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Amigaworld.net is currently down due to hard drive failure.

Everything possible is being done to return the site to normal, however we are unable to give an ETA at this time. In the meantime, the Amigaworld IRC network continues to function via the remaining US and European Amigaworld Servers

They are:-
UK.Amigaworld.Net
US2.Amigaworld.Net
NO.Amigaworld.Net

Updates will continue to be posted here as and when we know.

Amigaworld.net down : Comment 51 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Seer on 02-Sep-2004 20:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Seer):
>Did you know that the price of the microA1 was
>questioned by a lot of regulars there ?

Wait a minute... That's it !! There's no hardrive crash !! It's just a dark plot by the amigaworld moderators to delete that thread !

:-p
Kidding MickeyC kidding.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 52 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by derf on 02-Sep-2004 20:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (AmigaWorld visiter):
tell you what buddy, and all the anon users out there, when aw.net is back up why dont you plaster this thread with loads of urls to back up your accusations.

untill you do its just alot of hot air...
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 53 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by DaveyD on 02-Sep-2004 20:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Anonymous):
@All

We've successfully backed up the hda3 files to a remote location and are now awaiting for support to replace the harddrive. Site should be online sometime tomorrow afternoon (UK time).

Apologies for the inconvenience!

And thanks to Christian Kemp and Wayne Hunt for letting our members use your forums during this difficult period.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 54 of 281ANN.lu
In reply to Comment 52 (derf):
Message removed by Christophe Decanini for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Insults
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 55 of 281ANN.lu
In reply to Comment 52 (derf):
Message removed by Christophe Decanini for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Insults
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 56 of 281ANN.lu
Message removed by Christophe Decanini for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Insults
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 57 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by DaveyD on 02-Sep-2004 20:53 GMT
Above comment was not made by me
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 58 of 281ANN.lu
Message removed by Christophe Decanini for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Pirates links
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 59 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Tryo on 02-Sep-2004 20:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 57 (DaveyD):
Posted by DaveyD (62.252.192.4) on 02-Sep-2004 22:47:36
What my moderators do on my site is their own buisness.

Posted by DaveyD (62.252.192.4) on 02-Sep-2004 22:53:44
Above comment was not made by me

Thats a bit strange as it's the same IP, got any visitors around?
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 60 of 281ANN.lu
In reply to Comment 59 (Tryo):
Message removed by Christophe Decanini for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Trolling
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 61 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Gabriele Favrin on 02-Sep-2004 20:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (XraalE):
AmigaWorld is deeply connected to Amiga Inc. Not only you
can't criticice ANY Amiga issues on it, not only you can't
contradict "Amiga Inc fans" statemenents THERE, but if you
criticize it or its mmoderators on other sites, you are out
of business with Amiga Inc too. There are countless posts
moderated or removed because their authors just expressed
opinions different than the site politic. And sadky enough,
there are lot of flames against other sites on thrir
threads.

The problem is that AmigaWorld IS damaging and WILL damage
Amiga reputation outside the community. In Slshdot it has already
defined more or less a far from reality fan site and almost
in any other Amiga forum there are similar comments.
AmigaWorld will surely make little men feel important but
will also have Amiga business remain a small fanatic circle.
They can't understand this because they are frozen at the
'US vs THEM' times.

Too bad for the few remaining true Amiga supporters who
beleive in a future. People like the moderators and owners
of AmigaWorld are working hard to prevent your prefered
platform from being recognized and accepted in the 2004
professional IT world. Not a good idea while Eyetech is
_dreaming_ to sell MicroAT to the Industries...

So I think that real Amiga fans, either Pegasos or A1
users, should try to stop these peoplke from behaving in a
way that make Amiga community seem as a nursery.

Amiga is many thingas today. Let's hope that TRUE Amiga fans
will manage to isolate who is ruining Amiga reputation so
badly.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 62 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Gabriele Favrin on 02-Sep-2004 21:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Gabriele Favrin):
Sorry for typos, it's this new keyboard :)
(usual lie :)
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 63 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by DaveyD on 02-Sep-2004 21:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 59 (Tryo):
Yes it is very strange, somehow my IP address has been faked by this user.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 64 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 02-Sep-2004 21:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (DaveyD):
He spoofed your IP. I would recommend that you register your nick with sending an email to Christian.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 65 of 281ANN.lu
In reply to Comment 64 (Christophe Decanini):
Message removed by Christophe Decanini for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Pirates links
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 66 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 02-Sep-2004 21:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Sigbjørn Skjæret):
"I agree that it was silly to remove that thread .. not because the poster had a point (because he didn't (just seemed like trolling to get "even" with us evil "blues" who apparently were to blame for AmiDog's non-compliance)), but because the thread itself was a fine demonstration of the state of mind of people like this, and also because it debunked the silly accusations..."

