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[Rant] Thanks to everyone involved...ANN.lu
Posted on 20-Jun-2004 22:37 GMT by OS4lem49 comments
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With this mail I want to thank everyone (Eyetech, Hyperion, AmigaOS developer team and all the volunteers) involved into the AmigaOne and OS4 for keeping up the good old Amiga spirit and showing us the future for Amiga. Big thanks to all of you who you spent all the years onto the Amiga and finally found a new real path for the Amiga. For me as user AmigaOne and OS4 is everything that I want to see a modern Amiga should be. Quite modern and affordable Hardware, a nice clean and fast Operating System and all the developers and 3rd party people heavily supporting it. Without you the Amiga would still be a dead thing but with all you people we are happy to look forward into a nice future. Thanks again.
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Posted by Anonymous (80.130.25.51) on 20-Jun-2004 20:46 GMT
No word about KMOS ? Shame on you !
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Posted by XraalE (82.40.24.92) on 20-Jun-2004 22:03 GMT
Uhm, now that's just plain dumb. Show a little originality when trolling, please? Whoever posted this news item must be either 8 years old, or so socially deprived / mentally handicapped that the comeback to every insult he gets is "I know you are, but what am I?" Ooh, burn.

And it doesn't even WORK mirrored like this. You're insulting your own side, for christ's sake! For instance:

- Quite modern and affordable Hardware,

LOL!

-a nice clean and fast Operating System

*giggle*

- Without you the Amiga would still be a dead thing but with all you people we are happy to look forward into a nice future.

Hehe...
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Posted by Cheesegrate (203.173.56.240) on 21-Jun-2004 01:15 GMT
>Quite modern and affordable Hardware,
Are you joking??? ;)

>all the developers and 3rd party people heavily supporting it.
Are you joking? ;) most amiga devs are using mos.

> Without you the Amiga would still be a dead thing
ehh? mos was the thing that scared fleecy and mcewan into announcing os4..
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Posted by the man in the shadows (64.216.141.56) on 21-Jun-2004 01:20 GMT
You know... you can add any OS and correlating company name and the "thank you" bit still sounds cheesy. I thought the first one should have died on the "forum" cross in the first place... I mean, you don't go to a news site and see a "thank you" or "let me polish your knob" postings as news; it's just unheard of. Anyway, I'm going to go back to sleep and learn more about programming while the knuckleheads of all camps figure "it" out.

Wake me when something important happens.
--
Kent
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Posted by Amon_Re (Registered user) on 21-Jun-2004 09:59 GMT
Deja Vu
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Posted by Amon_Re (Registered user) on 21-Jun-2004 10:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (XraalE):
For gods sake grow up Kenny.
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Posted by ikir (Registered user) on 21-Jun-2004 11:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (XraalE):
"? Whoever posted this news item must be either 8 years old, or so socially deprived / mentally handicapped"

Like you? :-O You probably don't know anything about A1 and OS4.

These troll thread are not good for the comunity (i mean all these tahnks to...). C'mon grow up and chose a platfrom without salying the others. OS4, MOS or AROS.. don't flame.

Peace :-)
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Posted by Anonymous (195.148.82.17) on 21-Jun-2004 12:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Cheesegrate):
"Are you joking? ;) most amiga devs are using mos. "

I would not be so sure.
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Posted by Megol (130.240.196.54) on 21-Jun-2004 12:45 GMT
Lame? LAME!
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Posted by brotheris (213.226.136.231) on 21-Jun-2004 13:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (ikir):
You probably don't know anything about A1 and OS4.

But he can read that emulated mpega.library can't play mp3 in full quality on that G4 CPU.

More flames, it was to quiet here ;-)
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Posted by Dave (212.175.234.10) on 21-Jun-2004 13:44 GMT
> Quite modern and affordable Hardware

$1000 for a piece of shit antique Teron board is hardly affordable.
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Posted by Anonymous (195.148.82.17) on 21-Jun-2004 13:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Dave):
Yes it is. If you are poor then it's your problem :)
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Posted by Anonymous (195.148.82.17) on 21-Jun-2004 13:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (brotheris):
Why should you use emulated mpega.library when there is native version too ? :) ok it's not available to pre-release users yet but it sure exists.
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Posted by Anonymous (195.148.82.17) on 21-Jun-2004 13:53 GMT
No who are worse blue or red trols ? Well I don't see red trolls polluting that equal MOS thread as bad as blue guys do here.. It seems to me that most fanatic part of this community is now in the blue camp.
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Posted by Peter Gordon (212.104.156.42) on 21-Jun-2004 13:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Anonymous):
It is available to everyone at os4depot.net, and it uses very little CPU time. It is now officially a non-issue.
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Posted by brotheris (213.226.136.231) on 21-Jun-2004 14:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Anonymous):
But this doesn't eliminate a problem of slow emulation, does it ?

