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[News] Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free!ANN.lu
Posted on 03-Sep-2004 09:57 GMT by takemehomegrandma103 comments
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A short news update regarding the Freescale SNDF Europe event: The list of the first 40 PPC developers who will join the SNDF Europe event and recieve complete Open Desktop Workstations (based on the Pegasos2), has now been sent to Freescale. Among those are AmigaZeux members as well as a number of DemoScene Teams. A list of the remaining 60 will be sent next week.

At 22-Aug-2004, Genesi made the following invitation public:

We would like to invite all interested PowerPC Developers to Smart Networks Developer Forum in Frankfurt on 30 September. You can attend the Tech Show in the morning and attend Workshops. In the afternoon we will have some special PegasosPPC oriented presentations, including a series of workshops on AltiVec. Lunch is included and developers who have been pre-approved and attend will be given an Open Desktop Workstation compliments of Freescale and Genesi. In exchange, developers are ask to file a monthly report on what they are doing with the machine - only basic guidelines for development will be given.

Please contact us if you are interested in developing for the platform and attending PegasosPPC Day at SNDF Europe.
(morphos-news.de, morphzone.org)

Any developer, interested in developing for any PPC OS platform, working with any project, seemed to be welcome to apply to these generous terms (look here, and here). Now the list of the first 40 people has been processed and sent to Freescale:

We submitted the list of 40 developers to Freescale today who will be hosted on 30 September at SNDF Europe in Frankfurt. Thanks to all of you who responded. We will be getting an information page up about the day's activities soon.

Next week, we will also be submitting an additional list of 60 developers who will also receive complete machines. We are very happy to announce that the AmigaZeux members will be included in this group, as well as a number of DemoScene Teams.

A big thanks to Freescale for their support on this developer program. In addition to the 100 machines going to developers in September, 75 more are being used to support the initial PegasosPPC pilot projects.
(http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=2&topic_id=2702&post_id=22961&viewmode=thread&order=0#22961)

Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 1 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma (Registered user) on 03-Sep-2004 08:04 GMT
I think this was a very generous offer from Freescale, and I hope that many of you took this unique chance. I don't know if it's too late to submit your interest now, though ...
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 2 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re (Registered user) on 03-Sep-2004 08:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (takemehomegrandma):
So Freescale is financing this? I tought it was Genesi.
Anyways, good luck with the operation :P
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 3 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Crumb // AAT (Registered user) on 03-Sep-2004 10:09 GMT
Don't forget to add to the XPostFacto author to that list... Running MacOS X natively would be nice :-D
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 4 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (213.226.84.50) on 03-Sep-2004 10:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Crumb // AAT):
:-O

:-D
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 5 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (213.226.84.50) on 03-Sep-2004 10:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Amon_Re):
This would come from some of the Peg systems that Freescale bought from Genesi.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 6 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (213.226.84.50) on 03-Sep-2004 10:31 GMT
I wonder if the Friedens are coming? Heck, interesting discussions and seminars, free lunch and dinner, and a present to take home! ;-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 7 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.198) on 03-Sep-2004 11:12 GMT
Poor Freescale, I they only knew...
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 8 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 (193.167.144.30) on 03-Sep-2004 11:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Sammy Nordström):
>Poor Freescale, I they only knew...

Did they promise you a free ODW or...? :-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 9 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Leif (81.224.161.149) on 03-Sep-2004 11:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Sammy Nordström):
"exciting" :)

PS. SYF Spammy
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 10 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna (Registered user) on 03-Sep-2004 12:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Sammy Nordström):
> Poor Freescale, I they only knew...

...what? :-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 11 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.198) on 03-Sep-2004 12:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Fabio Alemagna):
...what you obviously don't. :-P

Seriously, there's been enough flamewars about these issues already and I doubt very much that you wouldn't already know my opinion about everything related to Genesi.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 12 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 (193.167.144.30) on 03-Sep-2004 12:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Sammy Nordström):
So, would the "complete" comment then be:

"Poor Freescale, If they only knew <snip> my opinion about everything related to Genesi." ?

