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[News] Two new µ-A1's models on the wayANN.lu
Posted on 28-Aug-2004 15:44 GMT by Still Articia?170 comments
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Two MiniITX A1's models are on the way, both G3. The first one is very similar to the "beta" versions that was sold earlier. The price for this one will be $600USD/500EUR, excluding VAT. The other version will also offer some more features such as Firewire, Gigabit Ethernet and an additional (custom?) PCI connector, and will cost $700USD/600EUR.

More info at: http://www.eyetech.co.uk/addbar.php?Address=/NEWS/TWONE001.HTM

Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 101 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 30-Aug-2004 04:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 95 (Adam Kowalczyk):
No, i'm not stupid or ignorant or anything else, but if a personal fute is the only thing between Eyetech & Genesi i'd be extremely supriced.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 102 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-Aug-2004 04:41 GMT
Copy/paste...

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Hello !

A little comparaison between the Pegasos II GB ethernet controller and the new AOne one: RTL8110 Gb/100/10 controller Vs Marvell MV64361.

I saw a big draw back for the AOne: the Realtek chipset is a PCI device, so I guest it will be "attached" on the PCI bus of the AOne. Unfortunatly, the "conventional" PCI bandwidth is not that much for Gb ethernet...

GB max speed: about 120 Mo/s
PCI max speed: about 130 Mo/s.

If you take in account that the PCI bus also have to handle FireWire, IDE/UDMA, USB... It's just too much for the PCI: the GB speed is likely to be limited by the PCI bus itself.
Whereas, the MV64361 won't be because it's directly "inside" the northbridge.

Also, the AOne Indus "only" have a G3/800 which migh not be enough to follow the Gb performance as the CPU will also have to deal with the high level protocol (HTTP, SSH, FTP...).

At last, while the industrial version (which as far as I understood, is for network server) has a "good" sound chipset? It will just increase the cost for nothing (It's not really usefull to have high-quality sound in a server...).

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About the FireWire, Which chipset is used ? Is it directly inside the southbridge ?

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And for everything (FireWire, USB, UDMA, NIC ...) still the buggy ArticiaS ?? Is it the same than in the current AOne, or one with the same issue? without April?

If the wekk known issue are not solved *in hardware*, there is absoluty "0" chance than any serious Linux user will buy that computer...

Well, my 2 cents...
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 103 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Olegil on 30-Aug-2004 05:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 91 (John Block):
What about whorehouse management systems? Mustn't leave those out. Important market, that...
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 104 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Olegil on 30-Aug-2004 05:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
Load the sound driver under Linux and see what happens. The AC'97 PCI bridge inside the southbridge never talks to the AC'97 codec over the AC'97 link. It claims the codec is a type "0000:0000" which is just WRONG :-)
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 105 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-Aug-2004 05:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Lando):
AmigaOS 3.5 and 3.9 was not free either, and many of us did buy both of those anyway.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 106 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-Aug-2004 05:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 71 (AdmV):
You can't just think Mhz numbers when you compare PPC and x86. If you do that, your results are badly wrong.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 107 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-Aug-2004 07:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 91 (John Block):
"Warehouse management systems."

You should of put a ? mark at the end as you clearly have no idear.
Besides games what was the nexr best thing the Amiga was good at the time.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 108 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 30-Aug-2004 08:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 107 (Anonymous):
That`s Eyetech`s main business.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 109 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 30-Aug-2004 09:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 108 (John Block):
http://www.amiga.com/corporate/060600-eyetech.shtml gives a profile of Eyetech`s other activities
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 110 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 30-Aug-2004 09:14 GMT
Amiga and Eyetech both share a vision and strategy to re-establish the next generation Amiga Operating Environment as the leading multimedia hardware-independent delivery platform for the year 2000 and beyond. Both companies believe that this strategy will return Amiga to its rightful position as a leader in multimedia computing, and thereby redeliver the recognition and pride back to the loyal Amiga community that has waved the flag over these last 15 years.

recognition and pride. Ohhh mommaa... :)
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 111 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous Orc on 30-Aug-2004 09:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
it IS cheap - the board is around 130 EURO (which includes the'name' licence.

the extra costs are down to CPU, Memory and OS4.

