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[Forum] MAXON Cinema 4D for AmigaANN.lu
Posted on 23-Aug-2004 09:44 GMT by Gunnar von Boehn31 comments
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Maxon considers to release Cinema 4D for Amiga. Since years Maxon does not sell the Cinema 4D version for Amiga anymore. The last Amiga version was Cinema 4D V5. Around 1999, Cinema 4D was released for free on a Amiga-magazin CD. The Maxon people said they would offer the Amiga version for download on their website. If people wanted them they would release the Amiga version for free. But unfortunatly they have moved houses and don't have the old software versions anymore. Please help them to release Cinema 4D for Amiga. If you have an old Cinema version please contact them and send them the binary so that they can release it for free. If you want them to release it to the Amiga community please contact them (phone/email) and tell them that you like this idea. Contact: MAXON Computer GmbH Max-Planck-Str. 20 D-61381 Friedrichsdorf Deutschland Tel. +49 (0)6172 5906 0 Fax +49 (0)6172 5906 30 E-Mail: info@maxon.de
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 1 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by killllllbillllll on 23-Aug-2004 07:48 GMT
Cinema4D rules. The current pc/mac version is lightyears ahead of the old Amiga version now. I'd love to see it on morphos/aos4 though, but I doubt they'll pool resources to contiune development of such a small platform :)
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 2 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 23-Aug-2004 08:00 GMT
Wasn't there an offer to buy the source on eBay some time ago?

Cheers
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 3 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Remco Komduur on 23-Aug-2004 08:01 GMT
What about the rest of their Amiga software then?

I'd rather see them placing ALL of their Amiga software on the site. It's not being developped anymore so no harm is done.
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 4 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by top on 23-Aug-2004 08:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Remco Komduur):
instead of Fighting some compagnies that aren't interested in Amiga market, PLEASE help CADTECH that is working now since weeks on a new version Imagine3D For Amiga that will support new features of AOS4, full powerpc rendering, new improved interface and editor. Imagine (IFA) has been improved and still developped since 1998-1999 by CAdtech for Amiga market.
Imagine is powerfull, as it still the ONLY 3D software developped and improved on Amiga market, people should buy it (it is really not expensive) and help CADtech to get more money to pay more developpers to improve even quickly Imagine.
If people want to make 3D on AmigaOS they should buy Imagine that is a reference on our computer.

<http://www.cadtech.demon.co.uk>;http://www.cadtech.demon.co.uk<;/a>
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 5 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 23-Aug-2004 08:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (top):
"Imagine is powerfull, as it still the ONLY 3D software developped and improved on Amiga market"

Excuse me, but then where is the promised WarpOS version? Or any update, if we're at it.

I for one would like to see Imagine happening though, and a MorphOS or even a 68K version would delight me :) But to be honest, ATM I'm a bit sceptical, given the fate of the promised updates for Amiga.
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 6 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Tanzyr on 23-Aug-2004 08:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (killllllbillllll):
I'd just be thankful if they'd release the full documentation + both addendums as a PDF somewhere.
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 7 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Remco Komduur on 23-Aug-2004 09:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (top):
If it will run native on OS 4 I will be happy to buy it. But that doesn't mean all Maxon software shouldn't be freelly available for downloading!
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 8 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by bennymee on 23-Aug-2004 10:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (killllllbillllll):
Tornado was also not that bad!

It had bugs but lot of features. Also PowerPC and hardware 3D acceleration was available in Tornado. A shame H&P couldn't get the sources...
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 9 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Crumb // AAT on 23-Aug-2004 11:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (bennymee):
yes, Tornado 3D was great... it's a shame that it's discontinued...

BTW, any news about Blender for MOS?
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 10 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Graham Chapman on 23-Aug-2004 12:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Crumb // AAT):
>BTW, any news about Blender for MOS?

Is that anything like "Frog in a Blender" by Joe Cartoon? ;-)
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 11 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Marl on 23-Aug-2004 12:17 GMT
Hi,
sorry to say, but the message above is complete bullshit.
I don't know who thought it up, but i think stirring up hope
here is not a very kind thing to do.
Maxon will definitly not make the AMIGA version of CINEMA 4D
freely available, so please refrain from requesting it.

Cheers
Björn
(Maxon QA)
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 12 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Marl on 23-Aug-2004 12:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Remco Komduur):
Maxon can not release this software since Maxon is not the owner but was only the distributor of it.
Please ask the authors of the respecitve software on this.
Kind regards
Björn Marl
(Maxon QA)
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 13 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Paul W. A. on 23-Aug-2004 13:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Björn Marl):
You can't release it because it would compromise future sales of a currently in-development Cinema4D for AmigaOS/MorphOS?

I think this sounds very cool! At least you have not forgotten your roots and the guys that made you big.

