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[News] E3B and individual Computers join forcesANN.lu
Posted on 25-Sep-2004 16:57 GMT by Jens Schönfeld12 comments
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E3B and individual Computers have a long standing friendship reaching back to the year 2001 when E3B was founded. E3B and individual Computers have a long standing friendship reaching back to the year 2001 when E3B was founded.

When the USB-controller "SUBWAY" hit the market, the two companies worked together to ensure optimal cross-vendor functionality for a better customer experience. Resources and materials were shared for the manufacturing process.

Over time the cooperation was extended. Due to the great demand, E3B started another production run of the "SUBWAY". This production brings the two companies even closer together when synergy effects of a joint PCB production are used to keep prices low while improving the quality. It were the good direct contacts of individual Computers to the chip manufacturer Transdimension (USA) that made the continuation of the SUBWAY possible.

Both sides are looking forward to further cooperations and are currently evaluating possibilities for joint developments.
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Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 25-Sep-2004 16:28 GMT
So... does this mean another production run of the SUBWAY? :)
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Posted by Anonymous on 25-Sep-2004 19:22 GMT
Nice move ;-) Less competition and higher prices.
E3B and individual Computers join forces : Comment 3 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 25-Sep-2004 19:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
What competition? Did they ever have competing products?
E3B and individual Computers join forces : Comment 4 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Jens Schönfeld on 25-Sep-2004 20:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
E3B and individual Computers never had competing products, so there's no reason to thing that we're jacking up prices. It's exactly the opposite, read the news article: We're joining forces to buy higher quantities, which keeps prices as low as they were.

Funny how people in the Amiga market are always trying to find the negative aspect, although there is none.

Jens Schönfeld
E3B and individual Computers join forces : Comment 5 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Sep-2004 21:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Jens Schönfeld):
> Funny how people in the Amiga market are always trying to find the negative aspect, although there is none.

Ironically, with this staement, you do the same ;)
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Posted by Dan on 26-Sep-2004 09:21 GMT
Great!!!
I was just looking for a Subway the other week, but couldn´t find it anywhere, was going to max out my A1200-060
E3B and individual Computers join forces : Comment 7 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Michael Böhmer on 26-Sep-2004 11:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Kolbjørn Barmen):
> So... does this mean another production run of the SUBWAY? :)

Exactly. Stay tuned :)
As usual E3B will announce the availability on the news pages if the boards have passed production and burnin test successfully.

Michael
E3B and individual Computers join forces : Comment 8 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by coldfire on 26-Sep-2004 16:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):
>>Funny how people in the Amiga market are always trying to find the negative
>>aspect, although there is none.

>Ironically, with this staement, you do the same ;)

Actually he's finding a negative aspect where there IS one.

coldfire
E3B and individual Computers join forces : Comment 9 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Jaeson Koszarsky on 26-Sep-2004 17:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Kolbjørn Barmen):
How about a 100mbit or gigabit ethernet option?

Jaeson K.
E3B and individual Computers join forces : Comment 10 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Sep-2004 20:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Jaeson Koszarsky):
> How about a 100mbit or gigabit ethernet option?

There is no sense in such option.
Subway is connected to the clock port and everything runs here really very slow.

Subway's speed limit in A1200/060 is about 300 kB/s (2.4 Mbps). It means Subway reaches 20% of the USB1.1 speed (12 Mbps). This is at most 0.24% of the gigabit ethernet speed and 2.4% of 100Mbit ethernet.
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Posted by Jaeson Koszarsky on 27-Sep-2004 10:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
Maybe 100mbit & gigabit don't make sense for subway but what about an upgraded Algor/Norway then with faster USB too?

Jaeson K.
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Posted by Seehund on 27-Sep-2004 13:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
Do I remember incorrectly when I think that the speed of an Ethernet network is determined by the slowest connected device? I.e., just one connected device that's only capable of 10 Mbps would make a gigabit network segment run at 10 Mbps.

In that case it would make sense to offer a 100 Mbps version of the Subway, even if the actual throughput can't take advantage of the increased frequency.

I would guess that a gigabit option would be prohibitively expensive though, and I suppose gigabit networks aren't all that common where you might find an Amiga included.
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