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Posted on 30-Jun-2004 13:12 GMT by Richard27 comments
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I just wonder. Where is Amiga ? Do they still have an operating business ? Are they in bankruptcy ? Not a single news item since 16th of march when KMOS stepped in. Where are everyone ? Bill McEwen ? Fleecy ? I donīt read every single news item here but I have always followed the progress of the owners of Amiga. And what are KMOS doing ? There was an interview with the CTO some months ago when he said they would bring up a website soon I believe. Silence everywhere and only rumours about the ongoing legal processes. I donīt know. Can someone shed some lights ? /Richard S
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Posted by Don Cox on 30-Jun-2004 11:51 GMT
We would have heard if Amiga Inc had gone into bankruptcy. They don't appear to be actively trading, but they could sit back and simply wait for royalty fees on the brand name to pour in.

It is a safe bet that all the main people involved have day jobs.

It would be interesting to know whether Ben Hermanns has any connection with Hyperion or AmigaOS now.

All of these people have lost any credibility they might have had. Only actual hardware you can hold in your own hand and an actual CD with an actual OS on it count. Announcements of future plans can be disregarded, or enjoyed for entertainment value.
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Posted by JoannaK on 30-Jun-2004 12:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Don Cox):
Agree.. Let them be, they have done enough to harm Amiga name and still remaining active users with lies, deception and empty promices. Less heard from them, better.
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Posted by Anonymous on 30-Jun-2004 12:36 GMT
Amiga is in the future and looking back on us. That's why we can't see them! Amiga - back in the future! LOL!
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Posted by MIKE on 30-Jun-2004 14:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Don Cox):
Don, does it matter what they are doing these days? I already like them better, without Hermans posting nonsense all over, without McEwen and Fleecy around, the professionalism has gone up 10 fold.
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Posted by Don Cox on 30-Jun-2004 14:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (MIKE):
Well, Ben is still posting predictions on Amigaworld.net, and there are people believing him.

I don't think he's evil or anything, but I would not personally consider his predictions to have any value whatever.

Yes, it is an improvement to not have the representatives of Amiga Inc, Genesi, Hyperion, etc warring on the forums.
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Posted by Amon_Re on 30-Jun-2004 16:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (MIKE):
Same goes for BBRV, they vanished from the Earth (or atleast from France)
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Posted by XraalE on 30-Jun-2004 19:14 GMT
Oh, forget Amiga Inc. They were out of it since the first day of 2002. Anyone who still supports them in any way must seriously have a screw loose.

More relevant questions would be: who are KMOS, why do KMOS exist, and why did KMOS suspiciously only appear to move OS4 off the hands of Amiga Inc in the wake of the Thendic lawsuit?

If AInc screwed the community good and proper, isn't it prudent to make sure the same doesn't happen with KMOS?
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Posted by Targhan on 30-Jun-2004 20:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Amon_Re):
BBRV disappeared?

http://www.pegasosppc.com/image.php?id=1294
Really?

And from France?
http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/WAspad/UnTexteDeJorf?numjo=PREX0407342D

Check the dates...;-)
You need to catch up to the times!
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Posted by 3seas on 30-Jun-2004 20:28 GMT
hey, Rich Woods forgot to pay rent....

Isn't that more interesting?
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Posted by Darth_X on 30-Jun-2004 21:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Amon_Re):
Ryoga disappears when p-chan is around... and Akane still hasn't clued in. ;)
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Posted by Eva on 01-Jul-2004 04:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Amon_Re):
Posted by Amon_Re (Registered user) on 30-Jun-2004 18:44:27
In Reply to Comment 4 (MIKE):
Same goes for BBRV, they vanished from the Earth (or atleast from France)
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Hi AMon, good troll, before open your mouth it's better if you connect your brain (if you have got a spare one):

http://www.pegasosppc.com/gallery.php?id=109

http://www.genesi.lu/press.php?date=20040607

http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/WAspad/UnTexteDeJorf?numjo=PREX0407342D

