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Posted on 22-Aug-2004 15:42 GMT by Andreas Kleinert32 comments
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After succeeding this afternoon with both, installing the SDK and porting "akGIF.datatype.elf" I'm now looking for reliable beta testers for this and future MorphOS projects. If you don't mind to spend some time on real-life testing and bug search, please drop me an email. Thanks! (the MorphOS version does by no means exclude any AOS4 version for the future - I just want to focus on one single platform for now)
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 1 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by someoneelse on 22-Aug-2004 14:18 GMT
then you choosen the wrong one
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 2 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 22-Aug-2004 14:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (someoneelse):
>then you choosen the wrong one

Didn't you prove the opposite by saying what you said already ?
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 3 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by marcik on 22-Aug-2004 15:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (someoneelse):
Yeah, comments like this will attract developers to choose the "good" one ;)
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 4 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by hnl_dk on 22-Aug-2004 15:05 GMT
Hi' Andreas
Hope the best for your projects :-)
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 5 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 22-Aug-2004 16:14 GMT
The "Warp" datatypes were better anyway....and free...
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 6 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Framiga on 22-Aug-2004 16:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):
Warp datatype are free?!? where do you live? . . .
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 7 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 22-Aug-2004 16:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Framiga):
On an island in the caribics with lots of monkeys ....
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 8 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 22-Aug-2004 20:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Framiga):
At least thy are not crippled.....

But nevertheless, they are better.
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 9 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 22-Aug-2004 20:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Kronos):
What's that knonos, can't affort a vacation to the carrebean?
Then at least don't sound that bitter, it scares the ladies away......;-)
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 10 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 22-Aug-2004 20:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
If you don't like the AKdts, do not use them or comment about them... End of
story...
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 11 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Dresing, PD on 22-Aug-2004 21:31 GMT
ELF is a monster!
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 12 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by bæsjen on 23-Aug-2004 04:03 GMT
Good work, Andreas :)
Will ur new datatypes be free?
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 13 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Aug-2004 05:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
If I don't like them I comment negative about them,, who are you to comment about that. Or are you part of a censorship squad...
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 14 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 23-Aug-2004 05:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Anonymous):
Alkis is the leader of most radical wing of the Censorship-4-U-4-Ever-movement, aka C4U4E

Direct contacts to Osama bin Laden and shit... tuff geezer. I wouldn't piss him off.
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 15 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Andreas Kleinert on 23-Aug-2004 06:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):
>The "Warp" datatypes were better anyway....and free...

Small correction to the facts:
The Warp datatypes *used* to be free - and the akDatatypes *used* to be Shareware. Today it is exactly the opposite way around, talking about what is on Aminet. Once you install the free keyfile, these also are not crippled anymore.
The new PPC versions will be free for now - since I do not operate any business anymore.

Small correction to your opinion:
1. There is no WarpGIF from Oliver Roberts, as far as I know. There is one, but it certainly could not have been compared to akGIF, either (since it was not available at that time).
2. The new akDatatypes will be ppc-native and GCC-compiled, so cannot even be compared to the 68k datatypes anymore. You will have to do a new test.

Last not least:
Just wait and see. And if you do not like them, then simply do not use them.
I also do not care about the MOS/AOS4 wars. There are things I like (and do not like) about either approach. It's simply impossible for a single part-time developer to support two platforms at a time. However, making applications portable will be of value in any case.
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 16 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Andreas Kleinert on 23-Aug-2004 06:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Andreas Kleinert):
oh, and one addition:

the main reason for the current datatype work is, to get to a stable "platform" which allows for more complex stuff (also, but not limited to other datatypes) like a PPC-native SView-Library.

