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[Forum] [forum] OS4 video by crisotANN.lu
Posted on 11-Jul-2004 14:50 GMT by Wankerraffalellelala164 comments
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Just in case you didn't noticed:: 'Crisot' (the same guy who released the 'pegasos in the toilet' video some time ago, about we laught a lot) released a video which shows current status of OS4 (please check the previous posting here on ann.lu). I have watched this video now again and again and it's normal to come to the conclusion that it's faked. No, not the content, but the speed. The framerate is not correct/realtime, it was made faster. You can spot this easily by watching the mouse movements of the user for example.

Is OS4 so bad that's required to release a video which is 'faked' in such way? I don't think so. And yes, I agree that the Prerelease isn't "the fast thing" i expected to get for my A1.

It makes me a little bit sick how some users are operate to spread 'propaganda'. Isn't it bad enough already that OS4 is so much behind the competition in same market. Now MorphOS users laugh at me for beeing a loyal amiga user. :-\ I'm already happy with the Prerelease, but I hope thing will become a lot faster, but such video is useless.

This is a request to all: please keep such stuff out of this community. When you release a video then release a video which shows true facts. It's from absolutly no use to 'lie' by publishing false information. In the end the normal user is the only stupid.

Crisot, release a proper version of your video to stop this! Thanks. @kemp:
Sorry for posting over anonymizer, but i have reasons to keep my IP/ identity secret for now. Thanks for your understanding. But I feelt it is required to bring this to public discussion. :\
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 101 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 12-Jul-2004 06:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 86 (Christophe Decanini):
Dunno. I can tell you that Quake OS4 runs fast in 800x600. Its perfectly smooth and never slows down or anything.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 102 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 12-Jul-2004 06:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 100 (hmmm....):
I'd say a twat out to stir shit, like what your doing
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 103 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by SLayeRDK on 12-Jul-2004 06:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 100 (hmmm....):
One of those thats harbors old hate because of what has happened to the amiga?, you all seem to think that any anti Amiga INC. people is pro Mos or Pro Aros, i can only say what about all those embittered by the many failures and bad promises, they are still around spreading their bitterness.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 104 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 12-Jul-2004 06:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 81 (Johan Rönnblom):
> Anyway, don't know what got you in such bad mood, a day when not only
one but *two* negative claims about OS4 have been debunked, one would
think you'd be happy?

Cause one knows you will continue your bullshit next time. Cause you know it will do a little damage every time.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 105 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by hmmm.... on 12-Jul-2004 06:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 102 (Amon_Re):
I'm not 'stirring shit', I see a fairly serious accusation leveled at a dedicated group of people, which has been proved to be false. Pretty much anywhere in the world one is allowed to confront their accuser, yet this particular individual wants to sit in the shadows and shout accusations. In fact, he's so focused on not being identified that he used an anonymyser when trying to get this posted as a news item, contrary to ann's posting rules. On top of that he had the temerity to ask that the rules be bent just for him (I'm surprised that Christian agreed). Damn right I want to know who he is.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 106 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 12-Jul-2004 07:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 105 (hmmm....):
I have to agree with you here. This poster deliberately spun this story as being so important that it had to be brought to our attention, plus he suggests that he is such an important insider that he cannot allow his IP to be made public (or have enough spare time to nip down to the nearest Cybercafe). No doubt he fears that at any moment several black KMOS/Amiga Inc/Hyperion/Eyetech combat helicopters could appear overhead and a platoon of heavily armed special operatives could descend upon him!!!

Blaitant trolling like this is expected from certain individuals, but the ones that have been participating in the latest attacks (and Amon-RE, you're NOT paranoid) at least display their IP's along side their ignorance and feebly disgusied agendas (and you know who you all are). ;-)

So, will the real BS spreader please step forward... Cheesegrate perhaps?
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 107 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 12-Jul-2004 07:12 GMT
"No doubt he fears that at any moment several black KMOS/Amiga Inc/Hyperion/Eyetech combat helicopters could appear overhead and a platoon of heavily armed special operatives could descend upon him!!!"

You meant RED helicopters :)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 108 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 12-Jul-2004 07:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 100 (hmmm....):
>Rich Woods (who seems to be avoiding the authorities, if the bunny is to be believed)

Really? How did I miss this? Any why wasn't this considered "news"?

Hey, Sammy, any chance of obtaining court papers on this and keeping us informed? :-)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 109 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 12-Jul-2004 07:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 107 (Emeric SH):
>You meant RED helicopters :)

LOL. Ooops!!! My mistake :-)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 110 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 12-Jul-2004 08:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 105 (hmmm....):
I'd like to know too, but then again, i'd also like to know who you are
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 111 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by sutro on 12-Jul-2004 10:03 GMT
Regarding the video, I still find it hard to believe that the speed is real, at least from what I see in my lame PeeCee at work. My reflexes are not bad and I certainly know rather well my current Workbench environment after using and configuring it for more than 10 years. Crisot's mouse movement and decision making are too good to be true (even if choices were random), especially since observing that icons and windows are not that well organised. Looks like (s)he is Matrix's Neo.