Unless you expect the OS to be free, this is about the cheapest price such hardware will be available at!
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 112 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous Orc on 30-Aug-2004 09:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Don Cox):
> As for cheap, what was the price of the A1200 when it came out, and how do the specs compare

399 UKP was the A1200 launch price in the UK. That was in 1991, so If you factor in inflation, then, in todays prices, that would be 547 UKP

thats with the AGA chipset, a 14MHz 020. 2Mb of ChipRAM, no harddrive, no FPU, floppy drive included, and built into its own custom case.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 113 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous Orc on 30-Aug-2004 09:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Anonymous):
the TiVo is a PowerPC based box which is percectly capable of doing its one single job very weill indeed.

now, try using it to do another job - you cant, its custom / purpose built.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 114 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous Orc on 30-Aug-2004 09:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 73 (Anonymous):
>It would be nice if there was an option to get say a 1.5 GHz G4 instead, >although it would cost more of course

thats what the main boards, instead of the miniITX boards are for.


I, for one, cant understand people who buy the top-spec CPU MiniITX boards that require active cooling fans - thsi pretty much negates the main reasons to go for the MiniITX (low power consumption, no noise, low heat disappation, no movable parts to go wrong)
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 115 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 30-Aug-2004 10:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 102 (Anonymous):
"If you take in account that the PCI bus also have to handle FireWire, IDE/UDMA, USB... It's just too much for the PCI: the GB speed is likely to be limited by the PCI bus itself."

I bet peg2 has more horsepower for those rare situations where more than just one bus is continuously heavily loaded. But those situations are rare.

And I think there is more separate PCI buses than just the one with the PCI connector... I bet (0.2 cents) that the chip is on the same AGP/PCI bus than the Radeon, perhaps running @66mhz...
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 116 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 30-Aug-2004 10:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 93 (Anonymous):
"thus you must take what you get, inferior as they may be."

People still seem to have some options. Like the XE version and later the CX version, if they dislike the bundled things of the mini moards.

(in perfect world, I would like to have
1) mini or nano sized minimalistic cheap board (low end)
2) uA1I board, (mid end)
3) micro sized minimalistic cheap board (mid end)
4) micro sized "normally" featured board for the (high end)
And all of them would have GFX chip, audio and perhaps an embedded PPC on the motherboard/northbridge. 2...4 would also have AGP slot.
Developers would know the minimum/common specs, but still they can use RTG and RTA for system friendly apps.
But so far it's not a perfect world, perhaps we are moving baby steps towards it)
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 117 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-Aug-2004 10:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 116 (priest):
> And all of them would have GFX chip

Why?! That's the fastest-moving technology segment. On-board chips tend to be a generation or two behind. Besides, they almost always have inferior signal quality (due to the close proximnity to the CPU and other sources of noise). Finally, it's difficult to find space for DVI and SVHS and VGA and composite in the ATX I/O area. They are weaklings. And if they are not, how do you attach a super-cool heatpipe cooler to impress other dudes? You don't have any of these problems with a card. I hate on-board VGA.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 118 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by ABM$ on 30-Aug-2004 11:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 93 (Anonymous):
My R7000 PCI has DVI (Mac Edition:) The fact
this it is an R7000 does not automatically mean
that it won't have DVI out. USB 2 would be nice,
but Firewire 800 would be even faster. Lets not
nitpick everything to death. The price may come
down if Eyetech can find a big customer for the
boards. They may have decided not to waist yet
another X-Mas season waitng for the big industrial
order and did it for all the people screaming for
this board in the admitedly small community. Some
Amiga revenue is probably better than increasingly
flat Amiga revenue. Business is always a little
bit of a gamble, anyway.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 119 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-Aug-2004 12:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 118 (ABM$):
> USB 2 would be nice, but Firewire 800 would be even faster

The manufacturers make the majority of equipement with USB ports, get over it. If you have an idea how to plug an USB memory stick, TV card, MP3 player, webcam, laser printer, scanner, bluetooth adapter, w-lan etc. into the "even faster" firewire port, let us know ;)
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 120 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Adam Kowalczyk on 30-Aug-2004 13:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 101 (Amon_Re):
"No, i'm not stupid or ignorant or anything else, but if a personal fute is the only thing between Eyetech & Genesi i'd be extremely supriced."