Cheers and keep up the good work!
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 14 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 23-Aug-2004 13:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Paul W. A.):
" I think this sounds very cool! "

I think this sounds overly optimistic at best :)
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 15 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Gunnar on 23-Aug-2004 13:23 GMT
Hello,
I spoke with the Maxon people on the phone.

Fact is: MAXON does NOT want to release Cinema 4D.

The original post that Maxon would consider to release
the Amiga version seems to be based on a misunderstanding.

I'm sorry for the trouble caused.

Gunnar
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 16 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Marl on 23-Aug-2004 13:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Paul W. A.):
Yes, that sounds cool, but it wasn't what i wrote :)
Just to make it clear:
There are no plans on developing future CINEMA versions for Amiga in any way.
There are no plans on making older AMIGA CINEMA verisons freely available under any circumstances.
Or in short: No :)

Cheers
Björn
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 17 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 23-Aug-2004 13:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Björn Marl):
Oh, go on. You know you want to. ;-)
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 18 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Aug-2004 14:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Björn Marl):
I don't understand why it's not possible to make it freely available.

If there will be no new Cinema 4D for the Amiga, then why now release the old version ?

It was already released on cover CD's years ago. So it's unlikely that you will get any money from the guys who would buy it. So why not release it ? Even many much bigger software companies have released old versions of their game/application,

I would buy future Cinema 4D for the OS4 :) But as you said there will be no OS4 / MOS version

I already have cover cd version of latest Amiga cinema 4D, so atleast I'm not going to buy it anymore :)
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 19 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Aug-2004 14:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anonymous):
If there will be no new Cinema 4D for the Amiga, then why not release the old version ?
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 20 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by reflect on 23-Aug-2004 15:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Anonymous):
he just said they didn't OWN it but was just the distributor.
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 21 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Stefan Blixth on 23-Aug-2004 15:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Anonymous):
I bought a second hand copy of C4D and it really rocks on my Pegasos2...
What about try to obtain som used copies instead of naging Maxon for the impossible ? =)

I've seen a lot of non-expensive sales of C4D around, it's really worth every penny even if it's aged a bit compared to the Win/Mac-version.
Try ebay, you'll might be lucky as I was (just 20 Pounds).
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 22 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 23-Aug-2004 16:19 GMT
This is a very sad day for Amiga users, and I who had thought that Maxon would be doing charity...
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 23 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 23-Aug-2004 16:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (top):
>PLEASE help CADTECH that is working now since weeks on a new version Imagine3D For Amiga that will support new features of AOS4

Will there be MorphOS compatible version? Becouse if there won't be, I'm not interested :-)

I used Imagine on my A1200 quite a lot, when I was using it actively...
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 24 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Aug-2004 19:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Jupp3):
> Will there be MorphOS compatible version? Becouse if there won't be, I'm not
> interested :-)

It will be enough if they make it Amiga compatible, i.e. running PPC code on classic Amigas (the *real* Amigas). That way it would work FINE on MorphOS, classic Amigas, and also (hopefully) on upcoming versions of OS4.
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 25 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Aug-2004 12:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Anonymous):
it already exists in warpup version, but there was no upgrade since a
long time and no morphos version seems to be planed (else i would buy
the soft at least 2 times right now)
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 26 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Aug-2004 12:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Stefan Blixth):
I said I don't need to buy old Cinema4D because I already have FULL Cinema4D released in cover cd.
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 27 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Aug-2004 12:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Anonymous):
So you are saying that they should not make OS4 version which would run on OS4 ? You think they should instead make verssion which would hopefully run on OS4 too ? Yeah right :P Interesting opinion. :P
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 28 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Megol on 24-Aug-2004 14:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Anonymous):
So your opinion is that AOS4 isn't backwards compatible? Yeah right. Interesting opinion. </tongue in cheek>

IMNSHO the only way to get _any_ interesting new software is to convince the developers that there are a large enough market for them. Helping them by making it possible for their software to run on MOS/AOS4/"Classic" */AROS** would be the best way to ensure that the market _is_ large enough.

(* Perhaps, too slow for many things)
(** Perhaps, not yet complete)
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 29 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 24-Aug-2004 14:47 GMT
It is sad that as speed becomes available to make 3d programs more usable, the time available to play with the software disappears.
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 30 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Crumb // AAT on 24-Aug-2004 14:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Graham Chapman):
http://www.blender3d.com/

A port for MOS is being done... I saw some screenshots at MorphZone and it looked promising...
MAXON Cinema 4D for Amiga : Comment 31 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Aug-2004 19:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Anonymous):
hmm, perhaps i told badly wanted i wanted to say, i you misunderstood
me

i said that as soon as i learn that a morphos version is planned i
would buy imagine 2 times in order to support the authors because i
really love this soft on amiga classic
in other words: i think its so good that it deserve buying it 2x if a
mos version see the light
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