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[Forum] When will AmigaOS4 and AmigaOne be released?ANN.lu
Posted on 11-Jun-2004 02:44 GMT by Anonymous28 comments
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Old question, I know, but is there anything new about when AmigaOS4 and the AmigaOne be officially released, now that AmigaOS4 prerelease has been made available to (A1 owning) people? We've all waited long enough :)
When will AmigaOS4 and AmigaOne be released? : Comment 1 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Toner on 11-Jun-2004 00:48 GMT
AmigaOne was released some time ago and has been commercialy available for a long time. Check your favorite dealer if they have any in stock, or look up other dealers at http://www.eyetech.co.uk/ under the "dealers" link near the top of the page.

AmigaOS4 final release still seems to carry the "when its done" release date.
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Posted by Darth_X on 11-Jun-2004 01:40 GMT
2 more years? ;)
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Posted by Bill on 11-Jun-2004 02:14 GMT
My guess would be September 2004.
When will AmigaOS4 and AmigaOne be released? : Comment 4 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by gary_c on 11-Jun-2004 02:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Bill):
I think the big production approach to the pre-release means the next CD mailout won't happen for quite a while, especially since upgrade downloads are promised. I wouldn't expect the Official Release before 2005. This is just a guess, though, and just for fun.

-- gary_c
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Posted by Kronos on 11-Jun-2004 04:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Bill Toner):
No, thats "7 weeks after it's done" ......
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Posted by priest on 11-Jun-2004 05:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Bill Toner):
"AmigaOne was released some time ago and has been commercialy available for a long time."

It seems that it is not released for normall users... according to Ben Hermans it's for developers ... especially if one's interest is in AOS and not in PPC Linux...

A little bit like Pegasos & MOS is for "advanced users"....


For the final release date of AOS4 for A1 ... Q4/2004 might be doable. Perhaps CSPPC version appears in Q3/2004 and BPPC version in 2Q/2005.

btw. what is the latest estimated release date for MOS1.5?
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Posted by Don Cox on 11-Jun-2004 05:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Bill):
"My guess would be September 2004."

That seems about right, but they can decide at any time to draw a line and say "This counts as version 4.0"

So long as major updates are made available, there is no hurry. The important thing is that the coding should progress, and fill in the major gaps like Unicode support, not that the packaging should have some arbitrary number on it.

I think those hard-working guys will go on working, for which we should all be grateful.
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Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jun-2004 05:20 GMT
"when its done"
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Posted by Amon_Re on 11-Jun-2004 05:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Don Cox):
Amen to that Don :)
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Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jun-2004 05:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Bill Toner):
The "Amiga One" concept is a product made of two components, HW and OS.
But to be able to sell the Hardware even though the OS was not ready
they called it "early bird", and OS4 later got the prefix "developers
pre-release".

And to answer the main post - OS4 pre-release has NOT been made
available to all customers yet, only a few.
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Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jun-2004 05:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (gary_c):
???

Download? But people don't have Internet, that was the reason behind
the "big CD production approach"!
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Posted by Bobson on 11-Jun-2004 06:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Anonymous):
No, it wasn't because most people do not have internet, but because not everyone is on broadband. They didn't want to create a two level OS4 Pre-release, with one containing everything on CD and the other containing the bare minimum for download.

I imagine the updates will consume much less space, thus negating the dial up vs broadband issues.
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Posted by gary_c on 11-Jun-2004 06:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Anonymous):
I'm just repeating what one of the Hyperion guys said. I think the difference is that the full pre-release ISO would be pretty big; the upgrade patches would be a lot smaller.

-- gary_c
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Posted by reflect on 11-Jun-2004 08:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
Seems like the bulk users got theirs today, the local forums on various amiga sites are teeming with posts about people getting their CDs.
Eyetech confirmed that they now will be shipping CDs to their customers now.
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Posted by Elwood on 11-Jun-2004 08:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (gary_c):
The ISO was more than 50MBs...
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Posted by Jupp3 on 11-Jun-2004 09:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Anonymous):
>Download? But people don't have Internet, that was the reason behind
the "big CD production approach"!
Of course not everyone has internet, but those who don't have, could always ask their reseller nicely, if they could supply the updates on CDr for media cost...
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Posted by Eva on 11-Jun-2004 12:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (priest):
A little bit like Pegasos & MOS is for "advanced users"....
________

Not at all.
I'm able to use Mos, so, coz my brain is little sand limited, Mos is usable for all ppl in the world.