Well, the short story is there is far too much bad blood between these groups to see any form of co-operation.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 121 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 30-Aug-2004 13:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (Olegil):
Olegil:
>In Reply to Comment 81 (Bernie Meyer):
>"It seems to be a NewThing[tm]. I hadn't heard about it, either, and was quite >surprised to find it with a quick google search."

>Rub it in, why don't you? :-)
>I was WAY to quick to dismiss PCI-104 as a typo :-(

I have designed couple cards with PCI-104 bus ... IIRC that part of the cards have not been tested, so I can't be sure if my version actually works, though..

> Whish we had some pictures of the board, and some more specs on those extra
> interfaces (like how to make that riser). I have bad experience with
> building electronics to interface with untested features on AmigaOne
> hardware (I have a homebrew soundcard for the SE that shows the excact
> same symptoms that sound on the XE does ;-) )

Ah.. I forgot to ask about it.. I do hope those Sample-Chips were OK.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 122 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 30-Aug-2004 13:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 104 (Olegil):
Oh. Ah well.. so much for that project.. They (eyetech mai whjoever) never bothered to fix Aone-XE board design?
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 123 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Gregg on 30-Aug-2004 14:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (JoannaK):
</>Addendum.. Link to older (V1.0) specs.. http://www.winsystems.com/specs/pci-104_spec_%20v1_0.pdf

You are "hammer", and I claim my £5.

Gregg
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 124 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Crumb // AAT on 30-Aug-2004 14:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 114 (Anonymous Orc):
The 750FX used in the microA1-C requires active cooling :-(

They should put a fanless 7447A
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 125 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Adam Kowalczyk on 30-Aug-2004 15:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 115 (priest):
"And I think there is more separate PCI buses than just the one with the PCI connector... I bet (0.2 cents) that the chip is on the same AGP/PCI bus than the Radeon, perhaps running @66mhz..."

No, the Radeon chip is the only device on the AGP/PCI bus (PCI 1). The Gigbait chip is on PCI 0. I'm really not too worried about GB ethernet being limited by the bus speed. Keep in mind that some applications are intended to be diskless where the network device is going to be the highest utilized device.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 126 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-Aug-2004 15:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 125 (Adam Kowalczyk):
"The Gigbait chip is on PCI 0. I'm really not too worried about GB ethernet being limited by the bus speed. Keep in mind that some applications are intended to be diskless where the network device is going to be the highest utilized device."

If you look at some Gb benchmark, you will notice that "normal" PCI chipset are far behind the others (which use faster buses or directly in the NB).
Moreover, usually you can not operate a NIC without DMA. GB ethernet traffic will stress quiet a lot the chipset (which also have to take care of the others PCI devices in the same time...)
And we know where DMA leads with the ArticiaS...

So I would really worry about if I would own a such machine
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 127 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-Aug-2004 16:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 111 (Anonymous Orc):
"it IS cheap - the board is around 130 EURO (which includes the'name' licence.

the extra costs are down to CPU, Memory and OS4."

Well then buy your cheap motherboard without CPU and without OS4 and see how fun it is. The minute you buy a CPU and OS4 it isn't cheap anymore.

Besides, you shouldn't trust everything you read just because it comes from Eyetech. The cost brakedown is hilarious, especially the CPU cost part. No way, I say.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 128 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Adam Kowalczyk on 30-Aug-2004 16:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 126 (Anonymous):
Did plenty of tests under Linux regarding benchmarks when using GB and IDE. No issues with DMA at all. The OS4 driver isn't too far off either for this chip. I should know and do know, unlike yourself which unless your hiding somewhere in MAI's office and I haven't met you yet...your speaking without any real facts.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 129 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by ABM$ on 30-Aug-2004 18:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 119 (Anonymous):
I said "faster" - half the debate seems to
revolve around what would be more desirable, etc.
Then when one bit of kit might be better supported
(or desirable), then quibbling over speed seems to be
the order of the day. What is more desirable, speed
or the number of devices one can hook up to an A1?
FW 800, though not as widely supported, is faster than
than USB 2. Neither is supported directly (though
buying a PCI adapter might be possible, someday).
It's an imperfect world.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 130 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-Aug-2004 20:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 129 (ABM$):
> What is more desirable, speed or the number of devices one can hook up to an A1?

