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[Forum] [forum] OS4 video by crisotANN.lu
Posted on 11-Jul-2004 14:50 GMT by Wankerraffalellelala164 comments
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Just in case you didn't noticed:: 'Crisot' (the same guy who released the 'pegasos in the toilet' video some time ago, about we laught a lot) released a video which shows current status of OS4 (please check the previous posting here on ann.lu). I have watched this video now again and again and it's normal to come to the conclusion that it's faked. No, not the content, but the speed. The framerate is not correct/realtime, it was made faster. You can spot this easily by watching the mouse movements of the user for example.

Is OS4 so bad that's required to release a video which is 'faked' in such way? I don't think so. And yes, I agree that the Prerelease isn't "the fast thing" i expected to get for my A1.

It makes me a little bit sick how some users are operate to spread 'propaganda'. Isn't it bad enough already that OS4 is so much behind the competition in same market. Now MorphOS users laugh at me for beeing a loyal amiga user. :-\ I'm already happy with the Prerelease, but I hope thing will become a lot faster, but such video is useless.

This is a request to all: please keep such stuff out of this community. When you release a video then release a video which shows true facts. It's from absolutly no use to 'lie' by publishing false information. In the end the normal user is the only stupid.

Crisot, release a proper version of your video to stop this! Thanks. @kemp:
Sorry for posting over anonymizer, but i have reasons to keep my IP/ identity secret for now. Thanks for your understanding. But I feelt it is required to bring this to public discussion. :\
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 51 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 11-Jul-2004 18:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Fabio Alemagna):
The video is quite real.

It is truly hilarious to see all this conspiracy nonsense.

The fact of the matter is that the Developer Pre-release has a Radeon driver with NO blitting support and a 68K Picasso96.

Not hard to beat that with a somewhat optimised, fully PPC native P96 using a Radeon driver with blitting support.

Quite frankly, the smell of desperation in certain quarters is getting somewhat overwhelming.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 52 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jul-2004 18:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Stefan Burström):
> Yes, please do so and pay close attention to the spinning globe in IBrowse.

What about it? During the 0.5 seconds or so it's spinning, it looks like it should - at 15 fps.

> Well, check the loading speed of IBrowse. Here
> IBrowse loads in around 1 second which matches the avi more or less ok. If the
> avi was faked, the loading speed would be faster.

Now you're just being silly. As the guy who wrote IB, you ought to know that loading speed is *heavily* dependent on eg. the size of the browsing history file. On one machine it might take 1 s, on another machine with the same specs 15 s or more.


> * The os4-event video was done with gfx and mui being m68k while this video
> was done using ppc native gfx and MUI.

Which is why the speed doesn't suck as much in this new video, even at it's apparently proper speed of 15 fps. So?

> * What is funny is that you are going through all this hazzle trying to
> 'prove' something about a product you don't seem to be even remotely
> interested in.

My, what an interesting and funny point. Now if I could only understand the relevancy of it.

> Your credability is soon reaching below zero

Speaking of credibility, I'm just happy this video is just the product of an overzealous luser, and as such doesn't harm the AOS4 effort (it could have, if the deception hadn't been exposed here and it had been let loose "in the wild") and not Yet Another "official" shenanigan.

> although that is not such a great achievement among some of the posters here
> at ann

Luckily I haven't seen Ben Hermans, Fleecy, BBRV or any of the other clan/clown leaders post here for a while now... There's an alternate reality portal for each cult now, so as far as discussions go, ANN and other non-cultist-only sites offer the best content. The Samface/Eva cretin types are easily identifiable and ignored, as opposed to other places where they're the imposed norm.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 53 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 11-Jul-2004 18:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (Johan Rönnblom):
> Fabio: Well, I don't think it's their job to do that.

I beg to differ. Just like it would be - and they sure seem to think the same - their job to debunk anything that would put their product in a bad light without real motives, it would also be their job when someone attempts at making their products appear better than they really are. But, mind you, not because of some morality issues, but rather simply because it's better for them to be open and honest about their product and not let false information, of any kind, be spread about it.

For the record, this video has been mentioned on OSNews as well. Should it come out it is a fake, guess who will be hurt in the end?


> Also, it's not that obvious.

Sorry, but if it really shoulr be played at 15 fps rather than 30fps, then the video is twice as fast as it should be: I think that would be obvious to anyone that knows AOS4 like no one else does... like Hyperion.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 54 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jul-2004 18:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
Damnit. He just doesn't know when to stay away and minimize the damages.

