the people under the tent were crying. My father mistook my meaning and tried to explain that a loved one had died and they were sad. I didn't see any need for them to cry; but understood that they missed someone. Life's not extinguished, except for the physical shell. I know this much, and remember before my incarnation (birth).

I will no longer apologize for other people not understanding what I do.

Now, it's been brought to the forums that a family member of someone related to the Amiga community has died. To ignore that and talk about Amiga stuff, in its face, seems to get comments about being calloused. What are we to do--talk about it, and get the other comments about not talking about it? A moment of silence?

Death has just recently occured in my family, and this past Monday (the 17th) made it officially a homicide, not just homicide investigation. There is most probably the trial this summer, related to all that. And another long trip or two. It still doesn't change any interest in computers, or even Amiga (their success or failure, depending on their actions or the month). Life does go on.

This is May 21st. Yesterday was the first day I had heard about McEwen's daughter (May 6th, I believe, was the day someone announced it?).

I'm not one to ever really shrink from talking about anything--even death. I have an interest in death and horror and ressurrection and spirituality, and a lot of other topics most are too tame to touch. It's not even a brave thing anymore (courage requires fear to still be present); for me it is a casual thing. You know, some cultures actually celebrate the passing of someone, even if they are young. Other cultures believe the person never dies, especially if kept in memory. And some believe a death is the arrival of a time to grow for the survivors. The beliefs are varied--and no one is ever Politically Correct regarding them all. In a way, P.C. is a detriment to honesty and integrity. It's better to be who you are.

I cannot step into the viewpoint of Bill McEwen regarding the death of his daughter, any more than he can probably step into mine (at this time). I cannot help but to feel my view is far advance of his. At the same time, I do not have nor will ever have a daughter (or son, even), and will not know that loss. I'm not sure I would really experience the same kind of loss, though; I haven't in any of the 25+ people or pets or friends who have died since 1996. It's the way I'm built. It doesn't I'm cold, it doesn't mean I lack compassion, it just means I understand death (and in each of those cases, understood that it is the way it is). I appreciate those who are present and with whom I interact (of course, if it's a good interaction more than a bad one), but realize that when people move on (via death or whatever), it's just time to.

In the larger body of the universe, it is as much like the cells in our own body, birthing and dying and being replaced. The universe is still one.

I'll only accept 'callous' in the sense that I've grown accustomed to something that others have yet to; but not the other meaning that means something 'intentionally mean or cold'.

Now, I'll probably get flamed for this--but it'll mean you haven't taken the time to understand my view.

Regarding Amiga and its directions: I've been pissed off more than once, for good reason. EVEN at Bill McEwen. And yes, I've started my own 64-Bit OS, and yes I have the idea of it running Amiga programs (now). And yes I still think somehow Amiga will make it to the top. There has been a lot of frustration, and I have to take the side of no-support for them right now, and haven't considered myself an 'Amigan' since April of 2001 (directly because of being lied to by Amiga / Bill / Fleecy / Randy).

I feel that those who are afraid to work with those who tell the truth...have some explaining to do, with the first answer pointing to WHY? But I don't think I'll ever know, beyond it just being the way it happens to be.

The Amiga community, and the efforts in it, have been BUTCHERED. On purpose, or not, I don't know. Maybe some of both (sabotage and cicumstance).

You really have one last chance, you know: When OS 4.0 comes out, it best be broadcast from here to the coldest hole in antarctica.

--EyeAm
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 30 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 21-May-2004 12:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (EyeAm):
You might have no problem talking about death but that does not make it a less
sad event. I have no trouble talking about it either but anyone who experiences
a death of a close person deserves being left alone to get over it. Especially
if it's the death of a child.
Leave him alone.
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 31 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 21-May-2004 12:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (EyeAm):
And no, I'm not a fan of him. That does not make this even less sad event though.
And talking about the truth, you had been talking as if everyone here lives in
a hole some time ago. Most of us are PC users as well as Amiga or Pegasos users.
The release of AmigaOS4 will be a happy event, even while I'm a MorphOS user.
What happened to Bill McEwen? : Comment 32 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by EyeAm on 21-May-2004 12:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
You keep saying that, but where have I bothered him? :)

And Amiga OS 4.0 will be a happy event *for those who can use it* (limited to those with classic Amiga machines that have PPC cards, and the fewer AmigaOne machines that will be sold to people unwittingly buying into a severely restrictive licensing scheme).

--EyeAm
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