I think we have enough of these kind of demonstrations on ANN. Do I really need to keep these posts to show how bad some people can act ? I don't think so.
Some people still visit this site to get news and even if they can untick the forum section I am pretty sure it is a big source of distraction with unpleasant consequences.
It is pretty sad to see so few comments on threads announcing the result of long hours of work and to see that much interest in these bashing posts.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 67 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Phil on 02-Sep-2004 21:38 GMT
Having Amigaworld down is like waking up from a nice dream. please hurry up Dave your flock can not handly reality.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 68 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Phil on 02-Sep-2004 21:38 GMT
Having Amigaworld down is like waking up from a nice dream. please hurry up Dave your flock can not handle reality.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 69 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by James Carroll on 02-Sep-2004 21:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 68 (Phil):
I like OS4, and I like being able to talk about it on aw.net.. do you have a problem with that?
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 70 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by XraalE on 02-Sep-2004 22:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 69 (James Carroll):
I like MorphOS, and I like not having outrageous lies spread about it in places where I can't fight it, where I've been banned for no reason except my anti-AInc statements on other sites. Do you have a problem with that?
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 71 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 02-Sep-2004 22:54 GMT
I dislike AW.net because threads are full of inane nonsense
(regularly accompanied by deplorable
spelling/punctuation/capitalisation), and if someone questions the
nonsense they usually get attacked personally, or a bunch of people
try to change the subject by moaning and bitching about something
completely unrelated (usually related to MorphOS, Genesi or the
Pegasos, but not always).

Actually I don't think it's all AW's fault as I can see a somewhat
similar tendency on a site like MorphZone at times. That is, people
go off with some completely unrealistic speculation. The difference is
that if someone corrects them, there are no personal attacks. People
might even listen, and at least they usually don't actively disregard
obvious facts pointed out to them. Also, moderators don't give
reprimands to people for having an even slightly critical attitude.
Threads are not locked or deleted in the event that something
interesting is posted. Flaws or suspected bugs in MorphOS or the
Pegasos are discussed with interest, rather than people changing the
subject whenever a potential problem is mentioned.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 72 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by XraalE on 02-Sep-2004 23:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 71 (Johan Rönnblom):
Inane nonsense? Surely not, never at AWN! :)

:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

:dancingboingball: :dacingboingball:

:lol:

Amiag Rulez!!!!!!!11111111111
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 73 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Sep-2004 23:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Agima):
Soon as final version of OS4? LOL
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 74 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Doommustard on 03-Sep-2004 00:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 70 (XraalE):
Humm.. well, Gary_C is tolerated just fine on AW. But that's because he usually has something constructive and intelligent to say.

You never do.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 75 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by XraalE on 03-Sep-2004 02:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (Doommustard):
AmigaWorld.net is obviously not the correct site for those who have something constructive and intelligent to say.

What's the current subject over there? How G3/800Mhz outperforms a G4/1000? Dear God. Anything to sell a board... How intelligent. How constuctive.

:dancingbanana:
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 76 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Sep-2004 04:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (XraalE):
"Why is AmigaWorld so hated?"

Because of the history behind the site of course!
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 77 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Wayne Hunt on 03-Sep-2004 04:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 76 (Anonymous):
See? This is one of the things I really don't understand. I understand of any site which allows anonymous posting is prone to childish behavior, but here's the thing.

While I don't really agree with the reasons, nor the methods used in the initial founding of Amigaworld.net (as an official exodus from Amiga.org), *I* above all people would have the right to hate Amigaworld.net, and I don't. When I started Amiga.org in 1995, I saw a niche that I felt wasn't being covered by the then-popular Amiga Web Directory, so I created a new site to fill that niche. Amigaworld.net's administrators and I have had our particular problems in the past, but they did exactly the same thing I did. They saw what they perceived as a niche and created a site to fill it.

Whether or not you are willing to see their reasons for it, the now-moderators and a lot of the user base of that site felt persecuted elsewhere (AO, ANN, Moobunny) in what they see as their desire to support the Amiga so they retreated to a place that they felt they wouldn't be constantly harrassed. I don't personally see a problem with that.