Plus June meeting with various developers, including Pagestrem coders: Pagestream 5 Light will be a FREE Superbundle software.
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Posted by priest on 01-Jul-2004 04:47 GMT
a shock, AmigaDE / AmigaAnywhere is ALIVE: http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1556
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Posted by hooligan/dcs on 01-Jul-2004 05:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (priest):
Alive? It's barely breathing ;)
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Posted by Elwood on 01-Jul-2004 05:49 GMT
I don't care. Amiga Inc don't work on AmigaOS so I don't care :-)
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Posted by Chris Perver on 01-Jul-2004 05:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
Amiga is in the hearts of those who believed in them. But that's about the only place.
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Posted by Remco Komduur on 01-Jul-2004 05:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Don Cox):
I can also say that about Bill Buck. Without his crap spewing around things have become much calmer and more proffesional.

Now, finally, people that program for either AmigaOS or MorphOS have started working together.
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Posted by priest on 01-Jul-2004 06:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Chris Perver):
"Amiga is in the hearts of those who believed in them."

AmigaInc is basicly at www.amiga.com.
Amiga is in the heart of the community.
AmigaOS4.0 is in beta state.

And seeing+hearing is believing in Amiga's case.
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Posted by John Block on 01-Jul-2004 09:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (priest):
Amiga timed out :(
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Posted by pixie on 01-Jul-2004 13:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Eva):
You just can't get away from your pet hate now can you!? ;) It does no good for your health you know... ;b
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Posted by Amon_Re on 02-Jul-2004 08:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Targhan):
The first pic is from that event in Vegas(?) with motorola, the second one doesn't prove he's been in France to pick it up :)

Atleast it's silent lately without all them CEO's & whatnot running rampant on the forums.

What i'm dying to know however is what happened to the lawsuit
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Posted by Amon_Re on 02-Jul-2004 08:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Eva):
Eva, those are pictures, not forum posts, i can show you pictures of Ben Hermans & Alan too, still doesn't mean they're posting all over the forums.
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Posted by Anonymous on 02-Jul-2004 12:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Amon_Re):
Amon, you can't run a company posting and arguing on forums. They have much more important to do to create the future of alternative computer :)
T
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Posted by James Carroll on 03-Jul-2004 04:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Amon_Re):
eva still needs a fuck.
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Posted by Darth_X on 03-Jul-2004 13:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Amon_Re):
@Amon_Re

Show me pictures of Ben Hermans & Alan working with Freescale to build a better computer market! ;)
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Posted by John Block on 03-Jul-2004 15:22 GMT
Follow the news through regular news sites and you will see they are running a refuge for battered women and a successful race horse.
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Posted by 3seas on 04-Jul-2004 13:08 GMT
Those who understand what is evolving in regards to computer use and OS development won't have much concern for proprietary systems, especially if such systems have not a foothold in the market already.

It is time to start thinking in terms of how to do it better than Windows, which Linux and FOSS in general have done or are doing, and then of course how to do it better than these Linux and Uni* type solutions.

I think the next step in "doing it better" is that of simplifying use, or removing complexity that the user really need not have to deal with. Linux has alot of overhead that a single user system need not have. And considering OSs are moving in teh direction of "Live" media....

The Amiga computer concepts might be such a direction, but the proprietary flavor has most certainly proven to be a failure, even in just emulation (Amithlon).

Of course there is always the getting there from another direction, such as simplification in the freeBSD line as found in DragonlyBSD... So perhaps even associations to the "Amiga" name even in the since of "Amiga like" may not apply in what eventually happens.

And that is something to perhaps be determined by... the sum of the so called Amiga community (includng the anti-amiga amiga part) as to how well support is given to that which has the best chance of influencing what eventually happens.
Where is Amiga ? : Comment 27 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by JKD on 05-Jul-2004 15:03 GMT
Why not come to Amiwest and find out from Garry Hare? (spelling?)

Amiwest 2004 Press Release 5

Interesting guest....wonder if he has anything to say that is worth listening to....

Steve
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