Nevertheless, even if the fps were boosted (intentionally or not), the estimated responsiveness and speed after normalisation would be still satisfactory for me. Fake or not, DMA or not, I don't pay that much attention to unofficial videos and posts these days. I am an Amiga user for too long; I can easily acknowledge that AmigaOS speed and PPC performance were never issues for common tasks. What we really need is applications. Development support, richer, well-documented and more versatile APIs are desperately needed. Amiga Inc. realised that 5 years ago and AmigaDE was in fact an interesting idea but they failed to deliver. Now, we are at the sad postion that the hardware must be sold in bunches first (even running linux) if we ever want any future development for the platform. Mini ITX boards and embedded devices seem our only chance if we want an Amiga for more than just retro computing.

The next five years are going to be interesting with M$ expected to lose some ground, Sun once again focusing on "Java Desktop" and the industry preparing for the big convergence where desktop PCs are finally replaced at home by more clever devices and are re-named "Workstations" for those few who want a machine for multimedia creativity or development. I'd love to see the Amiga platform and community playing a better role than just struggling for survival, pointlessly hanging around or trolling around. "Reunion" is the keyword.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 112 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 12-Jul-2004 10:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 111 (sutro):
"Crisot's mouse movement and decision making are too good to be true (even if choices were random)"

Look at this: http://www.clubbyte.com/pegasos/videos.htm

(more freakingly fast and accurate mouse handling ... and another freakingly fast OS)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 113 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 12-Jul-2004 11:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (Johan Rönnblom):
Well.. just play it back in 15fps and in 30fps and judge for
yourselves, after you've seen the os4-event video.. I think that makes
it rather obvious. Anyway, I think it was funny. :-)
__________

My God ... alea iacta est ...
Not only it's an accelerated video ... but also the accelerated video is SLOWER than MorphOS 1.4!
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 114 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 12-Jul-2004 11:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion (Registered user) on 11-Jul-2004 20:24:34
In Reply to Comment 49 (Fabio Alemagna):
The video is quite real
___________

"AmigaOS4 will be out in 2 months" (November 2001 - Ben Hermans)

Mr Herman you are trustable like a piece of cake.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 115 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 12-Jul-2004 11:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (Thomas Frieden):
Posted by Thomas Frieden (Registered user) on 11-Jul-2004 23:15:49
In Reply to Comment 49 (Fabio Alemagna):
> Mind you, this is NO proof that the video is NOT fake. I'm rather inclined to
> believe it is, judging by the comments in this thread by people that I deem
> trustworthy.

Like Eva ?
_____________

Nono Thomas, dear MrHermans employer, sure more than someone that, like you, declared that "In 2 months will do the new AOS 4"
Go in 2001 post and read you WISE and TRUSTABLE words.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 116 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 12-Jul-2004 11:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 113 (Eva):
See comments 68 & 74.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 117 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 12-Jul-2004 11:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 116 (priest):
and #71
"Well, I checked a few details in the old and new video, and now came
to the conclusion that the first one *IS* actually shown at correct
speed."
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 118 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 12-Jul-2004 11:42 GMT
We are in 2004 with an alpha release ... and ppl how Mr Herman and his employers continue to open their mouths ... but please!
Go doing your Aos4 coz 4 months will become 4 years in 2005!

These people are the hypocrisy flag.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 119 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by She never gets tired on 12-Jul-2004 11:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 114 (Eva):
it seems like another hot day in Australia. Too hot for Eva.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 120 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by sutro on 12-Jul-2004 11:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 112 (priest):
: Look at this: http://www.clubbyte.com/pegasos/videos.htm
(more freakingly fast and accurate mouse handling ... and another freakingly fast OS)


Well, no way can anyone move the mouse with such precision AND simultaneously type "Hello !!!" on a word processor (programs.mpg). I guess my video decoder is misbehaving again ... ;-)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 121 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 12-Jul-2004 11:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 118 (Eva):
Weehaw! Celebration day!

Bring da booze!
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 122 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 12-Jul-2004 12:04 GMT
After watching through these videos ( those non-flickering ones ) I think I start to feel sick.

It's either because things happen too fast or I'm too used to Windows steady (click&wait) pace.


(or it's something that I ate) :)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 123 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by _Steve_ on 12-Jul-2004 13:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 115 (Eva):
Eva, do you not get bored of regurgitating the same rubbish over and over again?
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 124 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 12-Jul-2004 16:06 GMT
> Sorry for posting over anonymizer, but i have reasons to keep my IP/ identity >secret for now.