Ben, what definition of the word "real" are we supposed to apply to your post? (You might wanna post your personal definitions of the words "fixed", "feature", "2001", "beta testing" and "two months" while you're at it.) And are you still speaking on behalf of Hyperion?
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 55 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jul-2004 18:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Fabio Alemagna):
I disagree. This was not material endorsed or controlled by Hyperion. I think Hyperion ought to steer well clear of it and not allow themselves to be smeared with $hit by unintentionally associating themselves with what some lusers do in their spare time.

Though now it seems Hermans followed your advice, but in the "wrong" way, and fscked up again.

Party on.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 56 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 11-Jul-2004 18:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
> Not hard to beat that with a somewhat optimised, fully PPC native P96 using a
> Radeon driver with blitting support.

Maybe. But at this point I decided I'm going to download the video myself. Let's see this mouse pointer then... :-)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 57 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Sigbjørn Skjæret on 11-Jul-2004 18:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
"Not hard to beat that with a somewhat optimised, fully PPC native P96 using a Radeon driver with blitting support."

That's rather interesting, as it was claimed that it runs on a voodoo3 3000 .. somehow I doubt a radeon driver will do much good with that, blitting or not...


- CISC
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 58 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Georg Steger on 11-Jul-2004 18:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Fabio Alemagna):
With Linux and movie players like xine you can start watching the video while it is still downloading/the file still being written/in use. So you don't need to download all of it. Which you should know, Fabio ;-)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 59 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jul-2004 18:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Fabio Alemagna):
> For the record, this video has been mentioned on OSNews as well.

Oh fsck. I thought it was just an "internal" matter still. Yeah, I agree, now it needs to be officially debunked and distanced.

But oh, no... "The video is quite real."

"It is truly hilarious to see all this conspiracy nonsense."

You know, Ben, that sentence wasn't even remotely applicable until you came here and put your foot in your mouth by your endorsing this crap. Funny how things turn out. What fscking conspiracy? Until you came blathering here, nobody but this Crisot character was accused of anything.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 60 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Stefan Burström on 11-Jul-2004 18:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Johan Rönnblom):
>As for your spinning globe idea, well nice idea but it's not possible
as it's not spinning enough in the Crisot video (presumably because
he's moving stuff around all the time).

I actually made the effort of cutting it out using video editing software
and looking at it frame by frame. Something you should do too before making
hilarious claims.

Besides, if the author really wanted to go through all the hazzle of providing
a faked movie, why didn't he just try to move the mouse in slow motion during
the capture before he speeded up the movie? I mean, that is like lesson #1 in
the special effects class.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 61 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 11-Jul-2004 19:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 59 (Anonymous):
Hyperion does not "endorse" the video as such, it is a video produced by a beta-tester and is in no way "endorsed" as official.

It does however accurately reflect the current state of affaires.

Most of the other unofficial videos until now made use of the very unoptimised Radeon drivers using the 68K version of P96.

The video from Crisot is using the native version of P96 with the accelerated Voodoo 3 driver.

The same results can be obtained with the soon to be released optimised Radeon drivers.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 62 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 11-Jul-2004 19:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 60 (Stefan Burström):
Stefan Burström wrote:
> I actually made the effort of cutting it out using video editing
> software and looking at it frame by frame. Something you should do
> too before making hilarious claims.

Heh, and you're complaining that *I* spend too much time on this
issue? :-)

Well, I have no video editing software (MotionStudio is not ready, you
know :) but I can see in mplayer already that the globe isn't spinning
enough unhindered by GUI usage (maybe about 1/4 of a revolution, if
that even) to make it possible to measure the speed reliably this way.

I think Crisot is the only one who can tell us what the real framerate
is with certain accuracy. I'd guess on 15fps but maybe it could be
20fps (though 15fps makes sense for a lot of reasons, technical and
because doubling it would be the most natural idea for a prankster).

> Besides, if the author really wanted to go through all the hazzle of
> providing a faked movie, why didn't he just try to move the mouse in
> slow motion during the capture before he speeded up the movie?

What hassle? Filming it is a bit of a hassle yes, changing the
specified framerate from 15 to 30fps wouldn't take many seconds.

For your second question, well sorry to be rude but I don't get the
impression that this Crisot guy is very bright. Even so, as the whole
point with making a speeded movie is to make it look.. "speeded", he
probably wanted things to fly around fast rather than at normal pace
although with faster updates. Well, why don't you ask him about it? :)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 63 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 11-Jul-2004 19:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
> The video from Crisot is using the native version of P96 with the accelerated
> Voodoo 3 driver.

Wait a minute... Woodoo 3? How strange, I thought you had said it was a Radeon... oh dear, I must be getting old...
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 64 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 11-Jul-2004 19:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
Ben wrote:
> The video from Crisot is using the native version of P96 with the
> accelerated Voodoo 3 driver.