So, please either be constructive - in form of beta-testing - or simply get back under your stone and shut up for now ;-)

I'm mainly doing all this for my own fun currently. So it's hardly possible to stop me from doing so :-)
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 17 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 23-Aug-2004 06:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Andreas Kleinert):
"I'm mainly doing all this for my own fun currently. So it's hardly possible to stop me from doing so :-)"

That's the right approach, I presume :) Anything new, and any new developments/developers are definitely "nice to have" for MorphOS - the way I think :)
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 18 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 23-Aug-2004 10:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Andreas Kleinert):
@ Andreas

Very nice! Keep'em coming! :-)
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 19 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 23-Aug-2004 11:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Emeric SH):
http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2648&forum=11

:-)
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 20 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 23-Aug-2004 13:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (itix):
Not to mention actual support of aforementioned developers :)
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 21 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Aug-2004 15:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Emeric SH):
Yeah, Open Desktop Workstations for free! :-)

http://www.morphos-news.de/index.php?lg=en&nid=838&si=1
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 22 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Artur "APair" Pietruk on 23-Aug-2004 20:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Andreas Kleinert):
Good to hear you are back, and:

> I'm mainly doing all this for my own fun currently.

yeah, fun is the only thing that really counts, you got to like what you do ;-).
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 23 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Aug-2004 02:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
I see that Bill Buck is back to his old tricks: phree boards, take 2. Problem is, there aren't any more amiga programmers left ;)
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 24 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 24-Aug-2004 06:30 GMT
"I see that Bill Buck is back to his old tricks: phree boards, take 2. Problem is, there aren't any more amiga programmers left ;)"

That's why they are looking for Linux and MorphOS programmers ;)))
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 25 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by XraalE on 24-Aug-2004 14:18 GMT
It's not that I don't want to support new software for MorphOS, but MorphOS already comes with a fast and working GIF datatype. I don't see the point in doing another. Maybe datatype development should shift to other images? JPEG2000, LJPEG, and TIFF and its many compressors?
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 26 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Andreas Kleinert on 27-Aug-2004 04:13 GMT
For anyone interested, there's now a Yahoo group for discussions and new beta versions, currently akGIF and akJFIF for MorphOS:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pswx-beta/
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 27 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Andreas Kleinert on 27-Aug-2004 04:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (XraalE):
>It's not that I don't want to support new software for MorphOS, but MorphOS >already comes with a fast and working GIF datatype. I don't see the point in >doing another. Maybe datatype development should shift to other images? JPEG2000, >LJPEG, and TIFF and its many compressors?

The WarpDatatypes are also redundant under this aspect, AFAIK.

But of course you are correct.
The main reason why I am starting with these is, that I know that they work fine under AOS 68k and Amithlon. This way I can exactly find out which bugs and problems are caused by MorphOS (and there were quite some yet!) and which are the fault of my datatypes. This will lead to a stable, common "datatype skeleton".

The same skeleton also will be the basis for SView5/SVObjects porting.

There's also a chance, that my datatypes will be an improvement over the existing ones, but for this judgement it is too early and it is of course not up to me ;-)
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 28 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Andreas Kleinert on 27-Aug-2004 04:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Anonymous):
>I see that Bill Buck is back to his old tricks: phree boards, take 2. Problem is, >there aren't any more amiga programmers left ;)

Unfortunately my Pegasos was not for free, but paid with hard-earned money.
I think I've asked for one ~2 years ago but did not get any response. But I cannot find the relevant email anymore.
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 29 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Sigbjørn Skjæret on 27-Aug-2004 05:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Andreas Kleinert):
"This way I can exactly find out which bugs and problems are caused by MorphOS (and there were quite some yet!) and which are the fault of my datatypes. This will lead to a stable, common "datatype skeleton"."

Uhm, do you mean bugs/problems in your port, or in MorphOS itself? ..if the latter, have you told anyone or atleast documented it so it can get fixed?


- CISC
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 30 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by __NOSPAM__info@ar-kleinert.de on 27-Aug-2004 12:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Sigbjørn Skjæret):
Well, I just started development 5 days ago - I'm still collecting.
Where exactly can MorphOS bugs be reported?
Someone told me, that these may be "known bugs" but I may report anyway.
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 31 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Sigbjørn Skjæret on 27-Aug-2004 14:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (__NOSPAM__info@ar-kleinert.de):
Well, you have a Pegasos don't you? In that case you should get yourself subscribed to the MLs .. mail the MorphOS support mail in your manual for more info...

..anyway, in the meantime you could always join #morphos on arcnet and tell us about them there (there's always atleast one of us awake)... ;)


- CISC
akGIF.datatype.elf betatesters : Comment 32 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by snowblood on 27-Aug-2004 15:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Sigbjørn Skjæret):
http://arcnet.vapor.com for serverlist. :-)
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