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[News] Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system!ANN.lu
Posted on 25-Aug-2004 11:39 GMT by Bill Panagouleas27 comments
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No it is not a typo! Any order for DiscreetFX software gets entered into a drawing to win a free SGI O2 system. This system was used to develop the Video Toaster [2], VT[3] & Amiga Video Toaster Flyer version of Spontaneous Combustion. This system includes video/audio in/out so it can be an input or output to the SX-8 on your VT[3]! More information about the SGI O2 can be found here.

http://www.sgi.com/products/remarketed/o2/graphics.html
This system sold for well over $5000 new and cost DiscreetFX almost $4000. Enjoy a piece of computer history and experience the fun excitement of having a real SGI in your studio. System has Irix 6.4 already installed and is ready to capture video/audio. System includes SCSI hard drive, RAM, CD-ROM drive, mouse, keyboard and everything needed to boot and run. You have to supply your own monitor but it will work with any modern PC monitor or HDTV.

Many open-source and freeware graphics tools exist for SGI

http://freeware.sgi.com/

http://www.sgi.com/fun/freeware/graphics.html

There is even a version of Photoshop, & Illustrator for it.

Pictures of the computer you can win will be on the DiscreetFX website in a few hours and the contest winner will be announced at the end of September. The winner of this system will get to enjoy a piece of DiscreetFX history and can even have the system signed by the DoscreetFX staff if they want. Please call if you have any questions.
Best regards
Bill Panagouleas
Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system! : Comment 1 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by SLayeRDK on 25-Aug-2004 09:57 GMT
And the DiscreetFX website is where ?
Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system! : Comment 2 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Gareth Knight on 25-Aug-2004 10:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (SLayeRDK):
http://www.discreetfx.com
Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system! : Comment 3 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by koan on 25-Aug-2004 15:06 GMT
So the title of the posting is misleading, it's not

buy software and you will get a free system

but

buy software and you *may* get a free system

very different, I think

koan
Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system! : Comment 4 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 25-Aug-2004 15:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (koan):
it's called marketing. don't tell me this was the first time you heard about it? :)
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Posted by Anonymous on 25-Aug-2004 16:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (koan):
Did you think every single buyer would get a free SGI ?
Have a beer..
Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system! : Comment 6 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Bernie Meyer on 25-Aug-2004 16:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):
Why not? Considering what I paid for my Indy (which, sadly, fell victim to an office fire recently), giving everyone "an SGI" should be quite doable.Sure, not an O2. But an old Iris.... except the shipping cost would be a killer.SGI have been around for a long time, and just like you can pick up 10 year old digital cameras for peanuts these days, you can often pick up old SGIs for the service of taking them off somebody else's hands. Not that you'd want to, but...
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Posted by Ian on 25-Aug-2004 19:04 GMT
Probably could have given everyone an O2, shipping aside. We threw out 40 of them sixth months ago, it's just a shame I couldn't rescue them all :-(
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Posted by Anonymous on 25-Aug-2004 21:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (hooligan/dcs):
> it's called marketing

No, it's called stupidity. Misleading advertising of this form can get the dealer before a court very quickly (imagine a customer using the law to get the promised computer).
Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system! : Comment 9 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Panagouleas on 26-Aug-2004 02:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
Sorry for the typo

:)
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Posted by ikir on 26-Aug-2004 06:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
C'mon! The title is ok! Don't be silly.
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Posted by koan on 26-Aug-2004 06:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (hooligan/dcs):
> it's called marketing. don't tell me this was the first time you heard about it? :)

No, this is not "marketing" it is misleading. If this advert was subject to UK law then the poster could be prosecuted.

koan
Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system! : Comment 12 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 26-Aug-2004 08:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (koan):
Don't be a prick!
Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system! : Comment 13 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by koan on 26-Aug-2004 09:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (pixie):
How pathetic.

The relevant laws are called "The Trades Descriptions Act" and "Sales of Goods Act". If products are not as advertised then the consumer can take the seller to court. I am sure there are equivalents in other countries.

koan
Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system! : Comment 14 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Aug-2004 11:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (koan):
Shut the %^$%^$* up Koan. You ARE being a prick!
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Posted by Anonymous on 26-Aug-2004 11:52 GMT
>Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system!

Sorry, but this is false advertising and wrong. In fact you are buying into a 'lottery' - and under UK law this also falls foul. note all those 'purchase not necessary' that you often see.


Calling someone a 'prick' etc etc for them pointing out the law is just plain stupidity.

MANY MANY companies have been shafted by this law - I wouldnt want DiscreetFX to be done likewise :-(
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Posted by koan on 26-Aug-2004 13:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
Yeah, right. It's still wrong.

Now that this thread has been moderated to "News" can someone tell me what has it got to do with Amiga ?

You'd think I'd been flaming some free source coder who's working on a really good Amiga project.

koan
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Posted by Coder on 26-Aug-2004 14:24 GMT
C'mon its just a news posting. Why does every news posting have to be taken apart to see if there is something wrong with it. All the comments here are about misleading etc. If you go that way you can find something wrong with every news item. Oh look 3 k's in that news posting. Boing! Just read the news item and you can see what it is all about. Just relax man.

Coder
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Posted by pixie on 26-Aug-2004 18:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anonymous):
> calling someone a 'prick' etc etc for them pointing out the law is just plain stupidity.