:-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 13 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna (Registered user) on 03-Sep-2004 12:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Sammy Nordström):
> Seriously, there's been enough flamewars about these issues already

Then why are you igniting another one? :-)

> and I doubt very much that you wouldn't already know my opinion about everything
> related to Genesi.

Probably, but then why would Freescale care about your opinions? :-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 14 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (213.226.84.50) on 03-Sep-2004 12:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Sammy Nordström):
Well thanks for your constructive comments in this thread! Great!

Freescale has been doing business with Genesi a lot the last half year, Poor Sammy, I he only knew...
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 15 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Kill Sammy (67.15.54.16) on 03-Sep-2004 12:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Jupp3):
Poor ANN.lu visitors, if they only knew about everything related to
kill Samface...

Samface is the secret son of Fleecy! It's part of the new generation of FUD spreaders!

GENSEI IS TEH EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 16 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.200) on 03-Sep-2004 13:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Fabio Alemagna):
>> Seriously, there's been enough flamewars about these issues already
>
>Then why are you igniting another one? :-)

No, you tried to ignite a flamewar by asking the seemingly innocent question "why?" like you wouldn't already know why and what the effects would be if I told you. Such behavior in an online forum is the very definition of trolling, you know.

>> and I doubt very much that you wouldn't already know my opinion about
>> everything related to Genesi.
>
>Probably, but then why would Freescale care about your opinions? :-)

They probably don't, which is why I feel sorry for them.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 17 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna (Registered user) on 03-Sep-2004 13:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Sammy Nordström):
@everyone
Sorry, this is just too entertaining! :-)

@samface
> >> Seriously, there's been enough flamewars about these issues already
> >
> >Then why are you igniting another one? :-)

> No, you tried to ignite a flamewar by asking the seemingly innocent question
> "why?"

I asked "what", not "why" :-) And, anyway, "seemingly innocent"? Are you implying it wasn't really innocent? Are you stating that as a matter of facts? How could you possibly know that for sure, are you living in my head? Oh damn, get out of here!!

> like you wouldn't already know why and what the effects would be if I told
> you. Such behavior in an online forum is the very definition of trolling, you
> know.

Now, I dare you, show me the definition of trolling taken from an official dictionary. If you cannot do that, I must believe yours is just an opinion and not a fact, so why should I care about your opinions? :-)

> > Probably, but then why would Freescale care about your opinions? :-)
>
> They probably don't, which is why I feel sorry for them.

And why should they care?
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 18 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini (Registered user) on 03-Sep-2004 13:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Sammy Nordström):
Don't you have something else to do instead of spining this news as something negative ? Get a life Sammy.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 19 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.198) on 03-Sep-2004 13:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Fabio Alemagna):
>Are you implying it wasn't really innocent?

Are you implying that you don't already know my stance on Genesi and related issues?

>Now, I dare you, show me the definition of trolling taken from an official
>dictionary. If you cannot do that, I must believe yours is just an opinion and
>not a fact, so why should I care about your opinions? :-)

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TrollDefinition

>And why should they care?

You already know why I think they should care, troll.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 20 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (213.226.84.50) on 03-Sep-2004 13:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Christophe Decanini):
I think your joke of putting a 5 comments limit on Sammy, Fabio and Amon is worth considering for real! ;-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 21 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna (Registered user) on 03-Sep-2004 13:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Sammy Nordström):
>>Are you implying it wasn't really innocent?
>
> Are you implying that you don't already know my stance on Genesi and related
> issues?

Hey ho, that's not an answer to my question, you answer first!

> >Now, I dare you, show me the definition of trolling taken from an official
> >dictionary. If you cannot do that, I must believe yours is just an opinion
> >and not a fact, so why should I care about your opinions? :-)
>
> http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TrollDefinition

What letters of official didn't pass trough your screen?