What I do have a problem with, and so should you all, is the shameful and immature behavior being shown by some -- mostly anonymous chicken-shit cowards -- in this thread. The ones attacking anything and everything that doesn't follow your line of thought.

I don't know whether it's because of the moronic pissing contest going on between "the blue" and "the red". I don't know whether there's a large contingency of assholes who simply love to stir the pot. I don't know whether it's just the fact that some people can't be rational, but here's a thought..... The only thing you've done by showing your ass in the "Amigaworld.net sucks" type of behavior is to SUPPORT the entire reason why Amigaworld.net needs to exist in the first place. Those of you with transparent agendas supporting Genesi are only serving to make Genesi supporters look like children.

So, in conclusion, the Amiga community needs all the support it can get on the Web. Stupid shit like this doesn't serve anyone's best interest, except those who would like to see BOTH alternatives to the classic Amiga fail.

Just a thought...

Wayne Hunt
Amiga.org
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 78 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 03-Sep-2004 05:04 GMT
If the site would have been on RAM/RAD disk, this kind of stuff could not happen.... ;-)

(Amigas being one of the very rare computers that stay "up" even when HDD dies)
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 79 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Sep-2004 05:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Gabriele Favrin):
There are countless posts
moderated or removed because their authors just expressed
opinions different than the site politic.

I personnaly have been moderated here while posting really interesting infos about the "non red side" of this "community" on this site here. And thus several times.

So if you like blue come here if you like red go to amigaworld.net
it's just that on amigaworld net you are moderated, they explain you why.

On ann.lu I just have managed to have a little mail that told me "resubmit it".
Was done dozen of time and never released.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 80 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Olegil on 03-Sep-2004 06:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (XraalE):
Love and hate are not opposites. Love and hate are both the opposite of indifference. The fact that so many hate and love AW.net means that people care about it, one way or another. That isn't so bad.

On the other hand, I couldn't care less about MorphZone, so there ;-)
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 81 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 03-Sep-2004 06:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (Doommustard):
Ah, thats why all his post now go under "anonnymus" .......
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 82 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by drHirudo on 03-Sep-2004 06:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (Olegil):
MorphZone loads damn slow from here. It must hate me. On the other hand AmigaWorld loads faster than a blink of an eye. So I already made my choise where to settle. I just hope that the speed wouldn't change for me when AW switches server's location.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 83 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Remco Komduur on 03-Sep-2004 06:14 GMT
Hmmmm....it seems that people hate AW because people's posts get moderated and they are atacked and stuff.
Hmmmmm....looks like to be the same then as here so why are you still here??

I think the problem is not with AmigaWorld but with the people outside it. For the last couple of years the people that wanted to see the AmigaOne and OS 4 have been ridiculed, insulted and god knows what more by the people that didn't want to see the AmigaOne and OS 4.

There is no problem with AW. It's just that the people that have a so called problem with it are hatefull, spitefull and a lot more things like that.

I never come to the MorphZone as I have no interrest in it. Do I start to ridicule it because people talk about another OS and hardware there? No!

In my opinion there is nothing wrong with AW. The things it's critized for also happen here and also on Morphzone but these people are still here. So I get back to what I said earlier. They are hatefull and spitefull and need to get a life. They have nothing to contribute but bad things.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 84 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Derek on 03-Sep-2004 06:38 GMT
As long as you say positive things (only) about the Amiga then you are accepted over there. but you dare criticize anything Amiga (even if it is justified) your messages get deleted and labeled trolling because they hate people who will not fall in to line.

That site makes the who community look pathetic.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 85 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 03-Sep-2004 06:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 83 (Remco Komduur):
It was explained many times. You see 'Amiga Comunity Portal', but in reality it is 'Amiga Inc Comunity Portal'. Today Amiga Comunity is a lot more than that corner, because there were almost no sign of mother company. Various developers took different routes and now you have HyperionOS, MorphOS, AROS.

You just have to look at people who administers that site/irc server. You can see there an AmigaOS channels, Linux channels, but #MorphOS channel is banned there, because 'it is not an Amiga'. It is sad and funny at the same time. Just look, erased few things to protect innocent:

[11:26:09] --> ChanServ (Services@Amigaworld.Net) has joined this channel.
[11:26:09] «Ban» ChanServ sets ban on *!<SNIP>
[11:26:10] «Kick» You have been kicked out of channel #morphos by ChanServ: not an Amiga channel

If you'll believe this reason, then why there is #linux channel ? It's so funny, that linux is Amiga, yet MOS isn't. It is one of the many things that make that place 'special'. Kindergaten.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 86 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by derf on 03-Sep-2004 06:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (XraalE):
@XraalE

"AmigaWorld.net is obviously not the correct site for those who have something constructive and intelligent to say."