Haha, this is where I wish CISC had told you Crisot was using a Matrox
GFX card. :-)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 65 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 11-Jul-2004 19:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Johan Rönnblom):
It is actually a Voodoo 3.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 66 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 11-Jul-2004 19:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (Anonymous):
"Speaking of credibility, I'm just happy this video is just the product of an overzealous luser, and as such doesn't harm the AOS4 effort (it could have, if the deception hadn't been exposed here and it had been let loose "in the wild") and not Yet Another "official" shenanigan."

I've seen no evidence that proves the vid is faked, on the contrary, it looks authentic to me

"Luckily I haven't seen Ben Hermans, Fleecy, BBRV or any of the other clan/clown leaders post here for a while now... There's an alternate reality portal for each cult now, so as far as discussions go, ANN and other non-cultist-only sites offer the best content. The Samface/Eva cretin types are easily identifiable and ignored, as opposed to other places where they're the imposed norm."

The above was uncalled for, as it's completely unrelated to the matter at hand, not to mention it's pure flamebait & insulting
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 67 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 11-Jul-2004 19:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 59 (Anonymous):
Take a close look at ann.lu this week, there's been a massive "attack" (for lack of a better word) on AOS4 & associated products, all started by anonymous twats, all trying to hurt the project.

I'm not going to say it's done by blue trolls (i believe it's not done by them for the record), but something's definatly going on.

We've had 2 threads about the fabled ArticiaS and the missing/present DMA, then we had the vid being called faked (this thread) and just recently a thread about ObtainSysList & Forbit (plus associated ports)

Ben Hermans said the vid is authentic, but missed the details on the gfx card, perhaps they do achieve this speed, perhaps not, but if someone really wanted to fake it, there would've been better ways

There's a disturbance in the force :P
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 68 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 11-Jul-2004 19:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Fabio Alemagna):
Fabio: I tell you, it isn't that obvious. Yes, it does look much more
natural in 15fps, but with the bad quality.. it *is* hard to tell.

Anyway, now Crisot released another video in decent quality. That
video clearly runs at the correct speed, so if someone wants to claim
that Crisot's system is much faster than that shown on the OS4-party
video, well this should be the video to check.

So.. whatever people choose to think of the first one, the second
should clearly be the one to see to get an impression of the real
performance. :-)

(as for the URL.. I just got it in an irc channel, someone who knows
if it's ok to post it should do so, I don't want to cause an unwanted
massive overload of Crisot's account)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 69 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Fredrik Andersson on 11-Jul-2004 19:59 GMT
I don't see anything suspicious about this movie, sure it looks like it's capture with a bad FPS but regarding mouse movements etc I don't think it looks unnatural.
However I gotta say I think it's really silly that people have to compare basic UI performance (Wheneither it's MorphOS or AmigaOS); grow up or something; unfortunately it seems this community (MorphOS/AmigaOS) is silly like that.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 70 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 11-Jul-2004 20:03 GMT
Video seems real to me, it seems he's in a hurry to get all the things shown
so the video isnt getting too big.
I have no idea what cpu this machine is but it looks real smooth and fast, way
faster than my pegasos, i tried the mui prefs scrolling, here it hangs while drawing the contents.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 71 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 11-Jul-2004 20:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 68 (Johan Rönnblom):
Well, I checked a few details in the old and new video, and now came
to the conclusion that the first one *IS* actually shown at correct
speed. It's just that the poor quality hides some of the defects, as I
first suspected. So I change my mind for the second time in this
thread. :-)

Anyway, the new one is of course much more interesting because you can
actually see what it's like.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 72 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 11-Jul-2004 20:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 70 (catohagen):
The video was captured on an AmigaOne XE-G4 933Mhz, with Voodoo 3, native P96 and GFX.

I have an AmigaOne XE-G4 800Mhz, with Radeon, native P96 and GFX. However, the Radeon driver isn't as mature as the Voodoo one, and doesn't have full hardware acceleration for intuition.

On my system, "dragging over" the MUI prefs panes, and using AmiPDF is EASILY as fast as the video, no doubt about it. IBrowse loads a bit slower, but once loaded works as fast as in the video. Dragging icons also seems about right for my system.

The only things noticeably slower on my system are SimpleMail loading & scrolling (but then I have thousands of mails in there), and solid resizing.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 73 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 11-Jul-2004 20:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (Fabio Alemagna):
> Maybe. But at this point I decided I'm going to download the video myself. Let's
> see this mouse pointer then... :-)

Watched the video... it seems pretty authentic to me. Yes, the mouse pointer moves very fast when going from one place to another, but I can imagine there are people who are able to handle the mouse so fast.