And, anyway, a quote from that site:

If you find yourself patiently explaining, at length and in great detail, some obscure point to someone who isn't even being polite to you, then you are probably being trolled.

I must say I do find myself doing all that with you :-)


> > And why should they care?
>
> You already know why I think they should care, troll.

No, I don't, please elaborate <insert your favourite slandering word here>.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 22 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.198) on 03-Sep-2004 13:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Christophe Decanini):
For me, it is negative. Furthermore, I have a job, a girlfriend and a hobby. If that is not living a life, then what is?
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 23 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.198) on 03-Sep-2004 13:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Fabio Alemagna):
>I must say I do find myself doing all that with you :-)

Likewise.

>No, I don't, please elaborate

No, because like you already know, that would start yet another flamewar about things that has already been discussed over and over again. Drop it.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 24 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (213.226.84.50) on 03-Sep-2004 13:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Sammy Nordström):
Why not take your girlfriend out then? Like now? ;-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 25 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.198) on 03-Sep-2004 13:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Anonymous):
Nah, she's at home sleeping right now while I'm still at work. Besides, she's on a diet (not because she needs to, but you know how they are) that prevents her from eating out as well as drinking. :-(

How about you, why are you not out on a date or something?
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 26 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna (Registered user) on 03-Sep-2004 13:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Sammy Nordström):
Jesus, talk about being offtopic! =:O
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 27 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (213.226.84.50) on 03-Sep-2004 13:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Sammy Nordström):
"Nah, she's at home sleeping right now while I'm still at work."

Then how about doing a little of that working? ;-)

"How about you, why are you not out on a date or something?"

Someones gotta guard the beer!
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 28 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (80.58.2.236) on 03-Sep-2004 13:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Sammy Nordström):
People don't worry your life. Please stop being a liar.

I vote for ban to Samface IP and nickname, realname...
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 29 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.199) on 03-Sep-2004 14:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Anonymous):
I vote for ban of Anonymous posters.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 30 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.199) on 03-Sep-2004 14:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Anonymous):
>Then how about doing a little of that working? ;-)

Ever heard of multi-tasking?
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 31 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by GPL POLICE (80.202.195.81) on 03-Sep-2004 14:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Sammy Nordström):
seriously guys, this is the best news i have heard in a long time.

rock on scener's ...

anyway i would like to know which sceners got the machines.

i know of iris atleast.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 32 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (213.226.84.50) on 03-Sep-2004 14:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Sammy Nordström):
Ah, so YOU ARE a woman, thats what I suspected! :-)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 33 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (213.226.84.50) on 03-Sep-2004 14:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (GPL POLICE):
"anyway i would like to know which sceners got the machines."

And who applied would also be interesting to know! Perhaps all who applied got one? I doubt that!
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 34 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.199) on 03-Sep-2004 14:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Anonymous):
No, and I'm not lesbian either. :-P
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 35 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by GPL POLICE (80.202.195.81) on 03-Sep-2004 14:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Anonymous):
why? , do you really think there is over 100 of productive sceners in the amiga scene? , ok keep dreaming :-)

and yes i know its not only demo sceners but also amigazeux and others(?)....

anyway rock on! and hopefully there will become an respectable scene sometime...
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 36 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini (Registered user) on 03-Sep-2004 14:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Sammy Nordström):
I vote for a ban of both for abusing ANN ...
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 37 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.199) on 03-Sep-2004 14:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Christophe Decanini):
Oh please, you're starting to sound like old people complaining at too much violance on TV... Who's forcing you to watch, anyway?

The freedom for anyone to comment in here has it's price and if you don't like it, I'll be the first to support you in trying to convince Christian Kemp that ANN.lu needs user registration requirements.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 38 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Stefan Blixth (81.228.152.9) on 03-Sep-2004 14:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Sammy Nordström):
What about NOT particiating in threads that doesn't interest you ?
Wouldn't that be a good solution to start with ?