Many people do just that. maybe you should ask yourself why you have this personal vendetta?

"What's the current subject over there? How G3/800Mhz outperforms a G4/1000? Dear God. Anything to sell a board... How intelligent. How constuctive."

nice way to take a thread out of context. its actually about how the G3's in the new micro A1's (I and C versions) is faster than a G4 that you get in the A1 XE's -at the same clockspeed- without taking altivec into account.

for a wesite you are totally against you sure do visit it alot.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 87 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by ikir on 03-Sep-2004 06:48 GMT
I hope to see AW.net back online soon.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 88 of 281ANN.lu
Message removed by Christian Kemp for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Pirate links
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 89 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by derf on 03-Sep-2004 06:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 71 (Johan Rönnblom):
"I dislike AW.net because threads are full of inane nonsense
(regularly accompanied by deplorable spelling/punctuation/capitalisation)"

im sorry that it tries to be a fun website where ppl can post whatever they want. also, why have a go at ppl's spelling and grammar when english is their 2nd language? seems a bit wrong to me.

IMHO if you want everyone to write on forums using english at an A-Level standard you should never use the web again.

"and if someone questions the nonsense they usually get attacked personally, or a bunch of people try to change the subject by moaning and bitching about something completely unrelated (usually related to MorphOS, Genesi or the
Pegasos, but not always)."

there is questioning (which happens regularly) and trolling (which also happens and is dealt with).i think you are confusing the 2.why dont you get involved in these discussions some more so you can see exactly what goes on?

"The difference is that if someone corrects them, there are no personal attacks. People might even listen, and at least they usually don't actively disregard
obvious facts pointed out to them. Also, moderators don't give reprimands to people for having an even slightly critical attitude. Threads are not locked or deleted in the event that something interesting is posted. Flaws or suspected bugs in MorphOS or the Pegasos are discussed with interest, rather than people changing the subject whenever a potential problem is mentioned."

you mention there being personal attacks on aw but then you go on to say that threads getting locked is bad. what do you think causes these threads to be locked in the first place? i really do think your aw.net experience is from what people have told you, or a few threads that have been pointed out to you as being typical of the website. as with everything you have to experience it for yourself to understand it. ignorence is not an option.

and to the guy who called it kindergarten(sp?) well, havnt you realised now that all website forums are like that? and the moderators are the teachers to keep the kiddies in check, heh.thats an indication of ppl as a whole, not a single website.

have fun everyone.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 90 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Olegil on 03-Sep-2004 07:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 71 (Johan Rönnblom):
I question the nonsense all the time, and I've never had to endure any personal attacks. Might it be more related to HOW you question it than the fact that you do?

It's funny how people here claim there's this awful lot of censorship going on at AW.net when I personally have never seen the problem. Ok, so DOOMMASTER or whatever he's calling himself lately has been struck down an awful lot, but that's for being a retard who doesn't know how to play nice, it isn't for having a different opinion than the moderators. Obvious trolling needs to be struck down, and unfortunately that might mean removing well meant but badly worded posts as well.

The type of criticism we've seen in this thread is quite typical. "everyone there thinks the AmigaOne is cheap" and so on. No we don't. But we accept that Eyetech need to earn money from the boards they sell to be able to stay afloat. It wouldn't do us much good buying boards cheap if the result is that Eyetech goes out of business. And many people (me included) DID question the pricing of the µA1s. In a month I think I'll buy one anyway. As a birthday present for myself. It's on the wish list, anyway :-)
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 91 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by brotheris on 03-Sep-2004 07:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 89 (derf):
and to the guy who called it kindergarten(sp?)

't' in german and 'd' in english.


well, havnt you realised now that all website forums are like that? and the moderators are the teachers to keep the kiddies in check

My point was that 'teachers' are kids from kindergarden with their vendetas. It's (almost) all rotten to the roots.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 92 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 03-Sep-2004 07:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 90 (Olegil):
> It's funny how people here claim there's this awful lot of censorship going on
> at AW.net when I personally have never seen the problem

http://www.flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/105680.shtml
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 93 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by ehaines on 03-Sep-2004 07:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (XraalE):
> What's the current subject over there? How G3/800Mhz outperforms a G4/1000?