I also tried playing it at 15 fps, but it was too slow to be realiztic. You could see the mouse pointer leaving behind it a "ghost" pointer whenever it moved, which would only happen if the framerate was high enough to capture the fading off of the pixels where the pointer was. In no circustamnce I'm going to believe AOS4 gfx subsystem is so crappy that it makes the mouse leave trails behind it. And, besides, the rest was too jerky at 15 fps, it simply can't be that slow.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 74 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 11-Jul-2004 20:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (Peter Gordon):
Peter wrote:
> The only things noticeably slower on my system are SimpleMail
> loading & scrolling (but then I have thousands of mails in there),

Yes, SimpleMail seems to become *much* slower with many mails. I
decided to switch from YAM, but after I copied all my 70000 mails (up
to 10k per folder) and trying out YAMPPC (previously I had my mail on
the old 060 Amiga4000), it turned out that YAM is considerably faster
(very nice, I must say).

> and solid resizing.

Well, if you check the new video, solid resizing doesn't look so fast
anymore (he's not doing it as much, only with the IB window a bit).
Like I suggested in comment 23 it looks "slow" in the old version too
at close inspection, it's just that it hurts your eyes looking at it
which is probably why you don't unless you really try. :-)

(and a disclaimer again, for people who won't read comment 23, I don't
mean that it's necessarily a lot slower than MOS (haven't benchmarked
it), I mean in absolute terms, eg it's not fast enough to be really
useable (it's not in MOS either)).
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 75 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Crisot on 11-Jul-2004 21:02 GMT
http://uniweb.free.fr/os4

Better video. Still a bit crap but with sound and no flicker. ;)

Sorry if I handle mouse too fast...
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 76 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Crisot on 11-Jul-2004 21:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (Crisot):
And yes I handle mouse very fast because of video size. The originals videos are allready quite crap so I have to use a quite high video bitrate to make the divx "as good as possible". And Memory Stick Pro for long videos are also very expensive :-D
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 77 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Frieden on 11-Jul-2004 21:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Bill Hoggett):
> In the recent climate, I'd be surprised if people did not fake evidence on both
> sides. Honesty has long since stopped being valued by many advocates on either
> side.

Thank you, Bill. I was really missing all the pointless accusations from you.

Strange that every time some news itme is posted, Bill Hogget pops up and says we're lying.

Maybe you should get over it ?
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 78 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Frieden on 11-Jul-2004 21:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Eva):
> Now before you continue to LIE assuming that CRITICAL componets like 68k emu,
> Gfx subsystem, I/O subsystem (and DOZENS of other things that Aos4 alpha LACKS
> COMPLETELY), conncects your brain and repeat:"I have to THINK"

LOL. Evy, please reread that sentence and next time finish it properly.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 79 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Frieden on 11-Jul-2004 21:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (Johan Rönnblom):
> Well.. just play it back in 15fps and in 30fps and judge for

Yes, and if you play it backwards, you hear Satan speaking, followed by a toilet flushing.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 80 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Frieden on 11-Jul-2004 21:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Fabio Alemagna):
> Mind you, this is NO proof that the video is NOT fake. I'm rather inclined to
> believe it is, judging by the comments in this thread by people that I deem
> trustworthy.

Like Eva ?
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 81 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 11-Jul-2004 21:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (Thomas Frieden):
Sorry, there's no audio. :-)

Anyway, don't know what got you in such bad mood, a day when not only
one but *two* negative claims about OS4 have been debunked, one would
think you'd be happy?

Also please re-read Bill Hoggett's comment, he's not accusing you of
anything, he's making a quite general observation about "many
advocates on either side". I couldn't agree more with him.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 82 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 11-Jul-2004 21:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (Thomas Frieden):
Perhaps not stopping to the first comment would be a good idea, ya know? Read below, perhaps you will be surprised.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 83 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 11-Jul-2004 21:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 82 (Fabio Alemagna):
Well... you DID indicate your bias before seeing the video for yourself, which is probably what he was talking about more than anything else.