I'll bet you do - perhaps to stop the legal action that could be taken against you for lies.

This thread should be deleted from ann.lu - its false, libelous and an afront to those who are working hard to create the real AmigaOS
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 125 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 12-Jul-2004 16:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Eva):
all people shoul dignore you - because your loyalties and Pegasos crusade and agenda are far too obvious.


at least others can have a neutral eye when being critical


PS When can we expect a STABLE and USEFUL MorphOS out of its public beta period?
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 126 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 12-Jul-2004 16:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 100 (hmmm....):
"Rich Woods (who seems to be avoiding the authorities, if the bunny is to be believed) "

Don't exaggerate. The document posted on the bunny, if genuine, shows that he is avoiding his landlord, not "the authorities".
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 127 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 12-Jul-2004 16:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 125 (Anonymous):
>PS When can we expect a STABLE and USEFUL MorphOS out of its public beta period?

There you go.. ruined a perfectly good comment by cheapshotting mouthfull. Tst tst...
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 128 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Ross Vumbaca on 12-Jul-2004 16:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 119 (She never gets tired):
Hot day in Australia?

We have a Winter here and her IP resolves to an Italian ISP...
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 129 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Hans-Joerg Frieden on 12-Jul-2004 19:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 118 (Eva):
> and ppl how Mr Herman and his employers continue to open their mouths ..

Why not? After all, people like you talk as well, even if it's hard to follow sometimes.

> These people are the hypocrisy flag.

And that from someone that is even going on the nerves of most MorphOS supporters.

Dunno what I'm talking about? Sere here
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 130 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 12-Jul-2004 22:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 129 (Hans-Joerg Frieden):
Posted by Hans-Joerg Frieden (217.84.160.246) on 12-Jul-2004 21:53:46
In Reply to Comment 118 (Eva):
> and ppl how Mr Herman and his employers continue to open their mouths ..

Why not? After all, people like you talk as well, even if it's hard to follow sometimes.

> These people are the hypocrisy flag.

And that from someone that is even going on the nerves of most MorphOS supporters.
_______

Well Hans you declared in 2001 a new AoS4 in 2-3 months ... where is it, balloonist?
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 131 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 13-Jul-2004 01:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 130 (Eva):
You really must have multiple copies of that record.. at least six of them has already worn out but you still keep going on and on...

Give it a rest.. rather spend your time bugging MOS developers for the MOS1.5 release..
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 132 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by miksuh on 13-Jul-2004 08:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (itix):
itix: fun ??? I don't see anything fun in threads like this :P
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 133 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Hans-Joerg Frieden on 13-Jul-2004 08:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 130 (Eva):
> Well Hans you declared in 2001 a new AoS4 in 2-3 months ...
> where is it, balloonist?

So? I was wrong. Things like that happen. In 2001, as I explained before, things looked different, and the plan was different (going with WarpOS instead of writing a new kernel).

There you have it. I admit it. I was wrong, and everyone that said it would be delayed was right. But as soon as you start producing anything else but crap postings on ANN, we can have a talk again about schedules, engineering in general, and software development in specific.

Until that time, you are one of the things that go "U SUK" in the night :-) A poor little troll that is so hillarious that everyone regardless of color groans when you enter a thread.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 134 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 13-Jul-2004 10:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 133 (Hans-Joerg Frieden):
There you have it. I admit it. I was wrong, and everyone that said it would be delayed was right. But as soon as you start producing anything else but crap postings on ANN, we can have a talk again about schedules, engineering in general, and software development in specific.

Until that time, you are one of the things that go "U SUK" in the night :-) A poor little troll that is so hillarious that everyone regardless of color groans when you enter a thread.
___________

Na dear Hans, you declared ballonist words just to damage Mos team and you know well it, troll.
On the other hand this was what Ainc and Hyperion wanted ... and they pay you, so ... it's all day more clear what is your and Hyperion position.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 135 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 13-Jul-2004 11:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 134 (Eva):
You do more harm to MOS then any Ben Hermans Thomas Friedens et all... you just don't realise that
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 136 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Nicolas Sallin on 13-Jul-2004 14:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 135 (pixie):
I would not be so sure.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 137 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 13-Jul-2004 14:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 133 (Hans-Joerg Frieden):
> So? I was wrong. Things like that happen. In 2001, as I explained before, things
> looked different, and the plan was different (going with WarpOS instead of
> writing a new kernel).

Hmm... please, elaborate. Are you saying it took you 3 years to write a PPC Exec replacement? I don't recall so. You are spending time converting 68k code to PPC (despite your (or your bro's, I always get confused) support for Hare's claim that AmigaOS is portable by definition), fine tuning it, overcoming HW problems, and so on... how could WarpOS possibly have eliminated all these problems? Besides, if WarpOS would have let you come out with AOS4 3 years ago, then surely it would have been a much better choice?!