This shows your ignorance and lack of intelligence quite nicely. Yep, a
so-called "G3" at 800MHz can outperform a so-called "G4" at 1000MHz quite
handily...of course, it depends on what "G3" and "G4" you are comparing. A
750GX will be faster than many of the 74xx chips, provided you aren't running
any Altivec-enabled applications (of which there are extremely few for the
Amiga so far).

I suppose you're one of those people who thought a 25MHz 68040 was half as
fast as a 50MHz 68030....
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 94 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 03-Sep-2004 07:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (brotheris):
Appears to work fine now, and there's "OrginWork" in it. Guess someone received the "message" :-)
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 95 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Hans-Joerg Frieden on 03-Sep-2004 08:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (XraalE):
> What's the current subject over there? How G3/800Mhz outperforms a G4/1000?
> Dear God. Anything to sell a board... How intelligent. How constuctive.

No, it isn't. It shows you never read it. The topic was if a 750FX/800 outperforms a 7451/800 if Altivec is not used.

So obviously you don't read it but you judge it. Doesn't do much good for credibility.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 96 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 03-Sep-2004 09:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 77 (Wayne Hunt):
> While I don't really agree with the reasons, nor the methods used in the
> initial founding of Amigaworld.net (as an official exodus from Amiga.org)

Personally, I have never made a secret of what I thought about the exodus. But that was back at a time where I was actually still hoping for some kind of united amiga community (back at a time where I actually *cared* about the Amiga, now "my morph is complete"! ;-) ). I could never understand the raged hostility against the alternative solutions that was boiling among certain people, but it annoyed me greatly. Later, these same "certain people" made this official exodus from amiga.org and ann.lu, which I, at that time, looked at as an incredible backstabbing at the core of the "united" Amiga community, the (until then) stable institutions (amiga.org and ann.lu) that had kept Amiga up during long times of chrisis. A community is formed by its people, and I have never really liked the people in the amigaworld.net community because of the above reasons, and much would have to happen before I put my digital footprint there.

But this is somewhat troublesome for me for another reason. Despite what I have said earlier through the years, I have quite recently become an A1 owner. The only reason to why I bought it was to be able to see how OS4 develops with my own eyes. This is a foolish luxery, since *I know* about its problems and *I know* that they will never be fixed, but hey, it's only money, right? ;-) If I wanted to, where can I discuss the A1? On ann? Hardly. On Amiga.org? Hardly that too. During this spring and this summer I have seen amiga.org turn into a amiga retro computing site, and ann.lu into a silent place with occasional flamefests. First the A1 people left, and in the traces of Genesi's "Pretory Chrisis" (and the actions from certain webmasters because of this), the MorphOS people kind of left too. "Retro" is mainly what is left on amiga.org, and "fights" is mainly what is left on ann.lu. This is only my humble opinion of course, and maybe you won't agree.

Anyway, I have no real need to discuss A1 things (I don't really care about it, it's not really usable at the moment anyway because of the state OS4 is in), I have no real need to discuss retro things, and I have no real need for endless fights. For me, morphos-news.de is the MorphOS version of ANN.lu, and morphzone.org is the MorphOS version of Amiga.org, because I have come to the conclusion that my interest in "Amiga" has dropped drasticly, and my interest in "MorphOS" has increased to the same amount. I look around me, and it looks like the exodus people who wanted this "apartheid" to keep the pure from the infidels seems to be getting what they want, but I don't care about that anymore.

I still visit ANN at least once a day, and amiga.org at least once a week though. But amigaworld.net? Nah, I can live without those people!
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 97 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Alan Taylor on 03-Sep-2004 09:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 95 (Hans-Joerg Frieden):
I love to pirate your software. downloaded Quake2 last night and you have done a decent port so well done, i am currently downloading OS4 pre for my Amigaone so i do not have to pay Eyetech 100$.

Thanks for supporting the Amiga.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 98 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 03-Sep-2004 09:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 97 (Alan Taylor):
> I love to pirate your software. downloaded Quake2

Sorry to disappoint you, but you can't "pirate" Quake2 by downloading it, Quake2 is GPL'd, anyone can download it.
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 99 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 03-Sep-2004 09:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (Fabio Alemagna):
Not if the GPLed sources aren't given! ;)
Amigaworld.net down : Comment 100 of 281ANN.lu
Posted by pixie on 03-Sep-2004 10:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 97 (Alan Taylor):
Will you send the money to Hyperion instead :-?
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