@14
both are fun and create traffic.
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Posted by XraalE (82.40.24.92) on 21-Jun-2004 14:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (ikir):
>Like you? :-O You probably don't know anything about A1 and OS4.

Ikir, I've been around since long before the A1 was even an idea, and watched its progress for years. I certainly seem to know more than you judged by your typical "OS4 soooooooooooon!!! :D:D:D" rhetoric.
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Posted by Kjetil (80.212.194.78) on 21-Jun-2004 14:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (brotheris):
If you do not emulate some thing then you do not emulate same thing...
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Posted by Anonymous (194.86.94.42) on 21-Jun-2004 14:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (brotheris):
There is no JIT emulation in the pre-release. Sure interpreted emulation is much slower, just try it with UAE and PC, you need quite fast PC if you want to play mp3 at full rate under interpreted m68k emulation.
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Posted by Anonymous (62.20.228.152) on 21-Jun-2004 14:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Anonymous):
>There is no JIT emulation in the pre-release. Sure interpreted emulation is >much slower, just try it with UAE and PC, you need quite fast PC if you want >to play mp3 at full rate under interpreted m68k emulation.

There is a OS4 PPC native MP3 (mpega.library) library available!
GUIs etc. run fine on emulation
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Posted by Anonymous (194.86.94.42) on 21-Jun-2004 14:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Anonymous):
That's great!! I did not know that native mpega.library was already released.
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Posted by fuskoSCN (81.191.27.224) on 21-Jun-2004 14:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (XraalE):
Hi there :)

I very seldom post on ANN, but this comment amused me :)

Surely most of the current amiga-owners have been around since the A1 was still on paper, and all of us have certainly wathced the progress the last few years... i guess that doesn't make you that specieal after all :)

Hence I find it kind of strange that you because of this claim know more about os4 than ikir - after all...Ikir has got os4-pre installed on his amigaONE :)

best regards
fuskoSCN
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Posted by brotheris (213.226.136.231) on 21-Jun-2004 14:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Kjetil):
What ?

@19

There is no JIT emulation in the pre-release

Yes, I know, but having speed of emulated ~ 68040/25-40 MHz on modern G4 is still a joke in my mind.

you need quite fast PC if you want to play mp3 at full rate under interpreted m68k emulation

But CPU in A1 is fast.

Maybe there are other bottlenecks ? 8-)
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Posted by Darth_X (Registered user) on 21-Jun-2004 15:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
liar!
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Posted by XraalE (82.40.24.92) on 21-Jun-2004 16:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (fuskoSCN):
I didn't say I knew more about OS4 than Ikir. I said I knew more about the A1: especially its dubious history.
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Posted by Anonymous (203.195.105.34) on 21-Jun-2004 16:36 GMT
Thanks.
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Posted by Kjetil (80.212.194.78) on 21-Jun-2004 17:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (brotheris):
68k is history.... :o)
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Posted by brotheris (213.226.136.231) on 21-Jun-2004 17:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Kjetil):
Yes, remove 68k emulation.
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Posted by Amon_Re (Registered user) on 21-Jun-2004 17:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (brotheris):
No it doesn't, further finetuning of the OS however, probably will solve it.
But then again, if every 68k app that runs poorly gets ported to PPC, that too would be good (or even better)
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Posted by Amon_Re (Registered user) on 21-Jun-2004 17:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (XraalE):
But his point is valid, you're a sad excuse for a person
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Posted by Amon_Re (Registered user) on 21-Jun-2004 18:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (XraalE):
And i know things you couldn't possibly know about the A1/AOS4 too, gee, i must be special now.