What is that, a rethorical question or a stupid question? Firewire has lost, USB 2.0 has won, time to accept that. It's not a matter of speed anymore. And it's not the first time that the slightly better system looses (see SCSI). Point is, releasing a new high end mainboard (price-wise) with USB 1.x can only be explained with stupidity or greed: gee, we have USB 1.x in the southbridge, why waste 5$ on an USB chip?
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 131 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-Aug-2004 20:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 130 (Anonymous):
FireWire video won: There is no popular USB video protocol.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 132 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by hammer on 30-Aug-2004 20:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 130 (Anonymous):
Mainstream motherboards such as GA-K8NNXP include IEEE1394B ports.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 133 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by hammer on 30-Aug-2004 21:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 106 (Anonymous):
One could quote benchmarks from X86 vs G4/G3 from MacOS world...
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 134 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by hammer on 30-Aug-2004 21:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 114 (Anonymous Orc):
>I, for one, cant understand people who buy the top-spec CPU MiniITX boards >that require active cooling fans - thsi pretty much negates the main reasons >to go for the MiniITX (low power consumption, no noise, low heat disappation, >no movable parts to go wrong)

Refer to any mainstream customer who installs a Pentium4 @+3Ghz on SSF.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 135 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by ABM$ on 30-Aug-2004 22:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 134 (hammer):
The 2 Mars Exploration Rovers, Spirit and Opportunity
(both roving the surface of Mars well beyond their predicted
90 SOL service life) employ very outdated 20 Mhz Motorola PPC
proccessors (yep, but rated for the rigors of spaceflight).
If PPC was good for JPL and NASA, then its good enough
for me. Just stop with this "yea but X86 is faster & cheaper"
[and outa control] stuff, already. I'm sick of it.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 136 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 31-Aug-2004 05:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 134 (hammer):
Well.. most of us know that mainstream customers have nothing to do with Amiga-fanatics... Years ago, Commodore 64 and Amiga 500 were mainstream.. since then it's never reached decent market share.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 137 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 31-Aug-2004 06:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 135 (ABM$):
> If PPC was good for JPL and NASA, then its good enough for me

A computer with 4 KB was good enough for NASA and Voyager, why don't you use that as your home computer? It has traveled much farther into space than those toy PPC robots. And, I kid you not, the industrial vers... oops, the 8 KB version had working DMA. Last but not least, it provides cool computing beyond the dreams of Eyetech: 0.33 Watt! Alas, with 16.3 kg, it's not mini-itx. And you neighbours may not like the nuclear battery.

http://www.bernd-leitenberger.de/computer-raumfahrt2.html
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 138 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 31-Aug-2004 06:45 GMT
It's nice to see a news item with 100+ comments on ANN again, that was a long time ago.

I have only one question: What northbridge do they use? Does both of them use the Articia-S? That could definitely be a showstopper here IMHO.

Other than that, my comments would be pretty much the same as everyones else; quite underspecced, underpowered CPU-wize, and on top of that it's heavily overpriced for a MiniITX board.

I have no doubt in the planned availability of the "C" model, but when it comes to the "I" model, I'll believe it when I see it (for some reason I get the feeling that it has hardly even been prototyped in real life yet; that is probably wrong, but I believe that there still will be a long journey before a fully working and fully tested end-user version gets here, with full OS support (Linux) and all).
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 139 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 31-Aug-2004 09:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 138 (takemehomegrandma):
>quite underspecced,

Underspecced for what, the intended use or the price? And most important, what are you comparing it with?