This would be a great relief to be able to make on topic-conversations instead of this usual BS to hack the thread apart because it's not suits yourself.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 39 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (80.58.2.236) on 03-Sep-2004 14:52 GMT
Uhm, maybe we will have ANR3 native for MorphOS? ;)
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 40 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.198) on 03-Sep-2004 14:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (Stefan Blixth):
>What about NOT particiating in threads that doesn't interest you ?

I don't post if it's not because the topic is of interest to me. Disapproving of something does not equal not beeing interested. I mean, if I wouldn't be interested, I wouldn't have had an opinion about it to begin with.

Or are you saying that noone should be allowed to post unless we agree?
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 41 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Christoph Gutjahr (Registered user) on 03-Sep-2004 15:04 GMT
>> Oh please, you're starting to sound like old people complaining at too much
>> violance on TV... Who's forcing you to watch, anyway?

*You* are forcing people to search for interesting postings between all the "this is not what I claimed that you said about me saying" babble from you and Fabio.

That's annoying.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 42 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.198) on 03-Sep-2004 15:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Christoph Gutjahr):
Try viewing the posts in listed mode and don't click on posts with my name. Simple, isn't it?
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 43 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by pixie (82.154.46.53) on 03-Sep-2004 15:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Sammy Nordström):
Well... I'm am! I loooove womens! ;)
If everyone is OT, why can't we... :D
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 44 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini (Registered user) on 03-Sep-2004 15:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Sammy Nordström):
I have to watch as much as possible (even if not always possible).
If the posts have to be allowed only to registered users it means that we can also remove registration when we think someone is abusing the site.
I would consider myself as abusing the sites if I would post as much as you (and a few others) do.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 45 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini (Registered user) on 03-Sep-2004 15:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Christoph Gutjahr):
I'm glad you second that.
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 46 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström (131.116.254.197) on 03-Sep-2004 15:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (pixie):
>Well... I'm am! I loooove womens! ;)

There is only one woman that I love. ;-)

>If everyone is OT, why can't we... :D

While these kind of silly crack-ups are most oftenly very OT, what's the harm?
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 47 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (213.226.84.50) on 03-Sep-2004 15:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Sammy Nordström):
Everyone is welcome to post in all threads that interests them. But what's wrong about following the topic?

The topic of this thread is actually quite interesting. ONE HUNDRED PEGASOS MACHINES (not bare motherboards) are being provided by FREESCALE to all kinds of interested developers! I mean - WOW! 100 of them! For free! We have not seen anything similar alike this -- EVER!

We could be discussing about the impact of this obvious support from Freescale, their cooperation with Genesi, what this means for the future of the Pegasos (and MorphOS), and what impact the Pegasos may do among other PPC developers that will attend to the SNDF thingy ...

... OR we could discuss YOUR opinion about Genesi, meta discussions about flamewars, which one is more right about you or Fabio, or similar non-topic things, until the whole thread is out of bounds and there is no longer any meaning to post on topic anymore because no one will ever manage to follow it straight anyway!
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 48 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by i'm not here (165.76.216.91) on 03-Sep-2004 15:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Kill Sammy):
yesh pefrectly

GENSEI IS TEH EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 49 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by i'm not here (165.76.216.91) on 03-Sep-2004 15:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (i'm not here):
and morphos is "une crotte de nez"

mort-fosse
Freescale provides complete ODW machines to 100 PPC developers for free! : Comment 50 of 103ANN.lu
Posted by JKD (205.158.116.231) on 03-Sep-2004 15:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Anonymous):
Amen!

If people can't handle that Genesi are in the stages of picking themselves up from the Thendic knockdown and have a business plan to actually execute, which involves real partners, real hardware etc. then that's a personal problem/defect.

This is excellent news for future PPC development and as a bonus (for me) some MorphOS'ians get to benefit :-D

Of course, anyone is free to comment on whether or not they think a Linux/PPC based plan would be successful against the might of x86 but that's a different subject.

Steve
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