It's clearly explained in the article that it will have a drawing to see who the winner will be, but:

a) Do you feel cheated by the way you've been 'pulled' to this article?
b) Do you think that can be other people who could eventually be deceived by the title and
1) based on it alone buy one or more DiscreetFX products, naively thinking they will get one 4000$ machine based on a per product basis? or
2) after reading the article (which is binded to the title) still give him the wrong idea of having a free SGI per product?

In a) you have every right to be pissed! After all look after what you have lost, you can never trust navigating one site again based on the titles alone... you must have felt the world tumbling beneath your feets, everything you believed is now wrong, world is full of hate hanger and people who try to foul everyone around, you should so call a Lawyer and express your grief and take him to court!

If it's the b) either case, we have that you're wearing a 'dumb glasses', everyone around is dumb, and so no one has any responsability of his acts, even if one foreign (obviously dumb) who couldn't understand almost no english but 'free' 'order' and 'SGI' would be untitled to be (righteosly) mistaken and ask for his free SGI. With this glasses it's the state who should think for the citizens, one shouldn't think -> only react.

Yes I found him to be a prick about this issue, and yes law can also be stupid, but not imutable...
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Posted by koan on 26-Aug-2004 19:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (pixie):
@Pixie,

The original article has a very tenuous link to Amiga and it's questionable it should be on this forum
in the first place; unless you think any software on any architecture that was once used to do
something related to the Amiga is relevant.

The wording of the post is misleading, probably not deliberately but nevertheless it is wrong and it's not just a simple
spelling mistake.

Only a complete moron would think that it isn't and jump to insult someone you don't know.

koan
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Posted by pixie on 26-Aug-2004 22:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (koan):
> The original article has a very tenuous link to Amiga and it's questionable it
> should be on this forum in the first place; unless you think any software on
> any architecture that was once used to do something related to the Amiga is
> relevant.

Video Toster is a bit more related to Amiga then you make it sound... and there's always be some posts who acording to some can be seen as being more or less related with... Amiga :O in ann (I know they're hard to find these days;) besides, ann doesn't stand for amiga network news these days, your point being!?

The title as you said can be mesleading, but it isn't alone it as an article with it. On Amiga.org for example the title has been corrected, but for me I stand by it, you were making a fuss out of nothing...
Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system! : Comment 21 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 26-Aug-2004 22:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (koan):
I sense troll..
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Posted by JoannaK on 27-Aug-2004 01:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Darth_X):
Well.. IMHO only thing that has any interest is original offer.. Not that it would have any real effect (it does not), but it shows well the situation around Amiga. Remaining few companies are tryin to pull all possible stunts to get *minimal* sales with their years-old stuff. Sad...

With this trend, there's not much left. This and E-bay:ing of Alladin4 tells a lot.
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Posted by Bill Panagouleas on 27-Aug-2004 02:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (JoannaK):
Guys I was just trying trying to do something nice by giving away an SGI O2, it is a cool little machine and kind of like the Amiga's super expensive long lost step- brother. No confusion was intended by my post.
Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system! : Comment 24 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Panagouleas on 27-Aug-2004 02:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Bill Panagouleas):
Anyone that sends a post-card to this snail mail address will also get entered to win the SGI O2.

http://discreetfx.com/Contactinfo.htm
Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system! : Comment 25 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Coder on 27-Aug-2004 04:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Bill Panagouleas):
We know, don't worry. :-)

Coder
Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system! : Comment 26 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by koan on 27-Aug-2004 06:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (pixie):
> Video Toster is a bit more related to Amiga then you make it sound...

Well I'm sure that parts of Lightwave, Pagestream etc etc were partly developed using PCs but I don't think PC news is what should be posted on ANN.

> The title as you said can be mesleading, but it isn't alone it as an article
> with it.

You go to ANN homepage, you only see "Free SGI system if you buy Discreet s/w". You have to click the read more link to find out it's not true.

I don't think so-called News posts on ANN should be "click on the read more link to find it's not true".

> you were making a fuss out of nothing...

Was I wrong ?

I was not making a fuss, ANN is for discussion, I discussed! You, on the other hand posted a 1 line flamebait with swearing.

koan
Order software from DiscreetFX in Aug and Sept 2004 and get a free SGI system! : Comment 27 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 27-Aug-2004 09:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (koan):
> Well I'm sure that parts of Lightwave, Pagestream etc etc were partly
> developed using PCs but I don't think PC news is what should be posted on ANN

Amiga users use Video Toaster, how it turned to be alien technology for Amiga I don't know, besides if you go to the Amiga company you can see that the products you can buy are actually Amiga Software! :O Isn't that amazing?

> You go to ANN homepage, you only see "Free SGI system if you buy
> Discreet s/w". You have to click the read more link to find out it's
> not true.

The shock, the horror!!! You have to click on the link to know the complete history behind the title!! :O If I were you I would sue the 'bastards' to death and take all of their money for this misleading practice!!

For me it's derivated more from one of ann 'features', once the article is send it's set in stone (at least for the user who'd sent it), at least it wasn't made this way on amiga.org...

> I was not making a fuss, ANN is for discussion, I discussed!

You were making one discussion out of thin air... it's quite diferent

> You, on the other hand posted a 1 line flamebait with swearing.

Are we getting touchy here now!?
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