You know what I think, Mr. Frieden, I think you need to invent something more credible.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 138 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 13-Jul-2004 14:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 136 (Nicolas Sallin):
I would.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 139 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 13-Jul-2004 19:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 135 (pixie):
Posted by pixie (194.65.71.47) on 13-Jul-2004 13:25:13
In Reply to Comment 134 (Eva):
You do more harm to MOS then any Ben Hermans Thomas Friedens et all... you just don't realise that
_________

Ask to Pegasos and MorphOs developers who was that with FALSE announces in 2001 destroyed their 3 years of FREE and DEDICATED job, Pixie.
Then close your mouth and go where you need to stay, in a dogville with other well know B. dogs.
Hypocrit.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 140 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 13-Jul-2004 20:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 139 (Eva):
So you actually think that those things harmed MOS & Genesi (and affiliates) in the long run? Really??

If anything the delays enforced MOS/Genesi.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 141 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by hmmm.... on 14-Jul-2004 03:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 137 (Fabio Alemagna):
1. Hyperion already said that the reason why they didn't go with WarpOS was that they found the performance unacceptable (since they are obviously planning on selling games for OS4, performance is very important for them)
2. The reason why they've taken three years is because large parts of OS3 were written in BCPL and 68K assembler. I bet that even the C parts had a lot of SAS/C specific stuff in them and would not compile under gcc. Those had to be rewritten in portable C. So that's why NOW they can claim it's portable. BCPL and 68K asm is not.

But you already knew that, because it's been discussed to death. You just want to say something negative, and it's good to see that you're running out of topics.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 142 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 14-Jul-2004 03:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 141 (hmmm....):
#1 reason for not using MOS/Pegasos: Because you might end up be associated with EVA.

#1 reason for not using AROS: Because you might end up being associated with Fabio.

When will you guys realise that your blind hatred and ignorance towards all things AmigaOne/OS4 do nothing but harm to your own pet pojects?
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 143 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 14-Jul-2004 04:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 142 (Darrin):
Anyone that associates MorphOS users with Eva is an idiot...
Same with OS4 and Samface.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 144 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 14-Jul-2004 04:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 143 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>Anyone that associates MorphOS users with Eva is an idiot...

You really can't help it because EVA keeps insisting on associating himself with MOS... loudly and contantly.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 145 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 14-Jul-2004 04:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 144 (Darrin):
Well, I can't kill her/him but I can surely tell him/her to shut the fuck up:-)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 146 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 14-Jul-2004 04:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 145 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis (Registered user) on 14-Jul-2004 06:18:07
In Reply to Comment 144 (Darrin):
Well, I can't kill her/him but I can surely tell him/her to shut the fuck up:-)
_____

Well alkis, if ppl like you is unable to use a brain, it's your problem.

Read Frieden and Hermann 2001 posts and all the FAKE announces they declared just to kill a competitor ALSO claiming Legal actions, that they never was able to do. They was false and usefull just to slow 3 years of all amiga oriented developments.

In 2004 exists only an Aos4 Alpha Crap. After 3 years of time ... and just to give money to ppl like Hermans and McEwans.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 147 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 14-Jul-2004 05:07 GMT
Only idiots like ALkis or Pixie can trust a Game company when it say that "We can create a new OS in 3 months"
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 148 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Jon on 14-Jul-2004 06:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 134 (Eva):
Can't you give him some rest? He already admitted being wrong that time! Can you EVER discuss anything useful? What do you want, a vendetta, his head on a stick? Get a life, it might do miracles to you.

They are not the only company whose schedules have slipped over deadlines.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 149 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Stefan Burström on 14-Jul-2004 06:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 146 (Eva):
What will it take to shut you up???
FWIW, people lie, plans don't go as planned, people overexagerate. So what??? It is 2004, not 2001. When will you stop living in the past? Your "back in 2001" argument is really starting to sound like a broken record. May I suggest to Christian that posts written by Eva containing 2001 wont even get added to the database? It would be a nice hack in the msg post code :-)

Regarding this 'crappy alpha os' that is sitting next to me... My AOS4 machine
has replaced my old A4000T since some time and I use it as my production machine without any problems. Care to elaborate what's so crap about something you havn't bothered looked at???

rgds,
Stefan
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 150 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 14-Jul-2004 08:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 139 (Eva):
first go learn the meaning of the word 'Hypocrit', it not to be used only because you want it to be so...

> Ask to Pegasos and MorphOs developers who was that with FALSE announces
> in 2001 destroyed their 3 years of FREE and DEDICATED job, Pixie.

How can one destroy a free and dedicated job is beyond, but i already feel sorry for them as it's you who is defending them with such lame arguments...
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