>underpowered CPU-wize,

Underpowered for doing what, exactly? I mean, what software compatible with AmigaOS4 would the CPU not be fast enough for?

>and on top of that it's heavily
>overpriced for a MiniITX board.

What makes you think that the cost for developing and manufaturing the board would be so much less than the price? And then again, what are you comparing with?

Note: I'm ignoring your Articia flamebait...
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 140 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 31-Aug-2004 09:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 139 (Sammy Nordström):
>Underpowered for doing what, exactly? I mean, what software compatible with AmigaOS4 would the CPU not be fast enough for?

UAE? :)
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 141 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 31-Aug-2004 11:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 136 (JoannaK):
That`s another thread!

Sinclair if he had not diversified into electric carts may have brought out something as good as amiga, building on the market share.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 142 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 31-Aug-2004 11:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 140 (hooligan/dcs):
You don't think a G3 is fast enough for emulating an Amiga?
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 143 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 31-Aug-2004 13:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 142 (Sammy Nordström):
The point is the solutions are not amazing or priced at a "no brainer" price, or even exciting.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 144 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 31-Aug-2004 14:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 142 (Sammy Nordström):
> You don't think a G3 is fast enough for emulating an Amiga?

At that price, enough is not enough, it better be a fucking rocket if the price-wise alternative is an AMD64.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 145 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 31-Aug-2004 17:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 141 (John Block):
Well.. Sinclair did release QL, and it was not all bad.. Not really good either and has (so typically siclairish) weird mass media, but it was nice 2by4 design.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 146 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 31-Aug-2004 19:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 145 (JoannaK):
And the one per desk idea of computer with telephone handset attached was interesting.
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 147 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by ABM$ on 31-Aug-2004 22:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 137 (Anonymous):
OT; Here at one AU out from the sun I can just
use my solar arrays. I save my plutonium fueled
Radioisotope Thermalelectric Generators (or RTGs)
for stuff out beyond the orbit of Mars;)

All I meant was that PPC is good, solid, reliable
technology and all the mad, overclocking, X86 "GHz
is everything" Pee Cee gamer types are more on the
bleading edge. It's not really about framerates and
running the latest games for me. What I liked about
Amiga was the really cool 2D, 3D animation and
video editing SW. Admittedly, these apps are very
proccessor intensive, but I won't compromise on
X86 or Windoze just because it's the more cost
effective solution. We are now dealing in the
realm of personnal taste, not economics. I'll pay
a bit more for something that works better or is
more well integrated. That's one reason I'm typing
this on a Mac and not an A1 (perhaps when OS 4
is finished and Micro A1 is available in quantity:)
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 148 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by hammer on 01-Sep-2004 00:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 135 (ABM$):
>The 2 Mars Exploration Rovers, Spirit and Opportunity
>(both roving the surface of Mars well beyond their predicted
>90 SOL service life) employ very outdated 20 Mhz Motorola PPC
>proccessors (yep, but rated for the rigors of spaceflight).
>If PPC was good for JPL and NASA, then its good enough
>for me.
Should I mention NASA is looking for 8086 processors in EBay?

>Just stop with this "yea but X86 is faster & cheaper"
>[and outa control] stuff, already.
Quote me in that post.

>I'm sick of it.
Why not get some rest so you can get better?
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 149 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by hammer on 01-Sep-2004 00:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 135 (ABM$):
The statement for "Pentium4 @+3Ghz on SSF" is for thermal characteristics. Note the context in post "Comment 114".
Two new µ-A1's models on the way : Comment 150 of 170ANN.lu
Posted by hammer on 01-Sep-2004 00:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 147 (ABM$):
>All I meant was that PPC is good, solid, reliable
>technology and all the mad, overclocking,
Unless one doesn't mention the Errata 8 for a certain IBM product.

>X86 "GHz is everything" Pee Cee gamer types are more on the
>bleading edge.

Note that, there’s a clock speed parity between certain 64bit MPUs. Judging from mainstream gamming benchmarks, the best gamer(e.g. DOOM3, FarCry, UT2004) MPU is actually clocked around +2Ghz. I think you are jumping the gun at this point.
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