Anyway... the video is not faked... lets all just get over it and look forward to end users getting this stuff ;-)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 84 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 11-Jul-2004 22:27 GMT
The first video quality was so bad that it was difficult to appreciate properly the speed of the UI.
The new video is much better, I hope this one goes on OSNEWS to show people what is a proper UI responsiveness.
The speed is now on par with fast Amithlon and Pegasos systems.
The only thing that looked slow to me was quake (specialy for 800*600)
BTW what was the resolution and depth of the workbench ?
It would be nice to have more of these videos (with showing applications running etc) to make the Amiga and "Amiga like" solutions appealing for the people who it may interest. That would be more constructive than the recent threads.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 85 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 11-Jul-2004 22:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (Christophe Decanini):
You can't tell how fast quake goes by watching the demo. The demo goes at a fixed frame rate (the demo has a fixed number of frames, which are played at a specific rate. When you do a timedemo, it plays those frames as fast as possible, which is why everything goes faster).
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 86 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 11-Jul-2004 22:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Peter Gordon):
OK but then what is the demo fps ?
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 87 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Bernie Meyer on 11-Jul-2004 23:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 81 (Johan Rönnblom):
One could almost be reminded of the "if the shoe fits" phrase....
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 88 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 12-Jul-2004 00:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 76 (Crisot):
hi Crisot,

do you do all these videos for humour, or are you making serious documentarys here?
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 89 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Rafo on 12-Jul-2004 00:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (Darth_X):
Well, Crisot is our "Mickael Moore" in some way.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 90 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by James Carroll on 12-Jul-2004 01:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (Darth_X):
He made them to demonstrate OS4 speed. That doesnt really fit into either catergory..
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 91 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 12-Jul-2004 02:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 89 (Rafo):
> Well, Crisot is our "Mickael Moore" in some way.

That's what I was thinking.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 92 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 12-Jul-2004 03:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (Thomas Frieden):
LOL!
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 93 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Sigbjørn Skjæret on 12-Jul-2004 03:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (Crisot):
"Sorry if I handle mouse too fast..."

Nothing to be sorry for there, you obviously have quite a talent .. tell me, are you any good in Quake? ;)

..anyway, congratulations on the much better 2nd video .. higher resolution, proper VBL sync (almost atleast), and sound (listen to that mouse get ground to dust)! ;)

OS4 responsiveness is undoubtedly shaping up, although probably more due to proper drivers with blitting than the gfx being native or not...


- CISC
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 94 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 12-Jul-2004 04:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
Which are these "certain quarters" Mr. Hermans?
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 95 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 12-Jul-2004 04:35 GMT
"I have watched this video now again and again and it's normal to come to the conclusion that it's faked. No, not the content, but the speed. The framerate is not correct/realtime, it was made faster. You can spot this easily by watching the mouse movements of the user for example. "

I had the same feelings when I saw MorphOS video some time ago. In the end... the play speed seemed to be different, depending how you launch the video on Windows... Perhaps the player could not deside on what speed the video should be played. (playing 25fps video @ 30fps)

Still I wonder how it is humanly possible to use mouse pointer that accurately as in the MOS video. (In the AOS4 video there was at least some hesitation etc. visible.)

(I've done similar videos in early 90's and no matter how hard I practised I had several misses etc. when clicking around with mouse pointer.)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 96 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 12-Jul-2004 04:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 95 (priest):
I would really like to have that guy on my UT2k4 clan, to replace me as a
sniper, I lost my ability to handle the mouse that well when I ruined my right
hand with epicondylitis. I have switched to the rocket launcher and crazy
movements now, till I also ruin my left hand... :-(
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 97 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 12-Jul-2004 05:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Anonymous):
"Why is the default skin so ugly "

LOL! My thoughts exactly, about MOS screenshots.

(I know there is better skins but those remotely XP lookalike gadgets just freak me out...)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 98 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 12-Jul-2004 05:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 71 (Johan Rönnblom):
I think U just earned a wheelbarrow full of respect. :)
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 99 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 12-Jul-2004 05:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 97 (priest):
>LOL! My thoughts exactly, about MOS screenshots.

The default Ambient skin is used VERY rarely.. infact, I have only seen it a couple times since 1.4 was released. On the contrary, people seem to be using _all_ the other skins BUT not the default skin :)

So you may have a point there that the default MOS skin is ugly. Most people seem to agree with you.
[forum] OS4 video by crisot : Comment 100 of 164ANN.lu
Posted by hmmm.... on 12-Jul-2004 05:58 GMT
So, now that it's been demonstrated that the videos are not fake, we can turn our attention to the next interesting question in this topic: who's the poster (who had no choice but to use an anonymyzer) and why did he bring this up?

I'd normally suspect one of the regular blues, except that they usually don't use anonymizers. Count out the reds, since this thread tried to discredit one of their beta testers. Just leaves select blue-leaning individuals, who dare not risk having their IPs traced. Hmmm... two suspects jump to mind: Rich Woods (who seems to be avoiding the authorities, if the bunny is to be believed) and Bill Buck (who's been stung already for saying too much in forums). Anyone else?
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