Anyway Aos4 will be out in a form simialr to Mos 1.4 in 2006 (if there will be no delay)
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Posted by Kjetil on 11-Jun-2004 13:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Eva):
2006 LOL....
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Posted by Leki on 11-Jun-2004 13:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Eva):
eva yup your head is definitely full of just sand
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Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jun-2004 14:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
Wrong. OS4 prerelease is available to ALL AmigaOne owners, not just few.
If Amiga dealers are slow sendinfgthose cds to their customers it is not Hyperions fault or something like that.

OS4 prerelease is available to all, but it has not reached all customers yet.
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Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jun-2004 14:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (reflect):
And eg. KDH was shipping many days ago already. Eyetech is just one dealer when we talk about OS4 pre-release.
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Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jun-2004 23:07 GMT
When hell freezes over. Lesson number one learned from the Snoqualmie thugs: Give people a (red-white) package to play with, and it keeps them in good confidence while a new plot may be cooked. With pressed CDs and a colorful package Hyperium has allocated itself a virtually unlimited amount of time. Nevermind. While it's purely at Hyperium's disposal what will be called alpha, beta, release, 4.1, 4.2, 5.0 etc., it'll definitely be mature enough to further injure this community. Ambiguity is the key.

- Oppressor
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Posted by Atheist2 on 12-Jun-2004 06:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Anonymous):
That's a really vindictive statement there.

But the due course of time will reveal all (let's hope).



AmigaOne! Pre-AOS4.0! T-minus 100 days????
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Posted by Anonymous on 12-Jun-2004 06:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Anonymous):
WRONG, the pre-release of OS4 is NOT out to all A1 earlybird owners,
not even as I speak now! Many dealers got the CDs only the other day
(they were obviously NOT sent out when Hyperion posted that they
were, perhaps to a FEW dealers, but certainly NOT to everyone). The
dealers are making a big effort to support the A1 and the OS4 and you
should not blame them for either Eyetechs hardware selection and
licensing/production methods (which sets the price) nor Hyperions
grand scale CD production ideas and distribution policies. People has
been waiting for years, and they still have not got it, and this is
NOT because of the dealers are lazy or slow or anything like that at
all. Its not the dealers that makes these kinds of decisions.
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Posted by Anonymous on 12-Jun-2004 11:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Atheist2):
My apologies for being vindictive and misspelling Hyperion. How much goodwill would you expect from people who lost work and investment due to haphazard turnabouts, endless delays, and seizure of the Amiga brand? OS4 fans could be celebrating Ralph Schmidt as their hero/savior for years now, wasn't there this religious zealotry utilized by Fleecy and his accomplices.

"When it's done" can never be argued, "time will tell" can never be dissented, and a "developer preview" can hardly be accused of being incomplete or faulty. It's always the same pattern. While something not in existance can't be criticized, the prospect of something is sufficient to keep people together and in excitement. If nothing else, it keeps them from buying a different product, or leaving the platform altogether.

Aren't you the least bit suspicious regarding a pressed CD and printed cover after so many years of development? Hyperion have opened themselves a giant possible exit from future developments. Let's see if they are going to take it -- only time will tell, as usual. :-)

- Oppressor
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Posted by Don Cox on 12-Jun-2004 16:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
"Eyetech is just one dealer when we talk about OS4 pre-release."

Eyetech have mailed out the CDs to all their customers.
When will AmigaOS4 and AmigaOne be released? : Comment 27 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Alan Anthony on 12-Jun-2004 17:14 GMT
Eyetech have mailed the CD to all their "Earlybird" customers. The people that purchased developer boards before the Earlybird offer have to wait a while longer untill they find out if/when they get one.
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Posted by brickhaven on 12-Jun-2004 18:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Anonymous):
Years have nothing to do with it. It all comes down to the flow
of money to pay xxx number of man-hours of programming. If you
want it for free, go linux, but pay the balance in learning-time
deducted from your free time. The advantages of OS4 and MorphOS
over windows and linux, are that you can use a computer to do
what you want, without MS b.s. or the linux README/FAQ blues. If I had
to choose, I would rather learn Linux than suffer windoze, but the
Amiga way is better, red, blue, or emulated...we are lucky to have
so many choices, but without paying for the programmers man-hours,
the choices would be fewer and farther between. The many unpredictable
failures, both past and future should be learning opportunities for
all in the business, but to often are used as cannon fodder for
futile flame wars that waste valuable time, talent, and energy.

CHEERS for all-ways Amiga!

8')
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