</sarcasm>
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Posted by brotheris (213.226.136.231) on 21-Jun-2004 18:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Amon_Re):
But then again, if every 68k app that runs poorly gets ported to PPC, that too would be good (or even better)

Agreed, maybe this will force creation of replacements. Now you only need developers.
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Posted by XraalE (82.40.24.92) on 21-Jun-2004 19:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Amon_Re):
You're hardly one to talk about the calibre of postings, Amon.
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Posted by IanS (Registered user) on 21-Jun-2004 19:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (XraalE):
Ironically, nor are you Gru.
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Posted by SlimJim (Registered user) on 21-Jun-2004 19:46 GMT
Well, I am very happy with AmigaOS4 as my Amiga platform of choice.


But these threads are still cheesy as hell ... :-)
.
SlimJim
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Posted by cheesegrate (203.217.83.236) on 21-Jun-2004 21:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (SlimJim):
>But these threads are still cheesy as hell ... :-)
u rang? ;)
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Posted by Reactionary (12.223.69.211) on 21-Jun-2004 21:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Dave):
I do believe the trolls are concerned that, now that the Amiga's been released, their beloved platform will simply die...

So they spew. What else can they do?
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Posted by XraalE (82.40.24.92) on 21-Jun-2004 22:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (IanS):
IanS, try again. I'm not Gru.
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Posted by Amon_Re (Registered user) on 22-Jun-2004 05:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (XraalE):
Kenny, grow up
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Posted by Amon_Re (Registered user) on 22-Jun-2004 05:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Reactionary):
The wankers trolling here probably don't even use MOS/AOS, they're here to stirr shit because they derive pleasure from it.
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Posted by Jamie_S (217.43.146.109) on 22-Jun-2004 11:34 GMT
So many people seem to expect miracles of small companies in what is a very difficult marketplace.
Rather than endlessly moaning about *what* they have achieved, people should be grateful for *what* has been achieved, indeed that anything has been achieved at all in the circumstances.
I would say what has been achieved is very impressive.
The A1 is *relatively* expensive compared to PC hardware. Thats because it has to be produced in such small quantities. Making such a comparison is unrealistic.
When compared to classic hardware the jump-up in performance is huge. These machines make a good base for a new platform.
OS4 looks *stunning* IMHO. And I'm sure it will be as much of a pleasure to work with as the classic OS. Just much faster on A1 hardware :-D...
Like Ikir says, Peace, people :-)
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Posted by XraalE (82.40.24.92) on 22-Jun-2004 12:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Amon_Re):
Amon, shut up. And I mean this seriously. Too long has ANN being had your inane slobbering squirted all over it. Of all your posts I've seen, none has actually added anything to a thread. You're wearing out keyboards to write huge wads of nothing.
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Posted by XraalE (82.40.24.92) on 22-Jun-2004 12:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Reactionary):
Nah, it's probably payback for the enormous crapflooding red trolls did when MorphOS was released in a state similar to OS4's current state, about 2 years ago.
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Posted by Amon_Re (Registered user) on 22-Jun-2004 17:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (XraalE):
Kenny, do you know the expression "the pot is calling the kettle black"?
You are pathetic, and i MEAN it, you're sprouting shit about a product you know shit about, you call people incompetent whom you've never met, and when people ask you questions you evade the awnser.

Atleast i'm consistent in my behaviour, online & offline, and i do every effort to actually aid the 'cause' out there on the field, and atleast i've got the decency of actually respecting the developers & designers behind MOS, the only sad fucks whom don't get my support are wankers like BBRV & the management @Ainc.

Now get the fuck out of my face loser.
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Posted by Amon_Re (Registered user) on 22-Jun-2004 17:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (XraalE):
If that were so i'd be even more pittyfull. Most of the idiots here just post here with the intent on causing shit, you included.

Only few of those morons actually still use the products they "defend".
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Posted by Anonymous Orc (62.254.0.34) on 22-Jun-2004 19:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (brotheris):
fortunately there are PLENTY of OS4 developers 8-)
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Posted by Hot Rod (217.209.114.114) on 24-Jun-2004 07:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (brotheris):
You don't know what you're talking about. Offcourse I can play MP3's at full
quality under emulation.

What? It doesn't work in MOS with JIT?! OMG! Or is it just so that you don't
have a native version :-O
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Posted by Anonymous (65.207.49.69) on 24-Jun-2004 09:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Hot Rod):
troll.
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Posted by Hot Rod (81.230.60.230) on 24-Jun-2004 15:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Anonymous):
Absolutely but I *can* play MP3's at full quality using the libmad mpega.library (the 68k-version). I tried that soon after AOS 4 was installed wich was before the native version was released. Now I use the native offcourse.
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